Is There A Profitable Pick 3 Strategy?

Reply #92

WSN1 — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:10:26 GMT

Tntea, I got 4 more replies from you and a link with another link on the Vtracs topic that included about 12 or 13 pages of information and I have followed your instruction by reading pages of pages on your blog and other links and all I get are posts of combinations. I am requesting details on profitable pick3 strategies, not combinations. if you cannot provide that information that's ok. I will continue my fact finding elsewhere. If you like, I will send you a PM, however, I would be requestin... [ More ]

Reply #91

tntea — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:35:12 GMT

I understand.. One must find something that works for them.. These work for me.

Just today I did fairly well using the methods. Made more playing #s than most of my friends make in a week working.. It is loads of fun..

Subject closed on this end.. Good luck..

Reply #90

tntea — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:32:34 GMT

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/132639/2

Reply #89

tntea — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:27:07 GMT

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Thu, Dec 28,... [ More ]

Reply #88

tntea — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:20:38 GMT

You can find it through the search too.

I see you are from TX.. That state is known for repeats repeats repeats. The Old system works good there.. You can use it to tell which numbers will repeat..

shhhhhh don't tell anyone in TX..

Reply #87

WSN1 — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:38:59 GMT

Tntea, I went through your blog, month by month pages and saw only v-tracs outputs and vtracs, definitions which, Ive understood for several years. Then I went to your lesson 101, and just got exhausted going through most of those 18 pgs of everyone trying to setup there vtracs tables. Imma have to pass on your method, after about 1 hr of searching, I found nothing new for me. And I respect that you do not feel comfortable going in detail outside of your blog and unfortuately that wont help me

Reply #86

cps10 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:27:34 GMT

Well, it was progression-based, remember. I don't have the figures right in front of me, but that's what the loss would have been if it had (EEO) not drawn. But since it won, with the progressive wagering, the profits were $325 after that $2375 outlay.

Reply #85

WSN1 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:23:10 GMT

Yep, Until I ran across LotSoft recently, there was nothing touched my spreadsheets. Now, I want Im teased again. I want that functionality and flexibility that LotSoft gives, however, I need a little more flexibility to create new strategies and back test the results, so I might use LotSoft as basic for customizing my own version, if I can work how to develop in Access. By, the did figure out why the 2375 bankroll and 325 p from your previous post. I was little confused

Reply #84

cps10 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:48:11 GMT

LotSoft works in an Access environment...it's the best to my knowledge. But like everyone has a-holes, everyone has opinions as to what they like best. I personally like LotSoft because of the Access base.

Reply #83

WSN1 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:30:56 GMT

Thanks RJoh for the notification!

Here are some keys for focus: Discretion, Responsibility, and Positive Purpose

Reply #82

WSN1 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:15:34 GMT

I understand JAP69 and agree, thanks

Reply #81

WSN1 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:13:24 GMT

Tntea, thanks for the update, I respect and understand your decision to refer me to your blog, I will do so and verify for myself. Im not sure I see your post on the following page Vtracs and Old combined. I do see a previous post of Vtracs and Old method on about page 5 of this post. Is that what you are referring to ? and no you did not said you promised . I will use a more appropriate term next time. Thanks again, I will report to you my finding with the v-tracs. Hopefully, I believe her scr... [ More ]

Reply #80

WSN1 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:52:59 GMT

I agree cps10, you can get bit by the lagger. I like the approach. However, in your example, how did you get to bankroll of $2,375 for a $325 win. EEO in all positions = 375 combos right? I think Im missing something. Again, Max sKip is a sound approach for any day of week if managed well. I like it!!! Thanks, and it works offline, with progression. That's even more exciting!, Also, what programs are you using to make your filter grouping and generate your stats. I have always customised my exce... [ More ]

Reply #79

tntea — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:37:39 GMT

Were there a promise? I dont remember.. All of this is listed in my blog

This method can be backtested for proof..

Reply #78

WSN1 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:14:03 GMT

Tntea, I am not clear on this post, however, I understood the previous post. I look forward to your additional updates and explanation samples you promised. Thanks

Reply #77

tntea — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:10:06 GMT

WSN1.. I listed the twist on the following page of this post.. Vtracs and OLD combined.. I have hit a straight this week in OK when playing the 10 number challenge .. (I forgot who posted that post..)

I don't go into a lot of detail of what I do , how I use my methods, or what profits are being made on this side now. In the past I caught a lot of flack from members when I tried helping. Even been accused of lying. It is so hard for some to accept truth so let it be..

I have liste... [ More ]

Reply #76

WSN1 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:09:23 GMT

Interesting Blackapple! I have not look at in this context. So you're taking the mirror combos with are at it's average hit ratio or beyond (due), then look for the most overdue mirror pair and play it with a higher weight to hit and give you even fewer combos to play. I will have to track, test and quantify that concept. It looks very feasible, Thanks for the response.

Reply #75

RJOh — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:55:08 GMT

A profitable system is a cheating system. If you know what's coming up next then it's unfair to the other losers and those businesses running the games for profit. As least that's the impression I got from the judge remarks in the article https://www.lotterypost.com/news/148908.htm .

When you participate in a lottery or a casino game, the only gamblers in the games are the players. It's a profitable business for those running the games and the players are loser by design, some one have to... [ More ]

Reply #74

JAP69 — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:46:04 GMT

What I showed you was the 125 number per position theory.

Just like cps said. There are a lot of filters for reduction.

Reply #73

sweetie7398 — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:17:57 GMT

Good Luck to you

Reply #72

cps10 — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:32:18 GMT

WSN1

The max skip of the EEO in Arizona is 36 draws. Even online, if you waited until 8 draws out without a hit, you are looking at, progressively, nearly a $31,000 bankroll just to win $625. Now, that is probably not worth it. That is with $1 bets of course. Offline, this strategy would be impossible to use. A better strategy in my opinion would be to wait until any of these phenomenon are at least 3 times the mathematical average out. That would mean, you would start after the number of dra... [ More ]

Reply #71

Blackapple — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:47:21 GMT

FIND Mirror combos out 5 draws

Most times one of the mirror digits fall as a clean number

within 7 draws

015,016,017,018,019,025,027,029,035,036

037,038,039,045,047,049,056,057,058,059

067,069,078,079,089,125,126,127,128,129

136,138,145,146,147,148,149,156,158,167

168,169,178,189,235,236,237,238,239,245

247,249,256,257,258,259,267,269,278,279

289,(345), 346,347,348,349,356,358,367,368,369

378,389,(456),457,458,459,467,469,478,479,489

I know it's hard to find... [ More ]

Reply #70

WSN1 — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:49:55 GMT

WIN D, what is the original Grid System that cps10 was speaking of and you are world famous for. He also, stated that one could use the grid setting for 60 days with the 4 double stack strategy and be profitable offline. I seach your blog, and although, I found useful information, I did not find anything call the original grid system.

Reply #69

WSN1 — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 04:07:20 GMT

JAP69, The challenge here is that it is a lot of combinations, if you used all 3 positions (125 + 125 + 125)=375 and it hits on average about 1/3 of the draws. You would have 2 use progressive wagering to hedge your bets and be consistently profitable. Better have a sizeable pot to start with. The longest out in your chart was 9 games. So what if you started there. that would be 375x9 and not to mention adding progressive wagering factor so that you make money, when it does hit.

Reply #68

JAP69 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:09:34 GMT

Original Post by WSN1 JAP69, good stuff. Saliu has some promising stats on these filters as a strategy. However, what we are doing here needs a little more work. One possibility with the history you submitted, is playing the eeo filter with 125 combos, when it is 7 out, this occurred 4x. and only went out further 3x. in the 470 draw history and use progressive wagering if you miss.

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What we have with even/ odd tracking is a faster paced game. S... [ More ]

Reply #67

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:20:23 GMT

JAP69, good stuff. Saliu has some promising stats on these filters as a strategy. However, what we are doing here needs a little more work. One possibility with the history you submitted, is playing the eeo filter with 125 combos, when it is 7 out, this occurred 4x. and only went out further 3x. in the 470 draw history and use progressive wagering if you miss.

Reply #66

JAP69 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:55:58 GMT

cps 10

I forgot to post this with the eoo history.

I checked the actual draw history of the S.C. eve draws.

The eoo had a most out of 12 draws in a 470 draw history

Get your eoo exact order for potential wins.

Structure search of SC3EVE.DMG: All Records

Printed: 01-14-2007

163 Records Found 163 Selected Records Printed Page

Record Date Pos1 Pos2 Pos3 Pos4 Matched Skips

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3 1... [ More ]

Reply #65

JAP69 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:10:05 GMT

Original Post by cps10 This is very interesting...are there any that are at max now?

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See how long it takes for these to come around.

South Carolina eve draws

65x code out 46 most out 49

lott

65x

67x

69x

85x

87x

89x

11x code out 68 most out 66

lott

11x

33x

13x

31x

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6x6 code out 50 most out 51

lott

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x15 code out 43 most out 39

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Reply #64

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:05:13 GMT

Enjoy Win D

Reply #63

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:04:23 GMT

Cps10, Im not sure, I have not tracked this filter in my spreadsheets nor any of the software programs Ive used. I might need to find a program that is doing this if it is worthwhile. Edit: OOPS, I think you were talking about another strategy!

Also, how can the 4 double stack be profitable offline over 60 days if you are spending $120 to make $80

Reply #62

cps10 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:51:34 GMT

Have fun and be safe WIN D

Reply #61

WIN D — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:47:21 GMT

LOL ... Thank you....... your stock just went way up in my book WSN1.

It's almost 70 degrees outside...and I'm going to the boat now.... LOL

Reply #60

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:36:22 GMT

LOL...Again WIN D, I do apologize and you are correct and again!, the flaw was the error I made when evaluating v-tracs double stacks and not the single digits

Reply #59

cps10 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:23:21 GMT

This is very interesting...are there any that are at max now

Reply #58

WIN D — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:21:13 GMT

Well WSn1 .....I just noticed this post you made about flaws You are not the only one that has found flaws ? What the hell flaw did he find ?

He said.... this was Risky ..... and you said This Has proved ??? LOL You gotta be kidding !

... if you think that saying something like ... OH thats soooo scary...or risky is enough to satisfy any mathematical investigation . That is funny.

Thats not math...! and its certainly not proof of any fact.

Until yo... [ More ]

Reply #57

JAP69 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:16:48 GMT

Original Post by cps10 John,

Yes, that's 8 one way (E/O) and 8 another (H/L), so 64 :) 27 numbers is the most that these produce. Would be interesting to put these in and find max skips and the like. I bet you could clean up playing these straight.

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I Have these back one year in the eve draw to find my stats.

When I was posting exact order pairs on The S.C. thread this is where I was pulling my info from.

Possibly a different code system a... [ More ]

Reply #56

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:09:18 GMT

cps10, Maximum Skip Rate that is a new parameter for me within skip tracking. How do you determine if a number is at it's max. skip rate. Are you talking about when a group combos have each reached it's longest out, then you play it til it hits? if so, are their any other details on this evaluation on the site, is this also part of the Original Grid system or different. Im looking for % of occurrences, approximate # of combination, overall success rate, otherwise, just the rules, then I can fi... [ More ]

Reply #55

cps10 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:03:58 GMT

WSN1

You bet...anytime :) Look in WIN D's blog. It should be in there. I do love that 4 doubles stack approach as well for online play.

I think for online play the 45 day approach works optimally. For offline, since the payout is lower, I would recommend 60 days.

Reply #54

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:00:08 GMT

cps10, thanks for the update on Grids. Where is the link for WIN D's original Grid system? After making a correction in my evaluation, I find that the 4 double stack is the best approach and I agree it all depends on your bankroll and this is better than the bank return and works only for online play. Does the Grid setting for 30, 45 or 60 days work offline

Reply #53

cps10 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:54:24 GMT

WSN1

Use a similar type of path for offline. I look for numbers that are at their maximum skip rate and play them altogether straight.

Reply #52

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:50:22 GMT

Gosh! WIN D, I will shout this on the mountain top, my humble apologizes, I was checking the column in my spreadsheet for v-tracs doubles and not single digit doubles. You are CORRECT. Hooray!!!. I checked a 1,000 draws in TX from 6/23 - 9/1/06 and there 4 occurrences where the double hit 4 consecutives times and was followed by a single and 1 occurrence where it was followed by another double. 80% success rate, with a 5% occurrence history and a 20% rate of return. I also agree now that the odd... [ More ]

Reply #51

cps10 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:38:29 GMT

John,

Yes, that's 8 one way (E/O) and 8 another (H/L), so 64 :) 27 numbers is the most that these produce. Would be interesting to put these in and find max skips and the like. I bet you could clean up playing these straight.

Reply #50

JAP69 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:05:29 GMT

cps10

If that what it figures out to be. I have not done the math on that.

If you want to track both parts at the same time I use this.

It is coded similiar to v-tracs but laid out differently with the numbers.

Just a matter of choosing the correct group and how it fell exact.

It is laid out breaking up the even/odd, hi/ lo a bit further.

c

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d

e] lot #s

1] 13

2] 024

5] 579

6] 68

no match code

________2lo1 1hi___1 ev 2 od

125__015,017,019,125,127,129

_____1... [ More ]

Reply #49

cps10 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:35:28 GMT

John

This is very intriguing. So you are showing that there are 64 different combinations for the 1000-number set

Reply #48

cps10 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:12:49 GMT

WIN D

That is correct. 100% of every occurrence when there were 5 doubles in a row in AZ, a single came out. Those are great odds.

That msg you sent to me is absolutely correct from my software.

Reply #47

JAP69 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:05:20 GMT

numbers will hit exact order the following eight

ways in each part.

doing each part separately you will have 125 exact

order plays without expansion on each position 1 2 or 3

Track for exact order play for the eight positions

in each part.

Make your best choice for exact order.

With 125 plays you know the math to get it right

for profit.

Other wise do filtering to cut the amount of plays

even 02468

odd 13579

eee,eeo,eoe,oee

ooo,ooe,oeo,eoo

Reply #46

WIN D — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:37:38 GMT

Let me give you a hint at what I am looking at Wsn1.

Not using just the 500 draws you looked at in AZ.... but looking at ALL ....2,664 draws yes?

I found only 3 times during the entire AZ history that doubles occurred ....5 times in a row!

There has never been an occurrence in AZ of 6 doubles in a row.

Let's stop and look at this for a while before you Mathematically dismiss anything shall we? LOL

Reply #45

cps10 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:26:53 GMT

WSN1

I quit tracking the Grids because it became very time consuming to do so. If I had been playing them, though, I would continue to track and I would have made profits. I use progressive wagering to ensure my profits with any system that I use. Right now I am using a max out system, in which I play pairs that are out to their max skip rate and play them straight using a progression. It's worked very well. Mathematics, assuming all lotteries are fair, do not lie. Eventually numbers must com... [ More ]

Reply #44

WIN D — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:51:25 GMT

Check your software Wsn1 .... Check something.

The way you stated the results is confusing .... why are you looking at doubles stacks only 3 doubles high?

Please answer these results questions simply if you will.

1. How many stacks of doubles at least 4 doubles high did you find in the 500 draws you tested?

2. How many times during that trial period did you find a double or triple occurred on the 5th. draw after you found a stack of doubles 4 high?

I would like to

Reply #43

WIN D — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:09:32 GMT

You gotta be kidding js1237...... Gee really? Do ya think that? There is risk in gambling? Remarkable ..... LOL

Let me research that for another 20 years and get back to you on your insightful speculation. LOL

js 1237....... you are assuming his point. He did not ask for a NOT TOO RISKY A Bet.....

He simply ask for a verifiable system that would show a consistent profit over time.

Pick 3 odds are crap no matter what .... duh! Las Vegas Slot machines are 15 times bett... [ More ]

Reply #42

tntea — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:28:32 GMT

427=423 424 425 426 427 428 429 420 273 274 725 726 727 728 729 720 473 744 745 746 747 748 749 740

927= 923 924 925 928 929 920 921 922 273 274 275 728 729 720 271 272 973 974 975 978 979 970 971 972

477=478 479 470 745 746 747 775 776 777 778 779 770

922=923 924 925 920 921 922 223 224 225 220 221 222

977= 978 979 970 971 972 778 779 770 771 772

249= 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 490 491 492 493 494 496 495 497 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297

749=740 741 742 745 747 746 748... [ More ]

Reply #41

tntea — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:27:10 GMT

VTRACS OLD method chart..

How to use.. First look down the left hand side to find your last draw..

Then that string has great potential for coming out within the next 7 days.. Now I am working with vtracs here too..

You can either go vtracs.. or OLD method or both..

If going vtrac.. you find your last draw on left hand side and play all in the row on left hand side..

If playing OLD only.. you find your last draw on left hand side and play the string..

IF doing both.. Find t... [ More ]

Reply #40

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:38:14 GMT

CPS10, as promised I would research out Grid, I found a couple post that went into Grids explanation, One of which is the following: https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/142765/2. How are these grids numbers generated? More importantly, I read in the last recorded total by you that you had a negative return of over -$1500, then you stopped recording the result in the post. Do you hve more data that supported the profitability. Are there other post that I should look at that will demonstrate that i... [ More ]

Reply #39

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:37:14 GMT

JS1237, I've been there also.

If there is anyone who would prefer to, please send me a private message with the details I am requesting. Thank you

Reply #38

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:32:10 GMT

RJOH thanks again for your response, I am exhausting all my options and keeping it all in perspective.

Reply #37

js1237 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:14:48 GMT

Yes, I agree with you WSN1... Not only is the scenario of 4 consecutive doubles is quite uncommon and even if this system did work, the high risk does not justify the small gain...

I have played many systems/strategies from LPand other sites over the years adn have lost much money...

I have been in search for years of any profitable system for any of the Pick 3-10 games and have not even gotten close...

So if you do find it, please share it with us, so that our losing population ca... [ More ]

Reply #36

RJOh — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:04:58 GMT

WSW1,

I hope you're not too disappointed, if coming up with a winning strategy was as easy as posting a request at LP, people like Steve Player, Gail Howard and others selling winning systems and strategies would be out of business. Even their winning systems and strategies don't guarantee a profit.

Reply #35

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:55:28 GMT

Well Im not the only one that has found even more flaws in this method. js1237 has proven that this method should not even get out of the starting blocks. Please, I suggest that no one play this method unless they can prove otherwise from what I and js1237 has found. You will lose your money and that's not funny

Reply #34

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:36:06 GMT

Well WIN D, I am getting back to you as I promised, and unfortunately my test did not validate your stats or success with this strategy. I tested over 500 draws in AZ from 6/24/03 to 1/29/05 and found 19 cases where after 3 consecutive doubles followed a single and 2 times a triple followed. 8 cases where after 4 consecutive doubles followed a single and 2 times a triple followed. 3 cases where after 5 consecutive doubles followed a single and 1 time a triple followed. 3 cases where after 6 cons... [ More ]

Reply #33

js1237 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:30:27 GMT

WIN D...

Your system is risky and not cost effective, and even if you win $37.50, wagering .25 box at a cost of $30, the profit is a mere $7.50..

If you are going to risk $30, the rewards should be much greater than $7.50.

Furthermore, if you play 25/25, at a cost of $60, and do not hit straight, and only a box for $37.50, then you have lost $22.50....

So unless your 90% odds is for a straight hit, it is not worth the risk...JS1237.

OK .... Most folks can't handle the truth. Yo... [ More ]

Reply #32

js1237 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:27:27 GMT

Your system is risky and not cost effective, and even if you win $37.50, wagering .25 box at a cost of $30, the profit is a mere $7.50..

If you are going to risk $30, the rewards should be much greater than $7.50.

Furthermore, if you play 25/25, at a cost of $60, and do not hit straight, and only a box for $37.50, then you have lost $22.50....

So unless your 90% odds is for a straight hit, it is not worth the risk...JS1237.

Reply #31

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:39:21 GMT

lol...The essence of awareness (in response to your quote)

As far as Saliu, Wow! Okay! I agree is very smart. I will leave the religion part alone. I have never corresponded with him. I can respect your opinion. Such is life.

Reply #30

WIN D — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:29:56 GMT

And Pilot ask..... What is truth?

and .... truth was staring him right in the eye! LOL

For what it's worth.... Saliu is very smart ...but he is a fool. Saliu and I parted ways over religious reasons. He thought he was God..... and I didn't agree ! LOL

Reply #29

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:28:25 GMT

WIN D, YEAH, finally! something I can test and verify. Thank you very very much. I will test and report back to you. It's looks viable. This is the type of solutions I am looking for. Does anyone else have something on this level to share that is specific and detailed? There is always more than one path that leads to your goal.

Reply #28

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:19:12 GMT

RJoh, thanks for your most respectable responses and well wishes. The most realistic and promising path toward resolution for me has been on saliu's website.

Reply #27

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:13:49 GMT

Sweetie, I got to be honest, you are combining 3 completely different concepts together, vtracs, followers, and flip side #s. One can use all three together in a multiple of directions and never get a consistent profit. So, I ask what are the successful details. These examples just show relationships not consistent profits. As far as v-tracs and Tntea, I am still looking for the specific detailed application of the vtrac twist that will bring consistent profits or if you know them please share.

Reply #26

WIN D — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:58:43 GMT

OK .... Most folks can't handle the truth. You can even post it in an open forum ....and most won't even realize what they have just seen. It's funny ...really. LOL

1. First,,, sign up for an online play site.

2. Wait

3 Find a State that just had 4 doubles in a row.

4. Play all 120 box single numbers...(next draw)

@ .25 each ...or $ 3o.oo

5. You will make a profit 90% of the time... [ More ]

Reply #25

sweetie7398 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:40:23 GMT

I do agree with tntea that vtracs work. I have been tracking numbers for SC and have found that many of the east coast states follow each other. The numbers that you play may need to be played for several days sometimes, but there have been many mirror hits that have come to SC. For example, NJ got 089(534) on 1/3 Eve, SC got 543(098) on 1/5 Eve. TN got 850 (305) on 1/5 Eve, SC got 035(580) on 1/6 Day. GA got 659(104) on 1/5 Day, SC got 401(956) on 1/7 Eve. TN received 720 (275) on two co... [ More ]

Reply #24

RJOh — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:25:16 GMT

WSN1,

I wish I had the answer to your question, I would play the pick3 games more. There has been those who claimed they had or bought such a system or knew some one with one, but no one has ever proved it. If you find one, please share it with the rest of the LP members.

Reply #23

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:39:58 GMT

RJoh, Does anyone have a PICK3 strategy that wins more than it cost to play consistently? Yes absolutely, this another way to state my original post. I do believe anything is possible. If the lottery post is not the place for me to receive the details of such a system, then can you direct me to where I should go to get the real deal. I would rather be productive in my search.

Reply #22

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:10:24 GMT

LckyLary, I appreciate your explanation and I understand these stats very well. What I am looking for it a strategy that will hit within the context of the parameters you have listed here. Whether it's tomorrow, over 500 or 1000 draws, It is relative. Do you have a strategy that will do just that, meet the requirements you just listed

Reply #21

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:04:26 GMT

Winner2Be, wow, I am not sure I understood the spaming explanation nor it's relevance, however, a winning strategy to begin with would be the minimum requested here in my original post. Speaking in relative terms, the game is the same, 10 #s play randomly in the same 3 positions, meaning the same basic mathematic rules apply. The profitable strategy will prove from state to state that it is mathematically sound. Looking at multiple states gives you a more fine tune calibration resource for sett... [ More ]

Reply #20

RJOh — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:49:29 GMT

What you're really asking Does anyone have a PICK3 strategy that wins more than it cost to play consistently? Since States continue to pay winners with 50% of ticket sales, the answer would seem to be obvious but there are those who claim it's possible. Good luck on finding someone who is willing to share the details of such a system for free in a public forum.

Reply #19

LckyLary — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:35:23 GMT

If a ticket is 50 cents for STR play, and STR pays $250, to break even you would have to hit one drawing every 500 (1/1000 X 50 cents)... a profitable strategy in that situation would have to win MORE THAN 2x as often as Chance. If your back test shows avg. 3 wins STR per 1000 draws then for every $500 spent you'd win $750. When it's pari-mutuel it gets VERY complicated because some numbers (like Pick 4: 1-9-x-x) have lower payouts and if others are using a similar sytem it waters down the pri... [ More ]

Reply #18

Winner2Be — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:34:19 GMT

It sounds like one is about to start ing and getting enough interested individuals involved to go for the big attack. Luckily most LP Members are too smart for this. My suggestion is to find the best method for YOU and your individual state because if you are playing local and not online it really doesn't matter what results other states are having. Good Luck to all and don't get stuck in this trap.

Again, good luck finding YOUR best profitable pick 3 Strategy.

Reply #17

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:23:28 GMT

Dead_Aim, this is the best solution I've seen yet on this post, after looking at your recorded results on your website for several states over the last couple months. However, It appear to only work best online and mathematically, the most profitable practice would be to play all selections in every possible order, which is about 30 or 60#s a day per game to play. I can live with that, however, this is not profitable offline from state to state, boxed or straight over the long haul. Although, y... [ More ]

Reply #16

JAP69 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:09:35 GMT

No way to back test exact order pairs unless you set up rules on when to play them and the third number(s) to go with them.

Reply #15

WSN1 — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:07:50 GMT

Littleoldlady, I think we are starting to get somewhere with viability, however, hoping for something hot to continue it's hot streak is not always the best choice. Nor the cold doing the reverse and staying cold. This principle you speak of is possible with v-tracs or just the 0-9 digits. Have you a specific formula or spreadsheet, that sets up the parameters and detailed rules around these high level rules you've listed. Ranking can be a very perceptional evaluation, concluding differently fro... [ More ]

Reply #14

WSN1 — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:49:57 GMT

JAP69, I understand all of the following concepts: exact order, pairs, probabilities, and using software, however, how does any of these concepts translate into a verifiably profitable strategy

Reply #13

JAP69 — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:12:12 GMT

You said you used v-tracs.

I used something similiar to v-tracs and was finding exact order pair probabilities using software.

Reply #12

JAP69 — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:06:32 GMT

I have no other links to post.

Reply #11

Littleoldlady — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:50:45 GMT

I have studied and studied..the key is betting I think. When using vtracs, one more or likely will bet the same amount on all 8 plays. I think that a person would do well if they ranked the plays and then bet accordingly. Some plays in a vtrac are hot and then some plays are cold. If the hot is hitting, double or triple your bet..if you are worried about a cold play in a certain vtrac, play the minimum over a period of time rather than betting the boat. The best time to try a co... [ More ]

Reply #10

WSN1 — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:25:51 GMT

Tntea, I have worked a lot with V-tracs with a lot of success,

but profitability is another story. There is one v-tracs method

that someone has shared with me, however, I have not gotten

it to work as well for me during quantifiable testing as the

only working profitable v-tracs solution. If the v-tracs

twist can be explained in detail here, I would be interested to put

it through an intense battery of test. Every angle I looked at with

V-tracs, It has come up short of being profitable.

Reply #9

Dead_Aim — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:11:10 GMT

Try the doubles chart tonight.

TX EVETX EVE

572576457562452577766455552622

456762472476462566722477644442

Reply #8

tntea — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:52:57 GMT

cute folk tale BA

If Pick 4 is easy for you...

Step up to Pick 5.........Now here is my all time challenge... and loving it..

Reply #7

tntea — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:51:24 GMT

No.. the OLD will never be discontinued here. It is vtracs twist.. and works great for all states..

Reply #6

CCHS13 — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:47:44 GMT

WSN1 whatever method you go with a key is in the waggering you do

No system is going to win everyday, if you win every week you are doing

well. The approach I take is power betting on just a few numbers so that

the days you do have the right picks you can multiply your wins that day.

ex. $1 str8 gets you 500, but 5$ pays you 2500 on that same day so

you dont have to hit 5 different str8's to make 2500. The same goes for boxes,

.50 will pay you $40 so how about $5 to make... [ More ]

Reply #5

CCHS13 — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:35:28 GMT

Or the OLD method, have you shyed away from that tntea

Reply #4

JAP69 — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:31:28 GMT

Excalibur had a very good post on systems.

This is the link

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/145832/3

Reply #3

Blackapple — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:23:29 GMT

First you need patience

Study how the numbers fall

Explore the search box

Many here can post a winner

the week or shorter

under the right conditions.

Lottery is like a clever rat

Japanese Folk Tale

There once lived a Samurai who was plagued by a large and clever rat who had the run of the house. This annoyed the Samurai to no end so he went to the village to buy a cat. A street vendor sold him a cat that he said would catch the rat and indeed the cat looked trim and fit... [ More ]

Reply #2

cps10 — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:10:46 GMT

I use several, WSN1. I think there are a lot of them that are very profitable, if you use them right. Vtracs is one. Grids is another. Lucky's system is another. If you adapt it to the way you can afford it, etc., then many of these can be very productive.

Reply #1

tntea — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:05:37 GMT

Vtracs......

Is There A Profitable Pick 3 Strategy?

WSN1 — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:52:04 GMT

Does anyone have a PICK 3 strategy that is PROFITABLE. One that is quantifiable. I can go back several hundred draws in any state's back history and prove the profitablity each time, throught testing the results of the application of the strategy. All it takes is one proven strategy that is PROFITABLE over the long haul. It is very very easy to hit the game, however, becoming profitable, like earning a paycheck for hours worked everyday and looking back at the end of the year at your total earni... [ More ]