Random Number Generator: ORION Products...

Reply #11

Badger — Wed, 02 May 2007 11:54:17 GMT

Wondering something. Probably a rhetorical question....

If the algorithm uses the most recent number (e.g. 15 ) to calculate the number that comes after, then the actual formula used in the algorithm to calculate the following number would have to change after each number is drawn.....otherwise the same number would always follow 15...

Therefore, it would seem the algorithm would have any number of formuli in it and a subprogram that somehow randomly picks one of the formuli to use, each... [ More ]

Reply #10

pacattack05 — Wed, 02 May 2007 09:45:42 GMT

And i thought about it and i just realize that you could start a lottery like that, a lottery that will be can be called: Decimal or Rational Numbers

Now would that lottery be just for women, or for everyone

Reply #9

pumpi76 — Tue, 01 May 2007 23:20:26 GMT

And something that can be very random i think, perhaps impossible to crack raised to the 10th power would be if you let the numeric field of a RNG be the Magnification scale of a microscope or electron microscope up the the nanoscale....What i am saying, for example if the RNG output at a certain time is 5, that 5 has a magnification scale just the same way a yard is divided into feets and feeds are divided into inches and inches divided into centimeters and centimeters divided into milimiters a... [ More ]

Reply #8

pumpi76 — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:15:47 GMT

I am planning to buy a membership with them to try them and see how good they are and afterwards tell all LP members if they are for real or they are bluffing...But the thing is that, I just got my pre-paid debit card from the bank and they are promising me that it should work, just like a credit card..But i don't have any money with me right now..Not until the 1st of next month (May)...It is then when i will be using the debit card for the first time..

The laws in Georgia, I've never studied... [ More ]

Reply #7

Stack47 — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:01:46 GMT

I constantly receive emails from DNA telling me, how they constantly get 5of5 + 0 in California Lotto Plus, and 5of 6 and 4of 6 on other state lotto too...If these guys can do it without a supercomputer, now imagine with one...

If you believe what they're telling you is true, buy their system.

They got a supercomputer that can tell if you are are in distress or are lying...

Have they changed the laws in Georgia or are the results of a lie detector still unadmissible in a court of law... [ More ]

Reply #6

Stack47 — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:49:55 GMT

My response was made because you misrepresented the claim made by Orion Products. In the first paragraph they said:

There are several of these algorithms and it is difficult, though in principle not impossible, to assess from the numbers which algorithm is used.

And you used that statement to say a RNG could be cracked. However in the second paragraph that you neglected to add, ORION said:

Another approach to obtain random numbers is to use noise in nature. The... [ More ]

Reply #5

LANTERN — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 06:19:21 GMT

Random Number Generators are generating numbers in a sequence in such away that the next number has no relation with the previous numbers. There are software routines that may generate these numbers but these only approach the ideal of independence between the subsequent numbers because they still use an algorithm to calculate the next number from the previous one. There are several of these algorithms and it is difficult, though in principle not impossible, to assess from the numbers which algo... [ More ]

Reply #4

pumpi76 — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 02:47:10 GMT

I constantly receive emails from DNA telling me, how they constantly get 5of5 + 0 in California Lotto Plus, and 5of 6 and 4of 6 on other state lotto too...If these guys can do it without a supercomputer, now imagine with one...Whatever calculations you can do, a supercomputer can do it better with the help of a human (of course except reasoning)...

They got a supercomputer that can tell if you are are in distress or are lying...The supercomputer looks a 52 points in your face and pays attenti... [ More ]

Reply #3

pumpi76 — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 02:26:48 GMT

I doubt that nature can be more random than a computer unless the output field was of 1 digit, and the span of the output field was very large...The only thing in nature that i think can be trully random is if you had miles and miles of sheet with sensors and you were to record each microsecond the location the drop of water hits the ground in a rain...And electron tunneling, if i think it is what it is is not random enough...

Also something that i say can be more random than any existing thi... [ More ]

Reply #2

Stack47 — Sun, 08 Apr 2007 16:47:45 GMT

What you can learn from this paragraph is that even though there are several algorithms that generate the random numbers, it is possible to assess (determine) from the numbers spit out from the RNG, which algorithm is been used....

And in the very next paragraph Orion explained why they don't use that approach.

Another approach to obtain random numbers is to use noise in nature. The most commonly used noise sources are bouncing of ping pong balls (in lotteries) or more sophisticated: ra... [ More ]

Reply #1

psykomo — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 03:12:09 GMT

pumpi76.................Psykomo>>>>

Agrees with UU

Several................(more than two people) sum of my friend's are

building a supercomputer................they bought a large older metal

building R linking a large number of PC's..................TOGETHER!

The big cost$$$$$ has been getting the building insulated HVAC completed (they have chosen to complete HVAC,....last).................

NO PROBLEM finding..........1000's of OLD computers people who

want to wo... [ More ]

Random Number Generator: ORION Products...

pumpi76 — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:43:14 GMT

I'll like for you all to read what's in bold....I got this information from ORION Products, for what it looks is a company that specializes in products for encryption...

http://www.randomnumbergenerator.nl/rng/home.html

I'll like you to read this excerpt from their website, specially what's in color blue:

Random Number Generators are generating numbers in a sequence in such away that the next number has no relation with the previous numbers. There are software routines that may genera... [ More ]