Lotto Creo

Reply #40

Badger — Thu, 03 May 2007 11:34:54 GMT

You know, he more I read about other members jackpot games, the more envious I get. Here in WI our 6/49 game only pays a measly $2 for hitting 3 of 6, and the 6/39 game only pays a BUCK ! (and when the game at one time was a 6/36 game, you got NOTHING for 3 of 6)

$10 for 3 of 6 sounds wonderful

Reply #39

BobP — Thu, 03 May 2007 05:02:27 GMT

And the Fl 6/53 for 05/02 is 1-6-13-21-22-39

Lotto Creo had two correct, the 1 and 39.

I am ending this test while still a winner in profit before I have to risk my own money on this software's picks. Time to move on.

Thanks for watching the thread. Good luck to you.

BobP

Reply #38

BobP — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:56:56 GMT

And the Fl 6/53 for 04/28 is 1-8-22-46-47-50

Lotto Creo had one correct, the 50. Only 3 more tries before I'm playing on my own money again.

For the Fl 6/53 Wed 05/02/07 Lotto Creo Prediction Analysis is . . .

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BobP

Reply #37

BobP — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 04:27:39 GMT

And the Fl 6/53 for 04/25 is 4-7-14-26-28-31

Lotto Creo had two correct the 14 and 28. Only 4 more tries before I'm playing on my own money again.

For the Fl 6/53 Sat 04/28 Lotto Creo Prediction Analysis is . . .

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BobP

Reply #36

BobP — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 05:23:42 GMT

And the FL 6/53 for 04/21 is 10-17-20-21-22-35

Lotto Creo had three correct the 20, 22 and 35 a steady improvement over the last two draws. These numbers did not combine on my six tickets to provide a win. Only 5 more tries before I'm playing on my own money again.

For the FL 6/53 Wed 04/25 Lotto Creo Prediction Analysis is . . .

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BobP

Reply #35

BobP — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 03:45:07 GMT

And the FL 6/53 for 04/18 is 01-05-20-23-31-38

Lotto Creo had two correct the 20 and 24, so I guess it improved over the last draw with only one number correct. Only 6 more tries before I'm playing on my own money.

For the Fl 6/53 Sat 04/21 Lotto Creo Prediction Analysis is . . .

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BobP

Reply #34

LANTERN — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:45:42 GMT

A wheel is like a net woven to catch prizes. Filters cut holes in your net that let the lesser prizes out. Filters are only for targeting a jackpot where getting a series of filters correct is an important first step along with having all the winning numbers and the winning line among the lines you are playing.

BobP

I know that to be true for the pick 3 game, it might also be for other games.

Reply #33

BobP — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:42:25 GMT

You are risking way too much for the likely reward. Start CoverMaster and run off a 3if6 wheel for 20 numbers to the number of lines your budget can easily afford for a reasonable series of plays. Say 6 to 10 lines, then Optimize then print and enter the wheel into Lotto Creo, forget the filters the first line you remove totally destroys the integrity of the wheel so you're just playing Quick Picks with no guaranteed percentage of coverage.

A wheel is like a net woven to catch prizes. Fil... [ More ]

Reply #32

BobP — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:31:25 GMT

Cough, that's actually an analysis of the Belgium 6/42 game. You want to open and update the game you play, then click the [Analyzer] and let it run for an hour, then save, then select that file you just built and click [Prediction] to get your 20. If you run the Analyzer before each prediction, delete the old one because sometimes the Analyzer stops on the same number and you can't tell which one to use so you have to delete both and start over.

BobP

Reply #31

paint1 — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:39:22 GMT

I think using the Programs Analyser predictor are the best way to go.Unfortunately you will usually get 3 numbers right on one ticket once in awhile 4 numbers for $50. Meanwhile you're losing your shirt. What I didn't explain very well was that even though I used the program's Smart Numbers (the dice) and selected 4 hot 1 cold 1 repeat number; the program used 43 of the 49 numbers. Obviously 42 numbers aren't hot, so theres a problem with the program.

Unless you have a good second source... [ More ]

Reply #30

hcrude14 — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 04:56:35 GMT

I selected the 20 number prediction (Biege 1769) reduced the numbers to 14 just by intuition and used a lottery post wheel for 24 lines.Lotto Creo's 20 number selection contained 3 numbers I was fortinate enough when reduced these numbers to 14 I still had the 3 numbers and had 1 line with 3 numbers for 10 bucks.When I checked the Default 20 number prediction it contained 5 of the 6 numbers drawn.I play the WC 649.

I am not sure what the difference is between Default and Biege 1769 but eith... [ More ]

Reply #29

paint1 — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:51:26 GMT

This time I picked through the filters and decided that I would go with 5 hot numbers 1 of which would be a repeat number 1 cold number. Lotto Creo produced 99 sets of numbers out of which I think about 32 matched my selection. Of these I played the first 15 sets. All 6 numbers plus the bonus number were amoung my sets although never more than 2 numbers on any one ticket. When I checked over the numbers covered by the 15 tickets 43 of the 49 numbers were played. I'm probably lucky that 8 of th... [ More ]

Reply #28

BobP — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:35:15 GMT

And the FL 6/53 for 04/14 is 07-20-33-34-37-40

Lotto Creo had only one correct the 20, the odds are things will go up rather then down from here. Only 7 more tries before I'm playing on my own money.

For the FL 6/53 Wed 04/18/ Lotto Creo Prediction Analysis is . . .

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BobP

Reply #27

BobP — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:36:51 GMT

The FL 6/53 winning numbers for 04/11 were 02-05-12-19-26-43

Lotto Creo had only two correct 02 and 05. Only 8 more tries before I'm playing on my own money.

For the FL 6/53 Lotto Creo Prediction Analysis is . . .

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BobP

Reply #26

paint1 — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:03:39 GMT

Thanks, I'll have a look at Lotto Buster Lotto Mania later today. Have to agree with you Bobp, the filters filtered a win out of me too. The best I've done so far is to run analyzer for 1, 5, 10, 20 minutes then compair all the numbers play only those numbers that came up all four times. It gave me 4 winning numbers plus the bonus number in 13 numbers. I usually use Todd's wheels here on occasion Peter's free lotto wheel page.

Reply #25

BobP — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:02:23 GMT

Don't use the wheels that come with Lotto Creo, the program allows you to add your own wheels, get a better one from LotteryPost or make one with CoverMaster you can save half the cost of a wheel if you go for 90% coverage instead of 100%

Forget the filtering too, more likely you filter out the winning line.

BobP

Reply #24

hcrude14 — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:05:45 GMT

Hi, You might have a look at lotto Buster and lotto Mania,I find they both have a few more bells and whistles,I don't own a bolt in the above programs so I'm not promoting them.

I've had 3 numbers in the WC 649 usinig lotto Creo's 20 number prediction it appears to do this consistantly, but when I reduce these numbers to an affordable wheel I eliminate 1 or 2 of the numbers.I have to play with it to get a better knowledge of the system and its settings.In closing I'm impressed with Lotto Cre... [ More ]

Reply #23

paint1 — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:46:09 GMT

Well Lotto Creo did pretty well in WC tonight. I went with 12 lines from line width , amoung the lines were all 6 numbers plus the bonus number. Of course I had 2 numbers right on every other line.I need another system to compare Lotto Creo against.

Reply #22

RJOh — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:54:39 GMT

How big is this farm if you bet it and still can't afford a full wheel?

I downloaded a trial copy of Lotto Creo, but with its 18 numbers limit I felt it couldn't get a fair test against other fully working software. The best one can do is get a feel for some of its features. I do like the fact that its data files are in an ASCII format which makes it easier to share or update them with other programs files.

Reply #21

BobP — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:29:56 GMT

You are so right. If we knew for sure the next prediction would have all the winning numbers in a reduced field we could bet the farm on the outcome and reinvest the prizes until we could afford a full wheel or take out a loan on the farm to play a full wheel. BobP

Reply #20

jarasan — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:17:34 GMT

Hey Bob, I understand the difference, I guess one point I was making is that these systems are similar. Another point I was trying to make is that the systems reduce your numbers down, of course, but a 20 number full wheel is very expensive all the way down to a 14 number wheel. I was just showing that OCCASINALLY (like last night) the numbers were all there but that it doesn't get them ALL, everytime. No software can guarantee an accurate reduced set everytime. The software will occasionall... [ More ]

Reply #19

BobP — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:24:47 GMT

When it comes to testing lottery software you have to seperate prediction from wheeled results. The holy grail is any software that can put all the winning numbers into a wheelable reduced field often enough to be useful.

After all, once you have the reduced field working for you the wheeling park is simply mechanics. Kind of like prediction is the engine and wheeling is the gears or transmission. You can't go anywhere if the engine isn't working and when it is even if you never get out... [ More ]

Reply #18

jarasan — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 02:32:46 GMT

The draw results for 4/09 MD. BonusMatch5 were 13-19-22-29-30 bb 17

You will find that the 17-19-22-29-30 is in the top set of lines and the 13 in the overdue set, the numbers are all there tonight, pretty good. The lines I actually played and created from those numbers above gave me 2 little winners tonight. I update this every day along with the Lottomania software. It does odd/even, lo/high, frequency, sums, etc.. The software basically is my starting point to generate and organize the... [ More ]

Reply #17

jarasan — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:21:15 GMT

BobP, Lotto Creo looks like Lotto Mania in what it does for you, Lotto Mania has a wizard for generating lines to play. I use the wizard to generate maybe 20 to 30 lines, then from those lines consolidate them, and weigh them towards any trend which I perceive to be occuring and going foward. I look at the previous draws going back two weeks or so for trends and use the past 75 games to chose the HOT, AVG, COLD numbers. for eg. for today with bonus match 5 in MD.

04/09/2007 bm5

4-9-14-19... [ More ]

Reply #16

paint1 — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:41:48 GMT

Little Creo got 3 right in WC. I spent $13 to win $10. Little Creo got 4 numbers right on the previous draw, so I'll hang in there for awhile.

Reply #15

BobP — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 05:24:36 GMT

And the Fl 6/53 winning numbers for 04/07/2007 are . . .

06-09-21-29-40-52 so Lotto-Creo got 3 correct 21-40-52 none of which connected on my tickets to make a winning line, oh well 9 more tries before I am playing on my own money.

For Wed 04/11/07 Fl6/53 Lotto-Creo Prediction Analysis is:

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BobP

Reply #14

BobP — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:04:29 GMT

And the winning numbers are: 3-13-19-22-49-53

Arrrrrrrrrrrgh! only the 49 came in, a fitting balance to six correct last draw, oh well 10 more tries before I'm playing on my own money again.

For Sat 04/07/2007 FL6/53 Lotto Creo Prediction Analysis is:

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BobP

Reply #13

libra — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:48:00 GMT

Hi Bob

A while back , I posted about Lotto Creo Pro 5.0. When I tried it I got several 4 of 5's. I noticed that you did not mention anything about the filters. They tell you in percentages how often that filter has hit or not hit. With boxes that you can uncheck to eliminate what you don't want to use.There are 10 filters. Hot cold, Low High, Last Drawn, Even - Odd, Last Five, Width of Line, Sums , Bankers, Last Digit , First Digit.Also Check out options at the top of the page. You have... [ More ]

Reply #12

ExpertLotto — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:32:32 GMT

look for 'beta versions' section at our downloads page. the predictor (and some other new features) are not included in the latest official version yet. you'll need a license to use the predictor though.

btw, there's also a link to a white paper at our own discussion board that explains the math behind the predictor (short story - it's based on pattern matching

Reply #11

hcrude14 — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:46:27 GMT

Thanks Bob,

I'm trying out the trial version begining lastnite.

Reply #10

BobP — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 07:08:05 GMT

Far as I can tell this routine is locked in at 20 numbers. In the trial version I'm still working with they only allow you to wheel up to 18 numbers so after the Smart Numbers predicts 20 you have to eliminate 2 of the picks before the program allows you to advance to wheeling, but of course you can always use your own wheel.

BobP

Reply #9

hcrude14 — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:08:53 GMT

Hi Bob,

Can you set Lotto Creo to predict any quantity of no's like say for instance 12 0r 14 ect

Reply #8

BobP — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:44:19 GMT

I realized my free version copy of Expert Lotto was 2004 so I downloaded a fresh copy. Looked it all over including the grayed out areas and I cannot find trend prediction or any prediction for that matter. I visited the Expert Lotto Forum and didn't find anything on prediction even in the paid users only forum though I only looked at the last 100 messages.

Here are the 20 numbers Lotto Creo Smart Numbers predicted for Wed April 4th.

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Reply #7

Raziel — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 19:50:03 GMT

Good going Bob on the hit with Creo

Raziel

Reply #6

Maryland — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:59:25 GMT

I tried all kinds of methods with Lotto Creo, sometimes letting it run for hours. The groups analysis for Lotto Creo seem to be the best for picking numbers. Expert Lotto does have a prediction, and gives values/numbers but the trend prediction is what your really looking for. There's a very active forum for the software.

Reply #5

BobP — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 17:31:11 GMT

Lotto Creo seems to have several ways to selecting numbers, I was using Prediction Analysis, letting it run for about twenty minute and highlighting the highest number before going to Prediction. Is that what you were doing?

Does Expert Lotto have a default prediction routine that can be tested, how does it select numbers for you to play? Thanks BobP

Reply #4

Rakster — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:13:17 GMT

My bad... jumped the gun again... congrats on your good luck.

Reply #3

Maryland — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 08:50:20 GMT

I think you just hit a lucky day BobP. I've had Lotto Creo for awhile, then again maybe it works for your lottery but for my 5/39 hasn't faired well. You can't import any drawings, you have to take what they give you in the updates drawing. You can if you want put them in manually. Sometimes I get double numbers in the tickets line or zeroes. I've tried contacting them on the issue but a year later still no response. Of all the lottery software I have, I'm sold on Expert Lotto. You get im... [ More ]

Reply #2

BobP — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 05:12:19 GMT

Try reading what I wrote before you reply. I never suggested buying the program for 20 number wheels you can make them free with CoverMaster or get them right here on Lottery Post. In fact here is the wheel I used. BobP

1 5 14 16 18 20

1 4 7 8 12 17

2 3 11 15 18 19

2 6 7 13 16 20

4 8 9 10 13 14

5 6 9 10 12 17

Reply #1

Rakster — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 05:05:54 GMT

There is a free site online that shows you 20 numbers wheeling systems... do not buy this...

Lotto Creo

BobP — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 04:54:08 GMT

I'm looking for some input on a lottery software called Lotto Creo. I downloaded the 15 day trial version which is some what limited.

The trial program predicts 20 numbers, but only allows you to wheel 18 so you have to eliminate 2, but it tells you what those 20 numbers are so you can always use your own wheels with the trial version.

Using the Prediction Analyzer on the Fl 6/53 the first time I got 3 right among 20, but didn't play. The second time I did play and got only 2 correc... [ More ]