You make the call...

Reply #9

Coin Toss — Mon, 28 May 2007 17:26:56 GMT

RickG

That's exactly what I'm thinking. If she is telling me somethin like that, and then I find out it is so far from being accurate that it's silly, I'm going to be asking myself ehat other kind of bunk is she pedaling?

PS folks:

I'm on that group since I had many years of casino work and am trying to give them info from inside the pit .

I tried for a long time to get casinos to address problem gambling but the only think I ever saw was a 3 X 5 placard with the 1-800-GAMBLER... [ More ]

Reply #8

Rick G — Mon, 28 May 2007 16:17:34 GMT

Coin Toss,

I agree with you 1000%. The person responding to you is being dishonest and has no business being a moderator of any forum regardless of the topic or agenda being pushed.

Dishonesty is not the right approach to ANY problem we face in life.

Reply #7

jarasan — Mon, 28 May 2007 15:42:11 GMT

These are the type of people that will tell you fire can't melt steel, pi is of apple, blueberry, etc.. mathematically or factually challenged people are everywhere. Here is an odds explanation that is pretty good that moderator left out the reduction of the set size. This is off a lottery math site discussing whether it is better to spend $50 on 1 game or $1 on 50 games.

The odds of a Lotto style lottery can be found with the formula: n! / (n - r)! r! where n is the highest numbered ball... [ More ]

Reply #6

justxploring — Mon, 28 May 2007 14:51:17 GMT

I thought this would be better sent in a PM, but rather than ask you if you feel you have a gambling problem, because it's none of my business, I'll just make this statement.

Internet help groups are formed to help people. Sounds very redundant, but I'll say it again. LOL

People are attracted to these forums because they anonymously can discuss their addictions and feel safe. So let's say I join a group for problem drinkers. If I drink 1 cokkktail* or even a beer, it's usually lights... [ More ]

Reply #5

justxploring — Mon, 28 May 2007 14:33:12 GMT

I agree with both you and the moderator, Coin Toss, although I always will side with the truth since I believe in giving accurate information to help people. However, this reminds me of the discussion about cutting the odds in half by purchasing a second ticket. I completely understand why others argue that it's true. We're just looking at it differently. To me it is clear that a player buying a ticket for a game with odds of 1:100M isn't really better off spending another 2 or three dollars.... [ More ]

Reply #4

Coin Toss — Mon, 28 May 2007 14:21:22 GMT

Gasmeterguy

Thanks for replying!

KY Floyd, Badger

That's what I was thinking. Let's say that someone she counsels bumps into a lottery player and her 2.5 billion to one odds come up. The lottery player tells the person, Look, she doesn't know what she's talking about and then shows them the back of a playslip with the posted odds, or tells them how to figure them.

The person would indeed be convinced that she doesn't know what she's talking about.

And Badger, you have a point... [ More ]

Reply #3

Badger — Mon, 28 May 2007 13:00:55 GMT

If the person that is trying to help you is giving you false information, or skewing it to get you to think a certain way, then that person is no help and not to be trusted. And what you need in a case like that is someone who can be trusted.

Not to mention that 176 million to one odds are gigantic enough as it is.....

Reply #2

KY Floyd — Mon, 28 May 2007 07:04:02 GMT

The way I see it, all she did was blow her credibility.

I agree. If you can't be accurate about a simple factual matter when somebody has offered a correction, why should anything else you say be considered reliable

Reply #1

GASMETERGUY — Mon, 28 May 2007 00:43:51 GMT

The purpose of that site is to help gamblers rid themselves of a terrible addiction; not to help them win the lotory. To that end, I have no problem with the way that site calculates the odds .

Not too long ago, I had a private conversation with another member on LP about this very same concept. While there may be 3,838,380 possible combinations they are still that; combinations.

With that in mind ( combinations ) the fact is we are guessing not once but 6 times and each guess must be c... [ More ]

You make the call...

Coin Toss — Mon, 28 May 2007 00:20:01 GMT

I'm on a Yahoo group that addresses problem gamblers.

Recently, someone on the group posted this:

If there are 40 balls and 6 are chosen, 40 possible numbers can

come up first, leaving 39 that can come up second, then 38, 37, 36, and

35 on the final number. To find out how many numbers that is, multiply

40 39 38 37 36 35 = 2,763,633,600,making the odds

2,500,000,000 to 1.

So I replied to that:

That's not quite right. In games more than 40 balls to choose from... [ More ]