Paranoid or Prudent?

Reply #90

KY Floyd — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:57:43 GMT

How do you change something that never even happened? If there never was a drawing with one set of balls, then holding a drawing with another set of balls simply produces the results for that set, period. They choose a set of balls and have a drawing. The balls that are selected determine the winning numbers. Its that simple

Reply #89

Todd — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:31:06 GMT

The reason they change them is to make sure they are not worn down -- and hence different . They should not wait until they are worn down before replacing them.

After decades of measuring how long lottery balls last, they can pretty accurately predict how long they can wait before replacing them.

Ideally, states would replace them before there is any difference. Whether that happens or not is another story.

Reply #88

irondoor827 — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:40:58 GMT

Todd thanks for the input....but ...if changing the Balls did not change the output then their would be little point in changing them....(2) there are no exact duplicates and (3)

How often are the ballsets changed?

For Lotto there are three sets of ballsets and are changed every three months. For Take Five and Pick 10 there are also three ballsets and they are changed every two months. Numbers and Win 4 are changed every month (both the midday and evenin... [ More ]

Reply #87

Wintariofan — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:58:03 GMT

Thanks for posting about Garron Plastic Inc. They are also a wholesaler as well for Ryo-Catteau, who have a lottery manufacturing website. The two manufactureres in the USA are Smartplay and Beitel, who probably make the equipment for Powerball. In Canada, most lotteries with the exception of Loto-Quebec use Ryo-Catteau. A set of 1-49 balls at Ryo-Catteau is about 13,000 $$ CDN. A machine is about $90.000 CDN.

Reply #86

Wintariofan — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:54:06 GMT

Amen ! I totally agree Todd, I have sat in on too many lottery draws to know that nothing but luck alone can make a ticket a winner. It's what gets me angst all the time, hearing people who think there are spies or an infiltrator trying to purposely overthrow the draw. :) It's the ODDS only that are against you, nothing else. Although you can improve your chances with a system, you always have a bunch of other numbers in the way of it.

I often get asked if I am a lottery official a... [ More ]

Reply #85

four4me — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:53:37 GMT

Here are a couple lottery product makers in the USA.

i have done work for Garron and worked with a few guys who worked for them. In the old days the ball making process was crude at best but today they are made to exacting standards and are of the highest quality.

These companies make the pick 3/4 and some match 5 balls and equipment.

i am not sure who makes the equipment and balls for the mega million and powerball. These ball are a different size and made from some kind of rubberized

Reply #84

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Reply #83

Todd — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:21:17 GMT

So you think a set of lottery balls is different? As far as I know (and have seen) they are carefully weighed and measured to all be the same. That's why they're so expensive. I do not believe changing them out will change anything on your end.

Reply #82

irondoor827 — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:07:46 GMT

Todd , I f lottery officials changed the Balls which they do and hd different machines which drew the balls that would keep them legal but hurt our chances of winning;

In New york I think they change pick 3 and pick 4 game balls every 15 days and have 4 sets each of balls ;

the cash 5 and pick 10 games are changed about 1 each month;

that would alter the results of any system

Reply #81

mylollipop — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:40:36 GMT

I would keep my game strategy to a closed group @ LP if I could, otherwise, I do believe that the winnings would STOP. If I were the business people that the Lotto Folks obviously are, I would not want to be in the red! because too many people were beating the odds.

Reply #80

mylollipop — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:37:36 GMT

Hmmmmnnnn. I get your point.

Reply #79

mylollipop — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:33:20 GMT

P r u d e n t

Reply #78

Todd — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:34:16 GMT

If you search the 7+ years of archives here, you will see many people who have posted similar negative statements about the lottery. I don't see anything you have posted that has not been posted before.

Reply #77

rubblehead — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:35:10 GMT

I contibute more than you know.

Reply #76

Guru101 — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:40:42 GMT

You're right. I just read his response to this thread:

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/158551/857763

It reads:

The guy at the store works with the lottery commision!

The clerk at the store called in and suggested we let this guy win!

The lottery was monitoring the store by camera and video taped the whole episode thats why he won!

Someone in the line worked or knew someone at the lottery office and called on their cell phone and said let the guy win!

?

I... [ More ]

Reply #75

pacattack05 — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:18:42 GMT

...lool...but when you got to the Alien part.....well....I just don't know for sure.

I simply can't believe that we are the only animated objects in the universe. Surely there must be more....?....and don't call me shirley...lol

Just snatching humans away at an alarming rate....lol

The vast numbers of galaxies assures a wide variety of picks....lol

And the Aliens have their first pick of the litter....lol

Reply #74

Todd — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:04:08 GMT

I think you're giving rubblehead way too much credit. I think he's just one of those people constantly looking over his shoulder for the aliens that are about to snatch him away. My bet is that he will never contribute in a positive way to any thread on the the forums. Any takers

Reply #73

phileight — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:11:22 GMT

pac attack

My reference to people taking other's idea and profiting from them was a reference to other posts where people complained of such actions. my point was that there are corrupt people in every walk of life. if these people can find a way to put money in thier pocket they will. Keeping it out of yours is already accompolished by low payouts and locking out numbers whose payout would be excessive. they need a few winners to keep us hooked.

I agree with you that at some point in t... [ More ]

Reply #72

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Reply #71

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Reply #70

RJOh — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 04:09:07 GMT

I hate to sound cynical, but my guess is that any lottery prediction is really just voo-doo science, and if somebody wins using this voo-doo science, it is because of luck. (I would just love to have somebody CONSISTENTLY prove me wrong on this matter!)

ArtVandalay

You're not the first to join LP looking for lottery experts to help win a jackpot. Experts like Gail Howard and Steve Players have their own websites and charge for their services. LP members are just ordinary folks who like... [ More ]

Reply #69

Guru101 — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 03:50:54 GMT

RubbleHead, I think your mindset that the lottery is rigged is a result of you're not winning a jackpot. You've probably been playing the lottery for years, and how so sweet it would be to plunk down a couple bucks and win the lottery just so you could live the cushy life. I don't think you realize how LUCKY the people that win the lottery are. Let me give you an example of how lucky these people are:

You have just left a bar and you are drunk. Walking down the side walk, someone asks you if... [ More ]

Reply #68

ArtVandalay — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 03:05:23 GMT

Okay, I'm going to say something here that will probably cause me to get a lot of criticism. I've been playing lotteries for about six years now. The lotteries that I favor are the PowerBall (preferably a PB lottery pool) and the Arizona Pick 6 (after it gets up to about $2mill). I make enough money to live a comfortable middle class life style, but it's my desire to retire early in life, never to work again. And I've looked at and studied the AZ Pick 6 (and the PB) lottery every which way that... [ More ]

Reply #67

rubblehead — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:52:48 GMT

rubblehead

I was not the first to suggest that the lottery was cheating,

I just enhanced it is all

Reply #66

rubblehead — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:42:07 GMT

EXACTLY

Reply #65

LuckyLilly — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:37:25 GMT

I don't think finding out the lottery is rigged would be quite as bad as like finding out there's no god. lol Sure people would be ticked, there might be some lawsuits. But they will fire some high-level dupe(s), they will say it was never the policy of the lottery commission to rig the drawings, the govt would say they fixed the system, set it up with checks and balances so it will never happen again. And we'd be right back there playing, hoping to catch the big one.

That's exactly what... [ More ]

Reply #64

rubblehead — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:58:49 GMT

OK I will try to get off the subject of the lottery being corrupt, but just for the record. Lets say there was some factual proof, you know like a tape recorded meeting between all the lottery directors and on the tape it talks about how they are fixing the game tonight! Would that be enough to convince anyone? Probably not, because people can not get it out of their mind that one day they are going to win that big ol JACKPOT!

The lottery being rigged would be like a Christian finding out th... [ More ]

Reply #63

Todd — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:54:46 GMT

You turned it into a rant about how the lotteries are all corrupt, so no, this is not just a thread about whether or not lotteries are monitoring Lottery Post.

People who believe like you do tend to be angry and tend to register a membership for the sole purpose of complaining. As I said before, I don't think you'll like it here much.

Reply #62

Uncle Jim — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:39:53 GMT

@jarasan

<>You are indeed right! I stand corrected. I didn't see that was a free ticket. WOW! Winning a free quick pick and then winning on that quick pick takes even more skill than buying one.

And you are correct again.we all know that judges, police, doctors and indeed lottery officials can be corrupt.

I simply maintian that when you see all the stories about lottery corruption...across state lines and international boundires...you must begin to question the integrity of lotterie... [ More ]

Reply #61

rubblehead — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:33:35 GMT

Todd I understand what you are saying but this particular chat or discusion is simply about wheather the lottery is monitoring this site CORRECT!

When you start talking about MONITORING a forum you must know above all people that a topic as this one would eventually have some things mentioned about the corruption of the lottery in it.

If this was a topic called what was your best day or happiest moment winning the lottery . My whole additude would be different. I might very well be... [ More ]

Reply #60

pacattack05 — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:26:49 GMT

You are one delusional person. Get a grip...lol

Reply #59

jarasan — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:22:58 GMT

Hey Uncle Jim, that 5 of 6 Quick Pick was free look at it closely, it is a promotion they had this month buy 3 get one free. I don't QP. But I my point was that they didn't have to give me a ticket, much less a 5 of 6. DC is computer drawn.

As far as skill goes, that was kinda of an uninformed not factually correct statement, double check your facts. A picture is worth a thousand words.

We all know that judges, police, doctors, etc. can be corrupt, human nature. But sooner or later... [ More ]

Reply #58

pacattack05 — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:21:22 GMT

There's a code to everything that involves energy and motion. And everything in between. And it can be broken.

Just because we can't solve the code at the present time doesen't mean it doesen't exist. It's just our temporary inabilty to find an answer to this enigma. Maybe one day...lol

How crazy would have you looked if you had a time machine and went back a thousand years telling everyday folk about the internet? That's sort of breaking the code. An invention that blew the minds of the m... [ More ]

Reply #57

emilyg — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:14:00 GMT

What gives? We're having a discussion and expressing out thoughts.

Comparing a plane full of people with a lottery drawing is insane.

Do you have me confused with someone else? Nowhere on this post did I say I'm winning.

What games do you play

Reply #56

Todd — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:11:50 GMT

Rubblehead,

I don't think you'll like Lottery Post very much. It's made for people who enjoy playing the lottery. The members who post here are generally people who enjoy playing the lottery. May I suggest you find a forum that specializes in complaining about things

Reply #55

Uncle Jim — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:10:43 GMT

@phileight:

I would encourage you to do a bit of research on scandals yourself. I didn't go into great detail because of time and space. To address your point...you are at least partially correct...none of the scandals I mentioned were directly related to blocking numbers so no one would win. However...

1. In the Foreman scandal in Indiana the game was rigged so that friends of Mr. Foreman (a Hoosier Lottery Security Guard) would purchase the winning ticket. By default that means someb... [ More ]

Reply #54

Badger — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:58:11 GMT

I really doubt that anyone will ever crack the code for P3 and P4, because there is no code. The best you can do is develope systems that either work well for a period of time and then go to sleep, only to come back again later at some time....or use statistics in ways that help reduce the odds that are against you. In the end, though, ....well.....I think my signature says it.

Reply #53

rubblehead — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:57:09 GMT

emilyg, from your many post I have seen on lottery post I can see you are a real sweet person. And a real encourager. Yet, despite your niceness.

I walked into a store 3 different occasions and played $5 and the computer gave me back a $20 dollars coupon complements of the lottery! all in a months time. And 1 night 4 numbers right I spent $1 and got 4 right. in the same month.

Also 1 night 3 numbers right and also $9 bucks on another night, On all these I think I spent maybe $20 bucks to... [ More ]

Reply #52

Uncle Jim — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:53:29 GMT

...because they simply don't have the paitence to learn and then play...

I suppose knowing when and where to buy a quick pick constitutes learning how to play. I bet that skill took years of practice to perfect.

And I'm not angry with you. To the contrary I'm thrilled that you are winning money. I like to see people win money playing the lottery. In fact I'd like to see more people win money playing the lottery. That's my whole point.

People cannot win money when scratch off g... [ More ]

Reply #51

pacattack05 — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:52:30 GMT

I was with you up until this point you made...

are some members of LP corrupt and try to profit from other peoples work?

People only profit from others willing to have their workout made public. I don't see your point...

Reply #50

phileight — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:45:51 GMT

The original post basically asked does the lotteries monitor what is said and manipulate thier games so you can't win. They have no reason to even try. they already have rules in place to cut of any number comb whose payout would exceed a set amount.

Are some lottery officials corrupt? are some members of LP corrupt and try to profit from other peoples work? are some local elected officials corupt?

The answer of course is YES. There are corrupt people everywhere

None of the corrupt... [ More ]

Reply #49

jarasan — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:36:29 GMT

Yes, and I apologize UncleJim. Please forgive me. Please don't be angry with me. The lotteries are rigged. You are not a loser. Facts are facts.

As far as few bucks go, there isn't enough space on this thread for this past months winners. Let me show you another, this one is a rigged quick pick.

P.S. I don't work for the lottery the lottery works for me.

Happy Fourth of July

Reply #48

Uncle Jim — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:19:39 GMT

Oh look! A Front page Lottery Post news story about New Mexico retailers filing a lawsuit against the New Mexico Lottery for unfair practices!

Hmmmm? These aren't players. They're retailers. How can they be disruntled losers?

That makes 9 states and counting!

Tell me again that all lotteries are on the up and up...PLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEE...

Jim

Reply #47

Uncle Jim — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:10:04 GMT

In my post I documented 8 different states (Colorado, Minnesota, Oregon, North Carolina, Indiana, Florida, Texas and New Jersey) where lottery Directors, high officials or lottery employees...not to mention G-Tech the world's largest lottery vendor...have either resigned, been fired or are under indictment for charges relating to scandal, corruption or other wrong doing in their respective state lotteries. I believe that 41 states have lotteries. That means nearly 1 in 5 states have documented... [ More ]

Reply #46

emilyg — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:29:20 GMT

and definitely NOT in ga.

Reply #45

jarasan — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:24:14 GMT

The nanny nay sayers, who imply the lotteries are rigged, are simply frustrated people that have never won jack, because they simply don't have the patience to learn and then play. So what do they do? They come here and tell us the lotteries are rigged, that is all.

The nanny nay sayers think, by them simply plunking down a couple of bucks they should win a jackpot. Well nanny nay sayers, you gotta work and use your brains, learn the games, and do something other than criticize some mi... [ More ]

Reply #44

Uncle Jim — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:44:40 GMT

You're dealing with the dirtiest industry I've ever seen in my 30 years of doing business...

-former Kentucky Lottery CFO Russ Davidson as quoted in the Atlanta Journal Constitution

While this remark has no context attached to it, I do believe it generally reflects the nature of the Lottery industry in the United States and indeed worldwide.

I joined Lottery Post in good faith just as I played the Lottery in good faith. But my experience with a... [ More ]

Reply #43

four4me — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:16:02 GMT

The pick 3 and 4 drawing don't have a cap large enough for a lottery personal to rig a drawing. The person rigging the game has too much to lose. Besides that it would take a group of people or more to pull off such a drawing. The stakes are to high for those particular individuals.

Most lottery personal and their immediate family members can't even play the games in many states.

This rigging theory has been discussed many times. Do a search on this if you care to read the hundreds of co... [ More ]

Reply #42

rubblehead — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:51:03 GMT

If there is one thing I must give Todd credit for is his everlasting consistancy I've seen in just a short time on being on lotterypost in petitioning against the computerized drawings.

But I think he knows as well as anyone its going to happen regardless!

Soon all the states will be computerized!

In otherwords NOT RANDOM AT ALL~

Now do you all see the FUTURE!

Now do you see their GOAL, their agenda? Why woukld an honest organization do that? Tell me again their not crooks! M... [ More ]

Reply #41

jarasan — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:03:21 GMT

You go rubblehead, that is the beauty of free speech, but Todd is right.

Happy 4th of July

Reply #40

rubblehead — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:26:34 GMT

Look let me put it to you straight! I am not here to win points, I am not here to make friends, nor kiss up to Todd. He has a great site.

Nor am I here to put anyone down. I simply speak my mind. I do not care if you made 10 mil dollars last year or 10 dollars. Your wit or wisdom or stupidity or foolishness belongs to you individually, unless you stole it from someone. In that case I am not concerned if you are a thief or liar or a complete lunitic.

I have my beliefs about the organizati... [ More ]

Reply #39

Todd — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:55:10 GMT

Those news reports you hear are about lottery officials making money illigally for themselves, not risking their lives so that a government agency could prosper!

Not to mention you're mixing apples and oranges. There has never been a news report that relates to this topic here. If there was then please point me to it.

To my knowledge, there has never been a reported incident of a lottery official trying to adjust games in any manner so that a system would not win. Probably because n... [ More ]

Reply #38

Fibonacci — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 11:06:31 GMT

Now that one is paranoia. Not that Todd needs my vote but i don't think it makes sense that Todd works with the officials in any official capacity. It does make sense to me that as the owner/steward of the best ite on lottery on the WWW, they would approach him thru back channels to keep track of a member who shows too much promise... Ok it's a joke folks ( or is it?).

As I said it does not make sense to have a site that has tools that can make people genuinely win the lottery and be a lotte... [ More ]

Reply #37

Fibonacci — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 10:58:54 GMT

Good logical brain teaser...It might take some a while to get it. A good save would be: I believe nothing that Todd believes except when he believes what I believe/write.

Reply #36

RJOh — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:56:41 GMT

Hi everyone this is Rubblehead. As the name suggest I am not very smart.

from rubblehead's first post.

Would you still believe what you post if Todd believed it too

Reply #35

rubblehead — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:23:29 GMT

I'm sorry Todd I like the site but I dont believe anything you believe.

Reply #34

pacattack05 — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 01:16:15 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPj1Mz-T7zo

LOL...........

Reply #33

pacattack05 — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:30:21 GMT

The lottery is not an evil empire or something.

I think you've been watching Battlestar Galactica way too long now....LOL

Reply #32

Badger — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:10:13 GMT

Fibonacci wrote

e.g. I used to have a very good system for winning pairs in the pick3--almost every other day I hit the pairs -front or back , and in some cases the pairs pointed me to straight hits.

Since posting a lot about the power of pairs--the pair tree dried up. For more than 9 months a system that helped me to predict winning pairs every other day has not produced a single win. How can i not be paranoid?

There are many systems that work for awhile then stop working. But more... [ More ]

Reply #31

Todd — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:39:55 GMT

Awesome!

I've been acused by a few people in the past of working with the lotteries because sometimes I stick up for them, but in reality I just like to use common sense. The lottery is not an evil empire or something. They're just a group of people running some games, and they need to be sure that they make a profit at the end of the day. Thinking that they would commit fraud to achieve would take an enormous leap in logic.

Reply #30

Todd — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:26:14 GMT

Uh ... the lottery is not checked ? The lottery is one of the most checked government organizations. Some use two different independent auditors to check (audit) them.

They check not just finances, but the workings and measurements of the equipment, as well as security.

I'll repeat here that I think the one area that really suffers is computerized drawings. Because there is no foolproof way to audit the workings of a computer program, computerized drawings are the Achilles heel of ev... [ More ]

Reply #29

psykomo — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:01:28 GMT

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Reply #28

RJOh — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:11:24 GMT

If the people on LP posted predictions every day that were actually played with real money and produced multiple winners, that would be different.

If LP predictors posted predictions that produced winners every day somebody would be playing them using real money.

Reply #27

justxploring — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:51:21 GMT

irondoor827 writes: The New York lottery does keep track of numbers played ,I see no reason why they would not monitor this site or any web page to follow those numbers they know will either have an historical following or come with regularity on a specific date or when the lottery knows a tripple would cost them a huge payout;

I usually like to respond to someone who quotes or addresses me in a post, but I think Guesser answered this for

Reply #26

Stack47 — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:25:41 GMT

Long before the states got involved in the lottery there was a numbers game and when they began the Pick-3s, the people booking the numbers game used the state drawn number and never missed a beat. As players we don't think in terms like volume and house edge but when the house edge is 50% it's almost a no lose situation for the bookies.

With Pick-6 lottos, Powerball, and Mega Millions, it's a known fact more people play, more money is spent by the regular players, and the volume goes up when... [ More ]

Reply #25

guesser — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:21:50 GMT

Todd, if they wanted to, they could 'monitor' all they want, but the bottom line is, so far, I have not seen anyone show any 100% golden across-the-board way of picking ALL of the numbers for any lottery, just ideas or theories to point someone in a direction.

If anyone had a way of really cracking it, then that person would win it repeatedly, don't you think ?

And beyond that, if 'Bob' said 1-2-3-4-5-6 was going to hit, and 'Chuck says 7-8-9-10-11-12 was going to hit, and 'Carol' said 13... [ More ]

Reply #24

RJOh — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:53:17 GMT

If one was paranoid about discussing publicly anything about picking lottery numbers then one would be prudent by not posting at LP. People post at LP because they have something to say and they want others to to read it, to say other wise is nonsense.

Lotteries plan to payout a certain amount of their sales as prizes to attract more players. Both games that don't attract players and games that don't make a profit are losers for the states so they are always looking for a balance between th... [ More ]

Reply #23

irondoor827 — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:05:26 GMT

xploring I agree when you say some systems go great for a while then dry up ;

I'ts like the song I've been searching - (gleen Jones) .

We all search for a winner within ourselves and the so called system is a method used to produce a few bucks in our pockets ;

The New York lottery does keep track of numbers played ,I see no reason why they would not monitor this site or any web page to follow those numbers they kno... [ More ]

Reply #22

rubblehead — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:45:16 GMT

I dont think its about getting the numbers as much as figuring out how the software works that runs the lottery.

I was talking to this guy the other day who was a hacker and he said, his college had invented a password encription program where they could figure out someones password easier by knowing their last name.

It turns out if you know a persons last name you can figure out how they think and then their password alot easier.

He said people with the same last name think along the... [ More ]

Reply #21

fja — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:17:38 GMT

I am not as paranoid about lottery officials on this site. If I sell Real Estate I want to see how my business is doing, I check the Market, I'll check and see what the public is saying. If I sell scratch offs, I would come into to scratch off games and see what's popular, whats working, what are the big complaints.....

I would use this site to see what the public is saying....see what would make it better....

I think that there are to many people using to many different systems, coveri... [ More ]

Reply #20

rubblehead — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:16:48 GMT

Hi everyone this is Rubblehead. As the name suggest I am not very smart.

Anyhow I am brand new and am reading all the post here. And came across this one.

I will throw my two sence in the dish see what its worth here.

No one ever checks the lottery out anyway right? Do they? How would we know if they were cheating.

I dont think they are a fraid of jail at all! They probably run the jail, and the govenor would call the shots on that one anyways right?

Big deal, Jail! Big stin... [ More ]

Reply #19

Lkydeb*594 — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:00:45 GMT

Todd, I'm glad u replied as I was feeling very paranoid about posting my numbers lately after reading your opinion, I feel much better not paranoid anymore. I'm sure others r feeling the same. Just wanted to say thank u.

Reply #18

Todd — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:01:02 GMT

I've heard that one a thousand time too. They'll get rid of the game if we talk about how we beat it. They'll get rid of Pick 3 or Pick 4?? Do you honestly believe that? They are the staple of the lottery industry.

All the theorizing about the mysterious lottery people snooping around to see what systems people are using so they can defeat them is pure fantasy. I guess you can call that my opinion, but I've also had enough experience dealing with the lotteries to feel that I am on so... [ More ]

Reply #17

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:34:39 GMT

i've had time to think so i guess my answer to your question is i'm paranoid,

Reply #16

Raven62 — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:38:12 GMT

Not Even Yourself

Reply #15

manzplan — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:09:34 GMT

here in Canada it always seems the people in Ontario or Quebec win instead of where I am at in Alberta...... however he did have the largest Canadian Lottery win in Alberta a couple years back.... and the reason for more winners in Ontario and Quebec is a matter of odds ...... more people there.....

However on another level I prefer to when I can buy my Lottery Tickets in Edmonton instead of the rural community we live in with it's one gas station where everyone would know someone won here...... [ More ]

Reply #14

four4me — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:06:50 GMT

The protocols and methods by which the lottery operates is set up like an insurance policy they make money no matter what. If a number is bet to the amount of their threshold they cut the number off.

Thousands of people win every day. Even more lose. The state is in a win, win situation. No system can repeatedly win money on a daily basis.

We as players have no way of knowing which machines or ball sets they are using for any particular drawing.

The lottery will never stop drawing pic... [ More ]

Reply #13

truecritic — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 05:27:43 GMT

Coin Toss

Wouldn't it be funny if Lottery Officials found a way to beat your hypothetic-make-believe-big-win-system by some mysterious way. And the drawing results actually swing in favor of the regular lottery players, not using that system, resulting in the most winners for a single drawing ever

Reply #12

Coin Toss — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:35:01 GMT

Todd

Back a page you said:

How exactly does a lottery official stay ahead of a system? Are you saying that they go into the back room and make the games more random? Like spinning the balls around the drum a few extra times?

The reason I don't subscribe to these conspiracy theories is they never really give any specifics about how a lottery official would cheat (which in itself would be pretty stupid of them, as they would go to jail once caught.)

I'm not think... [ More ]

Reply #11

Fibonacci — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:30:19 GMT

As someone who tends to rely on science, logic and evidence before forming even tentative opinions/conclusions, I do agree. I think it does make sense however that the Lottery officials do OpRes

-opposition research...although I believe the non-computerized games are fairly random they would want to stay ahead of clearly discernible patterns or at least be aware of them. I would do the same if I was running that kind of official --er scheme, too.

Conspiracy-no. Studying the opposition-ye... [ More ]

Reply #10

time*treat — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:52:09 GMT

@ Fibonacci: You are being absolutely prudent.

With many of the states either doing computer drawings or pre/post tests , there is no reason to believe, with so much money involved, that if an outside system showed high corelation with the official results, that no changes whatsoever would be made to the number selection process.

Anyone who would suggest otherwise would also have you believe

there is no such thing as insider trading in the stock market (just ask Martha :-)).you won... [ More ]

Reply #9

Greg — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:32:25 GMT

Trust No One!

-The X-Files

Reply #8

pacattack05 — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:22:22 GMT

Uncle Albert....,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrYyWjJ9dG8

Broken wings....,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWyeVfuolT4

Reply #7

pacattack05 — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:51:02 GMT

The officials have absolutely nothing to worry about, as of yet.

After a pre-test or two, rotating tubes, it'll be as random as possible. They make sure thet do away with any possible examination of a particular tube's history.

And BTW, Pre-tests do absolutely nothing in preventing future breakdowns. Infact, they accelerate the process. There is no such thing as perpetual motion, thus the more you use it, the sooner it will eventually break down. Obviously, they're playing dumb and trying... [ More ]

Reply #6

jarasan — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:17:28 GMT

Paranoia deep destroyer Once again the Kinks rule the day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXv5UsSLIiA

The Kinks.

Reply #5

Todd — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:13:50 GMT

I would like to ask a question about one thing you said:

Then I read a disturbing post suggesting that Lottery offivcials post as members on forums like these and basically try to stay ahead of any systems that appears to generate consistent wins.

How exactly does a lottery official stay ahead of a system? Are you saying that they go into the back room and make the games more random? Like spinning the balls around the drum a few extra times?

The reason I don't subscribe to these... [ More ]

Reply #4

Coin Toss — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:12:46 GMT

Call it prudently paranoid!

PS

If you ran a lottery wouldn't you have at least one person assigned to montoring this board? Makes a lot of sense.

Reply #3

bambini — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:51:35 GMT

No matter how paranoid you think you might be, you are not paranoid enough. X-Files

Reply #2

justxploring — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:48:47 GMT

Why wouldn't lottery officials monitor this website?

Maybe because like the rest of us he wants to chill out and have fun when he gets home and is off the clock? I don't know too many State employees who would care.

IMHO, if anybody did decide to monitor a lottery web site, it probably wouldn't be to checkout the systems on it, only to look for any illegal activity. This is just a friendly discussion group where people share ideas. If someone began to win an inordinate number of gam... [ More ]

Reply #1

stavros — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:22:49 GMT

Fibonacci.....I have also thought the same thing. Why wouldn't lottery officials monitor this website? I have also seen systems and ideas work for quite awhile and then just dry up. Coincidence, paranoia? Who knows? Prudence can be a good thing.

Paranoid or Prudent?

Fibonacci — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:06:26 GMT

When initially came to LP I was excited. I dove in and started posting all my (sometimes) crazy theories until I learned from the real pros here and started being more measured and judicious in my contributions. I was still quick wqith my observations for winnings as is everyone else.

Then I read a disturbing post suggesting that Lottery offivcials post as members on forums like these and basically try to stay ahead of any systems that appears to generate consistent wins.

To be frank... [ More ]