Please Advise!

Reply #29

lottolaughs — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:03:05 GMT

Hi there! Thanks for the compliments. My very best advice would be to stick with Formula #1 and Formula #4. I think I mentioned before that these usually produce the winners more often then #2 and #3.

Further backtesting can help you get it down to one string (out of those 2) and stick with it. Then you will be able to work with it and perhaps be able to eliminate more numbers. One string is all you need. Sooner or later the winners (all 5) will be in there.

Reply #28

knowwhen2play — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:11:15 GMT

His strings theory kicks most systems in the butt...including GH.

If only he would come up with a way to fiquire which of the many numbers where the winners then he would be supreme. That's the only problem here.

Just think there's 39 numbers in Ca Fantasy 5 with the strings you have most of time about 22 numbers which contain all 5 or 4 of then winning numbers no less. Then take 39-22=17 numbers you don't have to bother with...because you know most of them are losers....that's damm good.... [ More ]

Reply #27

joon — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:21:26 GMT

lottolaughs, your wacky string looks promissing . but without the right wheel it is not possible to play so many lines. i have been using the free version of lottomania to wheel my numbers and it does a pretty good job doing it the only thing is free version limits you to only 15 numbers .

Reply #26

knowwhen2play — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:55:02 GMT

Lottolaughs,

I'm no expert on threads...but let's start with examples.

There are High and low trends.

There are Midrange and extreme end.

There's odd and even.

There are trends for the sums.

There are laws that govern the numbers themselves....Like there's rarely ever a lotto ticket with 5-10-15-20-25 as the winning numbers nor 2-4-6-8-10 or 1-3-5-7-9. There's plenty more unlikely combinations. You could call this filtering but a filter is after you make up a wheel. But... [ More ]

Reply #25

lottolaughs — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:48:41 GMT

Great! I'm so glad you got it. Now run with it,knowwhen2play!

You are correct when you state that the order you place them in the wheel has an effect on the outcome. I hope you read that other thread I gave you where I do indeed show one way of mixing them up.

I really don't pay attention to anything else but coming up with the right numbers using my wacky ways and a calculator mostly, hence I've never studied trends. Perhaps you've discovered the missing link.

How would I go about pu... [ More ]

Reply #24

knowwhen2play — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:55:09 GMT

Thanks. Lottolaughs.

I fiquired it out last night when going over one of your threads you sent me.

I jumped with excitement because I'm really excited to see how I can make you system work for me.

I used the GH 4 chart with my wheel of about 54 games as a test run. I checked'em out with past drawings and I got a lot of 3 wins and 4 wins even got a five. I found it's better to mix the numbers up before you wheel them. The order you place them does have an effect on the outcome.... [ More ]

Reply #23

knowwhen2play — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:54:56 GMT

Thanks. Lottolaughs.

I fiquired it out last night when going over one of your threads you sent me.

I jumped with excitement because I'm really excited to see how I can make you system work for me.

I used the GH 4 chart with my on wheel of about 54 games as a test run. I checked'em out with past drawings and I got a lot of 3 wins and 4 wins even got on five. I found it's better to mix the numbers up before you wheel them. The order you place them does have an effect on the outco... [ More ]

Reply #22

lottolaughs — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:57:44 GMT

I think sometimes this looks harder then it really is,knowwhen2play. I will write it out as simply as I can for you here.

Let's take Tues. and Wed. draws now. Put them in numeric order.

2 4 8 10 17 27 30 35 37

First formula (s +1+2)

Take the 2, you will keep it the (s)same and add 1 and 2 to it. So that gives us 2 3 and 4, right? Take the 4, keep it the same and add 1 and 2 to it so we wind up with 4 5 and 6. Same with the 8, it would be 8 9 and 10,etc. all through the... [ More ]

Reply #21

knowwhen2play — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:27:52 GMT

Lottolaughs,

I'm not getting your system...

here's an example of your formula.....First you take your last 2 drawings in your state's game and write them out in numerical order. I will use a pick 5/39 game as an example. Of course, if you use this for 6/49 and up games you will be left with more numbers but I can give a shortened version if anyone is interested. For now we'll use the 5/39.

Say your last 2 drawings were 2 7 12 14 23 and 1 8 22 35 37. Write them in order... [ More ]

Reply #20

time*treat — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:52:22 GMT

I'd say you have the beginnings of a great filter. That's a fine start.

Getting all the relevant stats on a P5 can be tough by pen paper. 575,757 combs for a 39C5 game.

Since CA draws their P5 by RNG and has been known to have biases in their drawings, I'd start there.

They have a great easy-to-use download database of past drawings. Coding seems the way to go.

Reply #19

Stack47 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:21:39 GMT

You see the winners there and it looks so easy. But, oh no! Now you've got to pluck them out and wheel them within a reasonable budget.

Even though I use a much different method of sorting the 39 numbers, I have the same problem. It's hard enough to trap 5 numbers out of 16 and unless you're incredibly lucky, you're only guaranteed one 3 playing a 3if5 wheel so you have to at least play a 3if4 or a 3if3.

Even 10 numbers,you would have to play $252. Yikes!

And the rent goes up to $43... [ More ]

Reply #18

lottolaughs — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:28:25 GMT

Tues. results-- 2 10 27 35 37

Formula #1--(s +1 +2)

(1) 2 (3) 4 5 (8) 9 10 (12) 13 14 (15) 16 17 (25) 26 27 (31) 32 (33) (34) 35 36 (37) 38 39

Formula #1 was our big winner this evening. Formula #4 also contained all 5 BUT if we look at this one closer we will see you had a lot less numbers to deal with. If we had eliminated all the circled numbers it would have left us with 16 numbers. Still would've come up with a 4 spot here.

2 4 5 9 10 13 14 16 17 26 27 32 35 36 38 39... [ More ]

Reply #17

lottolaughs — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:48:04 GMT

Tonight,Monday's results were-- 9 10 11 13 15

As we can see only Formula #4 held all 5. No big deal really since there were 26 numbers altogether. Managed to eliminate 13 but we'll have to do a lot better then that! It's a start anyway.

Formula #4 --(+1 +2 +3)

(1) 2 (3) 4 5 6 9 10 11 13 14 (15) 16 17 18 26 27 28 32 (33) (34) 35 36 (37) 38 39

Only be a 4 spot if we had eliminated that repeat number. This is tricky business! I hope you read my other thread about how I br... [ More ]

Reply #16

lottolaughs — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:41:57 GMT

How are you doing down south there? I'm in Sacramento.

Using Fri. and Sat. draws, here would be the original formulas I've posted before. You always want to make sure you have a good mix of numbers, Sat. and Sun's had too many 30's numbers, even these do but they are better. It's okay to drop down a couple or so draws until you find 2 that are more balanced.

These are good for 10-14 days.

Fri and Sat draws in numeric order--

1 3 8 12 15 25 31 33 34 37

Formula #1--(s +1 +2... [ More ]

Reply #15

knowwhen2play — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 05:33:36 GMT

Hey, I'm in California.

I checked out yur strings thread seems like a few people verified it as working for them or they can see the basis of your theory/system.

Do you need to do heavy calculations to do this?

Could you make me up one of these strings for this week and then tell me how you did it in plain terms?

I want to be able to make my own up so I can begin to investigate it for myself. Thanks

Reply #14

lottolaughs — Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:07:29 GMT

Hi there..........

Don't know if you caught my strings threads--perhaps they could help you narrow down some more numbers. Do a little backtesting and see what happens.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/135538.htm

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/135880.htm

Good luck.

Reply #13

knowwhen2play — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:58:27 GMT

Hmmm...

I'm confused here...what is the benefit of playing 6-30 or 15-39?

I will give your idea some play next week when I have time to study how it works.

Reply #12

knowwhen2play — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:54:25 GMT

Yes, I've used chart 4 before and I did last time I played 50 bucks and got only twos right. I use this chart to find out which numbers are hot or going to land soon. But when I do the 22 numbers i play don't all land just two of them. I manage to have at least 10 free plays with about 40 game wheel. This is unsatisfactory because I'm not getting any money back. I would like to get some money back so I can fuel it to play for a bigger wheel or longer stretch play strategy. Can you give me an ex... [ More ]

Reply #11

knowwhen2play — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:48:11 GMT

You know I have never found this section until your post. Thanks. I've been doing the skips by hand. Yes I did notice now that 80% of the draw are past ten draws.

Is there a formula for playing these 50 or less numbers in a wheel...with adjustments every draw that would render some success

Reply #10

Koda3535 — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:31:56 GMT

Do you look at the numbers in the past 10 draws? It is the B chart and then F4 to look at more charts. For Ca 5 as of last night, 4 of the winning numbers are in the previous 10 draws nearly 40% of the time. Tonight all 5 numbers had hit within the past 10 draws.

I wish you the best of luck

Reply #9

Big Hitter — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:06:29 GMT

Try using chart D, Trailing Numbers. This chart will give you good information about numbers that are due to come out in the very next draw. Look for numbers that score high when they follow a particular number. For example, let's say you last 5/39 draw was 3 - 6 - 18 - 24 - 36 (not a REAL draw, just hypothetical) and chart D shows that the number 11 has trailed (hit in the very next draw) the number 24 fifteen times over the history of your game. The number 7 has trailed the number 24 three... [ More ]

Reply #8

jarasan — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:57:08 GMT

California is computerized Grade D.

My first suggestion is narrow your field down to only play between a total of 24 numbers always, for eg. only 6 thru 30 or 15 thru 39.

Next play a smaller set of 12 to 14 numbers, and use abbreviated/key wheels conserve your plays and test before you play. Keep the number of lines you play reasonable or you will get discouraged if you don't hit the first time. Test.

Hang on to the sets until you hit at least something or start seeing trends, rememb... [ More ]

Reply #7

sysp34 — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:20:36 GMT

well i dunno about Gail Howard, maybe you can combine with EL to find #'s because in last xx draws the result would be create a jackpot or combine with LP for instant data and excellent wheels

Abbrev 2 if 5 of 39392 if 525

the problem with wheels system is good for conditions / guarantee but due to the condition it will reduce the JACKPOT too for example i use Lottery Post for SG 6/45 4 if 6 of 27 with 243 tickets past result it give match 4 233 times and it give match 5... [ More ]

Reply #6

RJOh — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:44:12 GMT

California Fantasy 5 game is the same as any other state 5/39 game and you're not the first to discover that using Gail Howard software and charts doesn't give you an advantage over most other players. Winning any lottery game is a matter of luck and beating the odds. So far no one has come up with a way to improve the odds of winning without risking losing even more money. If you don't care about money limits and just wanna win the grand prize then dig deeper, spend more and be prepared to l... [ More ]

Reply #5

Greg — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:25:53 GMT

Have you consulted her accompanying manual and her book, LMG to utilize both her short and mid-term strategies?

Sometimes we can use too many charts, i.e. pieces of information, to assess which numbers are likely to hit. (Notice I did not say due to hit ).

The chart I almost use exclusively is Chart #4: with it I have hit 4 of 6 numbers about 8-10 times in the past two years. Tonight I had 3 of the 6.

In short, review all the suggested strategies, don't overrely on more than several... [ More ]

Reply #4

Stack47 — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:52:33 GMT

Here's my problem I have'nt been able to get more than two winning numbers into my wheel of about 22-26 sometimes vary in a win 3 if five.

You didn't say over how many draws but I'm guessing that in some draws you only had 1 number and sometimes none. This means most of the time, 3,4, or even 5 of the winning numbers were among the remaining 17. Why not use the method that picks the 22 numbers as a method to eliminate numbers

Reply #3

Badger — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:40:11 GMT

Frankly, I don't think there is a strategy you can use for this.....once a player gets into jackpot games (i.e. games more complex than Pick3/4) I personally think it is often counterproductive to keep changing your numbers for each draw if you are using a wheeling system.

The idea is to lay out the net (like your 22 numbers) and then you have to play what what you have wheeled daily (the same lines/numbers/combinations) and wait until the draw comes that fits your wheel. Changing your... [ More ]

Reply #2

knowwhen2play — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 05:19:42 GMT

That's a good answer.

Yet it still leaves me with another questions and that is what if two of the correct numbers are in the first 22 numbers wheeled and the other three are in the 17 numbers wheeled? That equals no win except my a 3 win minimum.

I can live with with the three win but what strategy can I use the trap all the numbers in the 22 number wheel?

That's the jackpot question.

Reply #1

orangeman — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 05:04:13 GMT

You answered your own question. Do your usual workout of 22 numbers and play the others that are left. Good solid contrarian thinking.

Orangeman

Please Advise!

knowwhen2play — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:00:22 GMT

Hey guys,

I've been seriously playing the California Fantasy Five using the Gail Howard pick five wheel software and the Advangtage plus. Here's my problem I have'nt been able to get more than two winning numbers into my wheel of about 22-26 sometimes vary in a win 3 if five. I use the charts and sometimes the smart pick but I can't get more than two winning numbers out of 22 numbers. There's only 39 in the whole game so that leave about 17 numbers left. So I'm playing more than half of the n... [ More ]