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                     Win d's Short Sum chart Pick 4


  0        1        2        3       4        5        6        7        8        9
                 
0127  0128  0129  0139  0149   0159  0123  0124  0125  0126 H
0136  0137  0138  0148  0158   0168  0169  0179  0134  0135 
0145  0146  0147  0157  0167  0249  0178  0269  0189  0234 
0235  0236  0156  0238  0239   0258  0259  0278  0279  0289
1234  0245  0237  0247  0248  0267  0268  0359  0369  0379
0389  1235  0246  0256  0257  0348  0349  0368  0378  0469
0479  0489  0345  0346  0347  0357  0358  0458  0459  0478
0569  0579  1236  1237  0356  0456  0367  0467  0468  0568
0578  0678  1245  1246  1238  1239  0457  1259  0567  1279
1289  1389  0589  1345  1247  1248  1249  1268  1269  1369     
1379  1479  0679  0689  1256  1257  1258  1349  1278  1378   
1469  1569  1489  1589  1346   1347  1267  1358  1359  1459   
1478  1578  1579  1679  2345   1356  1348  1367  1368  1468   
1568  2379  1678  2489  0789   2346  1357  1457  1458  1567   
2369  2469  2389  2579  1689   1789  1456  2348  1467  2359
2378  2478  2479  2678  2589   2689  2347  2357  2349  2368
2459  2568  2569  3479  2679  3589  2356  2456  2358  2458
2468  3459  2578  3569  3489  3679  2789  3789  2367  2467
2567  3468  3469  3578  3579  4579  3689  4689  2457  3457
3458  3567  3478  4568  3678  4678  4589  5679  3456  5789
3467            3568            4569            4679         4789 
6789            4567            4578            5678          5689 

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

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     Posting charts with this new digital format is still hard to get good results. It should be clear enough to work with at any rate.

     This is for singles numbers only. Each column should hit around 10% of the time a single hits. Singles hit about 50% of the time in Pick 4 unlike the 27% in P3. 

      You could number or letter the regular horizontal lines. The balanced #20  full or complete  Horizontal lines of this chart and use those to anticipate hits from those groups too. I just ignore the odd numbers at the bottom. Close enough for plenty hits ...believe me. 

    Think "Bingo" or Longitude and Latitude. You could also cut up the chart into Quarters or turn it on its side using different colors. The idea is the same.

    Nothing like that will change the basic idea here ...it would be an individual preference of shape and colors. Although.... staying on the same page would make it better for most folks and mutual discussion or alerts.  

     

     

    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                           Win d    

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      The Horizontal lines should hit around 5% of the time a single hits as opposed to the Vertical Sums lines at !0%.

       Single should hit about 183 times a year on a 365 days game. Which means each of the vertical Sum lines up there will receive about 18 hits per yr.

       The 20 regular... 10 numbered horizontal lines should average around 9 hits across each.  

       Focus on the 3 oldest Sums .... they can't hide 3 sums very long at all. Especially Short Sums.  

       

       

      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                             Win d    

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        WIN D

        That's what I was thinking...the 3 oldest sums cannot hide very long at all...especially considering the fact that there are so many repeaters...3 old sums that are adjacent to numbers that hit that are even off my one short-sum is the difference between winning and losing.

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          WIN D

          With roughly 20 numbers in each column, you are looking at about 9 hits per year, or 0.75 hits per month, correct?

          Now, with 3 sums out, you should get approx. 2.25 hits per month. So grouping 3 short sums together is probably a good way of approaching it? That would also leave us with 120 different groupings of short sums that could be "watched".

          Here's a question for you...when analyzing what to play in this situation, would you look for the three Short Sums that are out the LONGEST and play those at that time? With singles, you are looking at anywhere between 60 & 66 numbers. With all encompassed, you are looking at between 210-219 numbers, which really isn't bad considering your returns.

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            WIN D

            With roughly 20 numbers in each column, you are looking at about 9 hits per year, or 0.75 hits per month, correct?

            Now, with 3 sums out, you should get approx. 2.25 hits per month. So grouping 3 short sums together is probably a good way of approaching it? That would also leave us with 120 different groupings of short sums that could be "watched".

            Here's a question for you...when analyzing what to play in this situation, would you look for the three Short Sums that are out the LONGEST and play those at that time? With singles, you are looking at anywhere between 60 & 66 numbers. With all encompassed, you are looking at between 210-219 numbers, which really isn't bad considering your returns.

            Had to go back and think this a little bit. If we are looking at the vertical sums rows of 20 to 22 numbers each. I believe the expected hit rate will be about 18 hits per Sum ....per year.

             Now the horizontal is only about half of that per year... istead of 20 to 22 down ..... we have 10 straight across so thats gonna be around 9 hits per year per horizontal line.

              Pick 3 singles are gonna have 262 hit days per year. P-4 is only gonna have 183 hit days per year..... but it pays about 62% higher than p-3.  Playing only 3 of 10 sums would be winning 1/3rd. of the 183 singles hit days.    

                Still..... if you were just to sit on 3 short sums in Pick  3 ........thats  $9 bucks a draw win ....37.50  each time. If you played everyday no matter what...blind .... then your hit window would be about 88 days a year.

               

                P-4 ....playing the 3 out sums would be approx 16.50 per draw....but win 100 bucks.  Your hit window opportunity would be about 60  days per year.  

             

             

            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                   Win d    

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              Interesting...in ILLINOIS EVENING, the Sums 0 4 & 8 are out and both are double their average.

              Sum 0 out 17 draws; average = 10

              Sum 4 out 22 draws; average = 10

              Sum 8 out 36 draws; average = 11.35

              So, these numbers should hit SOON:

              0125, 0127, 0134, 0136, 0145, 0149, 0158, 0167, 0189, 0235, 0239, 0248, 0257, 0279, 0347, 0356, 0369, 0378, 0389, 0459, 0468, 0479, 0567, 0569, 0578, 0789, 1234, 1238, 1247, 1256, 1269, 1278, 1289, 1346, 1359, 1368, 1379, 1458, 1467, 1469, 1478, 1568, 1689, 2345, 2349, 2358, 2367, 2369, 2378, 2457, 2459, 2468, 2567, 2589, 2679, 3456, 3458, 3467, 3489, 3579, 3678, 4569, 4578, 4789, 5689, 6789
              0013, 0017, 0019, 0026, 0028, 0035, 0037, 0046, 0059, 0068, 1102, 1106, 1108, 1124, 1126, 1135, 1139, 1148, 1157, 1179, 2204, 2206, 2213, 2215, 2219, 2237, 2246, 2259, 2268, 2279, 3302, 3304, 3308, 3317, 3326, 3348, 3357, 3359, 3368, 4402, 4406, 4415, 4419, 4428, 4437, 4439, 4457, 4479, 5504, 5508, 5513, 5517, 5519, 5526, 5528, 5537, 5546, 5568, 6602, 6608, 6615, 6617, 6624, 6635, 6639, 6648, 6657, 6679, 7704, 7706, 7713, 7715, 7719, 7724, 7728, 7746, 7759, 7768, 8802, 8804, 8813, 8817, 8826, 8835, 8839, 8857, 8859, 9902, 9906, 9915, 9924, 9928, 9937, 9946, 9948, 9957
              0004, 0008, 1115, 1117, 2224, 2228, 3331, 3335, 3339, 4442, 4446, 4448, 5553, 5559, 6660, 6662, 7773, 7779, 8880, 8884, 8886, 9991, 9993, 9997
              0022, 0044, 0055, 0077, 0099, 1133, 1144, 1166, 1188, 1199, 2233, 2255, 2277, 2288, 3344, 3366, 3377, 3399, 4455, 4466, 4488, 5577, 5599, 6688, 6699, 7788, 8899
              0000, 1111, 2222, 5555, 6666, 7777

              Singles = 0125, 0127, 0134, 0136, 0145, 0149, 0158, 0167, 0189, 0235, 0239, 0248, 0257, 0279, 0347, 0356, 0369, 0378, 0389, 0459, 0468, 0479, 0567, 0569, 0578, 0789, 1234, 1238, 1247, 1256, 1269, 1278, 1289, 1346, 1359, 1368, 1379, 1458, 1467, 1469, 1478, 1568, 1689, 2345, 2349, 2358, 2367, 2369, 2378, 2457, 2459, 2468, 2567, 2589, 2679, 3456, 3458, 3467, 3489, 3579, 3678, 4569, 4578, 4789, 5689, 6789

              Let's see what happens here.

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                Interesting...in ILLINOIS EVENING, the Sums 0 4 & 8 are out and both are double their average.

                Sum 0 out 17 draws; average = 10

                Sum 4 out 22 draws; average = 10

                Sum 8 out 36 draws; average = 11.35

                So, these numbers should hit SOON:

                0125, 0127, 0134, 0136, 0145, 0149, 0158, 0167, 0189, 0235, 0239, 0248, 0257, 0279, 0347, 0356, 0369, 0378, 0389, 0459, 0468, 0479, 0567, 0569, 0578, 0789, 1234, 1238, 1247, 1256, 1269, 1278, 1289, 1346, 1359, 1368, 1379, 1458, 1467, 1469, 1478, 1568, 1689, 2345, 2349, 2358, 2367, 2369, 2378, 2457, 2459, 2468, 2567, 2589, 2679, 3456, 3458, 3467, 3489, 3579, 3678, 4569, 4578, 4789, 5689, 6789
                0013, 0017, 0019, 0026, 0028, 0035, 0037, 0046, 0059, 0068, 1102, 1106, 1108, 1124, 1126, 1135, 1139, 1148, 1157, 1179, 2204, 2206, 2213, 2215, 2219, 2237, 2246, 2259, 2268, 2279, 3302, 3304, 3308, 3317, 3326, 3348, 3357, 3359, 3368, 4402, 4406, 4415, 4419, 4428, 4437, 4439, 4457, 4479, 5504, 5508, 5513, 5517, 5519, 5526, 5528, 5537, 5546, 5568, 6602, 6608, 6615, 6617, 6624, 6635, 6639, 6648, 6657, 6679, 7704, 7706, 7713, 7715, 7719, 7724, 7728, 7746, 7759, 7768, 8802, 8804, 8813, 8817, 8826, 8835, 8839, 8857, 8859, 9902, 9906, 9915, 9924, 9928, 9937, 9946, 9948, 9957
                0004, 0008, 1115, 1117, 2224, 2228, 3331, 3335, 3339, 4442, 4446, 4448, 5553, 5559, 6660, 6662, 7773, 7779, 8880, 8884, 8886, 9991, 9993, 9997
                0022, 0044, 0055, 0077, 0099, 1133, 1144, 1166, 1188, 1199, 2233, 2255, 2277, 2288, 3344, 3366, 3377, 3399, 4455, 4466, 4488, 5577, 5599, 6688, 6699, 7788, 8899
                0000, 1111, 2222, 5555, 6666, 7777

                Singles = 0125, 0127, 0134, 0136, 0145, 0149, 0158, 0167, 0189, 0235, 0239, 0248, 0257, 0279, 0347, 0356, 0369, 0378, 0389, 0459, 0468, 0479, 0567, 0569, 0578, 0789, 1234, 1238, 1247, 1256, 1269, 1278, 1289, 1346, 1359, 1368, 1379, 1458, 1467, 1469, 1478, 1568, 1689, 2345, 2349, 2358, 2367, 2369, 2378, 2457, 2459, 2468, 2567, 2589, 2679, 3456, 3458, 3467, 3489, 3579, 3678, 4569, 4578, 4789, 5689, 6789

                Let's see what happens here.

                Fun Keith. Check out the recent stack as well. We could cut many of those down to size if we subtracted all the digit #4 numbers from the pile because they already hit 4 days in a row. Playing mostly highs would be another way to cull a few perhaps..  or at least ones with Mosly ODD looks good too.  Filter ourselves into the ground. LOL  

                 Check out all the lows in 4th. postion.

                 

                Sun, Aug 27, 20064-3-8-0
                Sat, Aug 26, 20064-4-5-0
                Fri, Aug 25, 20064-5-3-0
                Thu, Aug 24, 20068-4-6-3
                Wed, Aug 23, 20061-6-3-2
                Tue, Aug 22, 20061-2-7-9
                Mon, Aug 21, 20068-3-3-7
                Sun, Aug 20, 20067-6-6-8
                Sat, Aug 19, 20066-5-9-3
                Fri, Aug 18, 20069-8-0-9

                 

                 

                The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                       Win d    

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                  Yeah...I would be a little nervous cutting some of those out...but at the very least maybe work it down to the singles only.

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                    Yeah...I would be a little nervous cutting some of those out...but at the very least maybe work it down to the singles only.

                    It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out!

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                      Chaz, Raven

                      I would be inclined to take a look at the 3 longest sums out in each draw and see how quickly they turn up and what their classification is (i.e., single, double, etc). I just bombed a P-4 thing on my own thinking it was the grail...but I ran the progression wrong, so the results didn't come out the way I planned, so back to the drawing board on P-4.

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                         Here is the recent stack. Looking at first 3 positions only for just a second. No Zero,,,      0,,,,9,,, 2 Key three out digits. (1st. 3 pos.)

                         The Sums 0,,,4 and 8 are almost here.  Only 66 singles to look at right? Its a 50/50 chance it will show with a single under one of those due sums.  

                         Maybe go back and filter out the most recent single hits under those due sums a bit.  

                         

                        Mon, Aug 28, 20061-3-8-  7
                        Sun, Aug 27, 20064-3-8-  0
                        Sat, Aug 26, 20064-4-5-  0
                        Fri, Aug 25, 20064-5-3-  0
                        Thu, Aug 24, 20068-4-6-  3
                        Wed, Aug 23, 20061-6-3-  2
                        Tue, Aug 22, 20061-2-7-  9
                        Mon, Aug 21, 20068-3-3-  7
                        Sun, Aug 20, 20067-6-6-  8
                        Sat, Aug 19, 20066-5-9-  3

                         

                         

                        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                               Win d    

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                          I wonder how long out these suckers can go? Here is a progression for it:

                           

                          Draw#sBet/UnitUnitsTotal BetIf LossIf Win
                          166 $66 1 $66 ($66)$309
                          266 $66 1 $66 ($132)$243
                          366 $66 1 $66 ($198)$177
                          466 $66 1 $66 ($264)$111
                          566 $66 1 $66 ($330)$45
                          666 $66 2 $132 ($462)$288
                          766 $66 2 $132 ($594)$156
                          866 $66 2 $132 ($726)$24
                          966 $66 3 $198 ($924)$201
                          1066 $66 3 $198 ($1,122)$3
                          1166 $66 4 $264 ($1,386)$114
                          1266 $66 5 $330 ($1,716)$159
                          1366 $66 6 $396 ($2,112)$138
                          1466 $66 7 $462 ($2,574)$51
                          1566 $66 9 $594 ($3,168)$207
                          1666 $66 11 $726 ($3,894)$231
                          1766 $66 13 $858 ($4,752)$123
                          1866 $66 16 $1,056 ($5,808)$192
                          1966 $66 19 $1,254 ($7,062)$63
                          2066 $66 23 $1,518 ($8,580)$45

                           

                          If you could win before Draw 10, you are looking pretty good.

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                            Otherwise, if you played all 219 numbers, it would have to show soon before losing your arse...

                             

                            DrawSGL #sBet/UnitUnitsSGL BetDBL #sBet/UnitUnitsDBL BetDBLDBL #sBet/UnitUnitsDBLDBL BetTPL #sBet/UnitUnitsTPL BetQUAD #sBet/UnitUnitsQUAD BetIf LossSGL WinDBL WinDBLDBL WinTPL WinQUAD Win
                            166$66.00 1$66.00 96$96.00 1$96.00 27$27.00 1$27.00 24$24.00 1$24.00 6$6.00 1$6.00 ($219.00)$156.00 $531.00 $1,281.00 $2,031.00 $8,781.00
                            266$66.00 2$132.00 96$96.00 1$96.00 27 $27.00 1$27.00 24 $24.00 1 $24.00 6 $6.00 1 $6.00 ($504.00)$246.00 $246.00 $996.00 $1,746.00 $8,496.00
                            366$66.00 3$198.00 96$96.00 2$192.00 27 $27.00 1 $27.00 24 $24.00 1 $24.00 6 $6.00 1 $6.00 ($951.00)$174.00 $549.00 $549.00 $1,299.00 $8,049.00
                            466$66.00 4$264.00 96$96.00 2$192.00 27 $27.00 1 $27.00 24 $24.00 1 $24.00 6 $6.00 1 $6.00 ($1,464.00)$36.00 $36.00 $36.00 $786.00 $7,536.00
                            566$66.00 6$396.00 96$96.00 3$288.00 27 $27.00 2 $54.00 24 $24.00 1 $24.00 6 $6.00 1 $6.00 ($2,232.00)$18.00 $18.00 $768.00 $18.00 $6,768.00
                            666$66.00 10$660.00 96$96.00 5$480.00 27 $27.00 3 $81.00 24 $24.00 2 $48.00 6 $6.00 1 $6.00 ($3,507.00)$243.00 $243.00 $993.00 $993.00 $5,493.00
                            766$66.00 15$990.00 96$96.00 8$768.00 27 $27.00 4 $108.00 24 $24.00 3 $72.00 6 $6.00 1 $6.00 ($5,451.00)$174.00 $549.00 $549.00 $1,299.00 $3,549.00
                            866$66.00 22$1,452.00 96$96.00 11$1,056.00 27 $27.00 6 $162.00 24 $24.00 4 $96.00 6 $6.00 1 $6.00 ($8,223.00)$27.00 $27.00 $777.00 $777.00 $777.00

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                              0         1        2        3       4          5        6        7        8        9
                                               
                              0127  0128  0129  0139  0149   0159  0123  0124  0125  0126 H
                              0136  0137  0138  0148  0158   0168  0169  0179  0134  0135 
                              0145  0146  0147  0157  0167   0249  0178  0269  0189  0234 
                              0235  0236  0156  0238  0239    0258  0259  0278  0279  0289
                              1234  0245  0237  0247  0248    0267  0268  0359  0369  0379
                              0389  1235  0246  0256  0257   0348  0349  0368  0378  0469
                              0479  0489  0345  0346  0347   0357  0358  0458  0459  0478
                              0569  0579  1236  1237  0356   0456  0367  0467  0468  0568
                              0578  0678  1245  1246  1238   1239  0457  1259  0567  1279
                              1289  1389  0589  1345  1247    1248  1249  1268  1269  1369 

                              ...............................................      ..............................................
                              1379  1479  0679  0689  1256   1257  1258  1349  1278  1378   
                              1469  1569  1489  1589  1346    1347  1267  1358  1359  1459   
                              1478  1578  1579  1679  2345   1356  1348  1367  1368  1468   
                              1568 
                              2379  1678  2489  0789    2346  1357  1457  1458  1567   
                              2369  2469  2389  2579  1689    1781456  2348  1467  2359
                              2378  2478  2479  2678  2589   2689  2347  2357  2349  2368
                              2459  2568  2569  3479  2679    3589  2356  2456  2358  2458
                              2468  3459  2578  3569  3489    3679  2789  3789  2367  2467
                              2567  3468  3469  3578  3579    4579  3689  4689  2457  3457
                              3458  3567  3478  4568  3678    4678  4589  5679  3456  5789

                              ................................................    ...............................................
                              3467            3568            4569              4679            4789 
                              6789            4567            4578              5678          5689

                               

                               

                              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                     Win d