Play to lose!!

Reply #17

Pilot — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:55:05 GMT

thats funny!!

4 bucks!! I know I know but being that I usually win zero, that is I usually LOSE money, 4 dollars multiplied by how many bets I make could satisfy me. I'm getting fed up with it man. It's just as hard as trying to win I'm finding. I like that "goalpost" thing, maybe I'll try that next time.

are some people just plain unlucky with games of chance

Reply #16

Stack47 — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:57:11 GMT

I'm a Kenoholic and every Fall I fly to Vegas with a group of golfers. We rent a couple of vans, drive to southern Utah, play golf for 5 days and spend 2 or 3 days in Vegas before we go home. Since most of the guys are not gamblers, they spend alot time with me in the Keno Lounges. They get more play out their $25 than they would playing quarter slot machines and have more time to flirt with the tail waitresses too.

People probably play a 10-spot because they can win $100,000 for a buck and g... [ More ]

Reply #15

tntea — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:19:22 GMT

Little risky there.. to put $100 on a string of numbers not to show... for only a $300 win...

I had rather put that $100 on a basketball game and have a better chance of doubling my money..

Reply #14

Pilot — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:39:17 GMT

Because the odds are better !

They pick 20 numbers out of 80 and I have to get at least 6 of them to win $10. Woop-te-do. It is much more difficult to pick 10 of 20 out of a possible 80 than 10 of 60 numbers that WON"T hit, see what I mean?

I have been tying to win for a year and I found that I am much better at picking losing numbers. If they offer a prize for losing numbers, why not take advantage of it? as for turning a profit-if I can triple my bet consistently that would be fine,... [ More ]

Reply #13

Todd — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:27:49 GMT

Different strokes for different folks.

I have never heard of a lotto player making any sizeable profit off of prizes less than $10, because over time it always costs more than what you win. That's simple odds and mathematics.

If you could consistently make a profit at a lower-tier prize level, which would mean that you can pick winning numbers consistently, then why wouldn't you turn your attention to the jackpot prize

Reply #12

Pilot — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:02:26 GMT

thanks Todd, I just think that's where the money's at in this game. check out the payouts on the NY lotto website.

Reply #11

Pilot — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:58:34 GMT

Coin Toss,

Yes you are right, but the game I'm playing pays out a total of about $16,000 per day to losing games as opposed to the 6/10, 7/10/ and 8/10 winning games. only about 3 people win the 8/10 game every day and thats $300 each. But very difficult to hit 8 of 20 drawn numbers out of 80.

I was just noticing that the smartest way to play pick 10 is to try to lose because the odds are better...to pick 10 of 60 not drawn numbers seems like it would be easy no? well, it ain't! Easier... [ More ]

Reply #10

Todd — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:45:24 GMT

Well .... um .... OK .... I guess.

I usually play lotto games to try and win the top prize, but if going after the $4 prizes is your thing, then so be it.

I am not aware of a strategy for that, other than maybe looking at cold/hot numbers. Some people think cold will stay cold and hot will stay hot, and other people feel the opposite. Whatever theory you have on that would be applied to the stats for the game.

Here are the stats for New York's Pick 10 game, which should help you out... [ More ]

Reply #9

Coin Toss — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:04:15 GMT

Pilot

The house , the lottery in this case, knows that you are more likely to hit a number in that case than to not hit any numbers.

No matter what kind of formula you try to come up with, it's still going to come down to payouts based on the percentages of times a player plays and hits numbers.

On Pick 6 games for example, on a $1 play (two lines of numbers), people hit 0, 1, or 2 numbers, of the 12 numbers played.

Reply #8

lottolaughs — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:02:34 GMT

Whoops,I read that wrong,Pilot. You're talking about a pick 10 game,right? Sorry! It seems like it would be easy enough to pick wrong numbers, but you're right! When you want to pick them you can't but when you're trying NOT to pick them you can. Go figure

Reply #7

lottolaughs — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:59:23 GMT

Well,for starters,how about using my new magic boxes ? 27 losing combos in that box would net you $81, assuming you're playing a buck a draw.

Reply #6

Pilot — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:52:19 GMT

Todd,

Why would I play for a $4 prize? $4 is better than $0, and if I had a pretty good idea that I would not hit any #'s why, then I'd bet 20 times and get me $80, do the math, if the odds are better : picking 10 of 60 that won't hit and playing those numbers 20, 50 or more times, those little $4 prizes add up.

I am looking for the holy grail, some kind of formula that will work most of the time to help pick losing #s.

Such a humble request...

I think this is how keno players in NY... [ More ]

Reply #5

Todd — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:05:00 GMT

I don't understand. How can you try to get any particular prize in a scratch game

Reply #4

tntea — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:47:59 GMT

People do that all the time with scratch offs.. they go for less than $4... Usually play to lose..

Reply #3

Todd — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:05:34 GMT

An interesting thought, but why would you play for a $4 prize

Reply #2

Lkydeb*594 — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:50:07 GMT

Reply #1

pacattack05 — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:59:12 GMT

I'll mail you all the crumpled up tickets here in my waste basket...

Play to lose!!

Pilot — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:20:17 GMT

Pick 10 in NY pays out $4 if you have no winning numbers.

10/20/80...look at it this way...the odds are much better picking 10 from 60 than 10 from 20 out of 80, right? so I've been trying to "lose" for the past couple of days and yes I do get 9/10 losing numbers or 8 of 10...heh heh,

the odds are better but it isnt easy like I expected.

I'm trying to come up with a formula, but so far nothing.

I've tried pi x number x 2 and that is a bust. Always one number shows up.

This makes me m... [ More ]