$1 QP vs $2 Your numbers and a QP

Reply #32

Coin Toss — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:53:43 GMT

Jarasan, do let us know...

I'm still getting the same type of Quick Picks paraleeling my picks- but they're not producing anything that pays (by design

Reply #31

jarasan — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:04:27 GMT

I am Coin Toss's self funding research assistant! I am going to try doing a similar test in MD. and see what happens this week.

Reply #30

justxploring — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 05:00:08 GMT

Sorry, Coin Toss. I forgot you started the thread, not Jarasan. I never thought it made any difference since I always use different cards for every ticket.

Reply #29

Coin Toss — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:17:56 GMT

Thanks for the replies- so it's not just Illinois.

Maybe it's just something inherent with the terminals, somehow, or like Jarasan explained.

Reply #28

ConstantlyB — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:06:55 GMT

I think so.....I've noticed the same thing. Therefore I put my personal picks on one slip and quick picks on separate slips. Call it crazy...but whatever works.

Reply #27

justxploring — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:32:40 GMT

Okay - can't tell if it's a coincidence, since I'm aware of this now, but it just happened to me. I played my regular numbers and then asked for 2 QPs ($52 million jackpot...so why not?)

There are 3 numbers that are the same and the 3 others are very close. The pattern for both QPs is almost identical to what I usually play.

Maybe you've gotten something here, Jarasan

Reply #26

jarasan — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:31:59 GMT

P.S. The reason it came to $13 I had $11 worth of winners from yesterday's QP experiment.

Reply #25

jarasan — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:55:29 GMT

Well if I didn't mention what happened today after buying DCDaily6 this topic may have ended but Coin Toss must know!

I won't post the tickets unless someone feels it necessary, but I bought my usual $15 DC6 30 lines, an abbreviated wheel 14 numbers, so my total with my P4's came to $13 so I asked for two PowerBall Quickie Picks for a total $15, the first PowerBall line had the first 3 digits of my wheel in order! 02, 06, 07!

Was it a coincidence? Was it interesting, peculiar? Two differen... [ More ]

Reply #24

jarasan — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:20:01 GMT

Ok here you go I haven't checked results but tonight I spent a little more time to examine what the machine gave versus the picks I made with 15 lines from a wheel.

I did a line to line check of my numbers versus the QP's generated, there were only 2 lines that had no numbers duplicated by the DCQPicker, there were 5 lines that had 1 number duplicated,there were 3 lines that had 2 numbers duped., and there is one line that had 4 numbers duplicated by the Qpicker!.

The last ticket I d... [ More ]

Reply #23

jarasan — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:32:22 GMT

The results were 11-18-19-21-29-31 BB 6

The LP RNG scored 19 hits $0

The DC QP RNG scored 31 hits with a single 3 of 6 for $2 net loss $18.

The first ticket had all 6 winning numbers on the first 4 lines and that is where the 3 of 6 is. As far as coming to any conclusion as to whether or not the numbers seed or follow is again a matter of opinion on this round. I think they do especially in the scenarios that Coin Toss describes. I think I will pick my own and use an abbreviated wheel

Reply #22

Coin Toss — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 05:50:52 GMT

I think, somehow, if you were to have a playslip with one set of your numbers and the next line marked QP the numbers on the QP line would tend to be a lot closer to the numbers you have chosen (if your numbers are first!). I'm not saying this happemns all the time, but it certainly happens often enough to be noticeable.

I think if you play it QP for Game A and your numbers for Game B it wouldn't matter.

Same scenario, Pick 5 game, $1 a line, if you had two playslips, one with number... [ More ]

Reply #21

justxploring — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 05:12:42 GMT

the scenario of buying your picks then the QP's seems to result in interesting number sequences, maybe peculiar is a better word

I was waiting for someone else to ask this, but this was my first thought when I first saw this topic:

How does the terminal know you are the player using your own numbers? Sounds as if you are saying that when a player uses a card with his own numbers, the terminal generates stranger or different combinations than when you just buy a QP or two. So ho... [ More ]

Reply #20

Todd — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:58:09 GMT

That's a bit beyond the scope of a Lottery Post tool, but all the data for that can easily be pulled into Excel, and you can do that in Excel.

Reply #19

CCHS13 — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:58:04 GMT

How about adding a RNG that picks from predictions mainly for the jackpot games

in an attempt to colaberate all those 3 out of 5 and 3/4 out of 6. 3 out of 5 is a pretty

consistent thing around LP

Reply #18

pacattack05 — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:19:49 GMT

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Reply #17

Todd — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:43:13 GMT

Grrr... that's why I was offering to make both available.

Reply #16

jarasan — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:58:13 GMT

OK here they are the tix every other line. I had to saturate the image heavily because they lottery terminal needs a new ribbon.

Looking at our lines and DC's QPs immediately after each line, I see less influence from our lines to the DC Qp's than yesterdays when we did every other 2 lines. There are alot of following pairs though. Ticket #3 has a lot of similar 30's.

Reply #15

auriel1 — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:13:15 GMT

Todd, I am a little confused. After your discussion of a new rng I did some qp's and the results were impressive.........if I had used the #'s generated and played them yesterday.

Since I really hadn't used it before is that your new system or old? Whatever it is I like it

Reply #14

Todd — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:18:39 GMT

That's a good question.

I personally believe the RNG used widely in programming -- the one with sequences of random numbers -- is not very good, because I believe it leads to overarching patterns.

However, what makes it a comparitively poor RNG may make it good for lotteries that use a similar RNG in their drawings. Perhaps the patterns in the numbers may match up with patterns in the actual draw. It's a stretch, but it's based on mathematical realities.

On the other hand, those who... [ More ]

Reply #13

RJOh — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:39:52 GMT

Since the internal workings of the RNG are invisible to the users, do they matter as long a the results are the most random they can be? Players generally chose a RNG to pick their combinations to avoid making any decisions. Would there be any way to decide which RNG is more random without knowing how they work

Reply #12

Todd — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:42:56 GMT

Your last paragraph is why I would consider keeping the old one available. I'm am sure you are not the only one to win using LP's Quick Picks. Some people may want to keep using it for that reason.

Thanks for the feedback

Reply #11

jarasan — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:24:29 GMT

Thank you for this information. Options are always nice, but if this new RNG is closer to true random , then I would say it is unnecessary to keep the old one.

I must add though the current RNG has produced some winning sets for me in the past when time was short to produce my own numbers! Thanks

Reply #10

Todd — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:45:49 GMT

I have developed a new random number generator that produces cryptographically strong random numbers, as opposed to the pseudo-random numbers generated currently.

The random number generator (RNG) Lottery Post currently uses is the same basic kind of RNG that programmers all over the world use. Inside the RNG, it starts with a seed number -- which is constantly changed -- and then derives a very long sequence of numbers, based upon calculations off of the seed number. When a new random numb... [ More ]

Reply #9

jarasan — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:12:39 GMT

Here is todays Lottery Post RNG 20 lines, I will fill out the slips every other line instead of every two and we'll see what comes forth.

Quick Picks Random Number Generator (RNG)Quick Picks Random Number Generator (RNG)

Your 20 6/39 tickets:

02 05 15 21 23 29

06 11 15 16 25 28

03 06 12 19 26 27

05 12 24 25 37 39

03 05 26 27 28 29

03 08 09 18 24 27

02 07 13 20 23 33

11 15 16 24 36 37

02 19 26 3... [ More ]

Reply #8

jarasan — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:06:25 GMT

OK The results were 2-11-16-27-30-31 BB 04

The score: LPRNG 12 hits, no money.

DCLottery QP's 27 hits, $5 winner ticket #8! Net loss $15.00. Better luck tommorrow night.

DC's Quickie Pick did better! We'll try again tommorrow with all things the same but every other line LP RNG then DC QP.

Reply #7

jarasan — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:50:11 GMT

OK. Here they are, it is easier to scan than type. Tommorrow I am going to do every other line instead of every 2 lines.

Can we discern anything from this? I believe tickets 1,5,6,9,10 are worth some discussion, what do think

Reply #6

Just6ntlc — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:05:08 GMT

That's a great random number generator.

Reply #5

jarasan — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:12:59 GMT

This subject has been discussed before, and it is a tough one to come to a conclusion of any useful meaning.

But I have to say the scenario of buying your picks then the QP's seems to result in interesting number sequences, maybe peculiar is a better word. Everytime I do a couple of QP's after my numbers the QP ALWAYS looks like a mutated version of what I just played.

There are knowledgable people here that will say Of course you'll have some of your numbers blah, blah, blah.. you know... [ More ]

Reply #4

KY Floyd — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:01:48 GMT

4% for the 0/5 and 5/0 combinations? Do you really expect us to believe that 4% of the winning combinations actually come from 4% of the possible combination? That's like expecting us to believe the results follow the laws of probability.

If the chances that your ticket with all odd numbers will win is slim, what are the chances that any other ticket with only 1 out of 145 million combinations will win? I'm guessing it's pretty close to 1 in 145 million.

Reply #3

guesser — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:43:32 GMT

I usually only devoutly play only my numbers and not QP's for a reason, and this morning my reason was further solidified.

Well, once in a great while I buy a QP, I bought one this AM, and I got 30-31-37-39-47, or something like that. OUCH.

The chances of an 0/5 split are not good, and the chances of 4 in a group are slimmer yet.

Split - 55 white balls split into two groups - 1-27, and 28-55. Usually the split is 2/3 or 3/2 about 68% of the time, with 4/1 or 1/4 making up about 28%, l... [ More ]

Reply #2

Just6ntlc — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:45:59 GMT

I usually play $1 with my own numbers regardless if it's MM or CA SLP.

Reply #1

Badger — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:43:00 GMT

If you have a Pick 6 game where you get 2 lines for a buck, it would be interesting to see if the same thing happens. I may try it here if I can remember.

$1 QP vs $2 Your numbers and a QP

Coin Toss — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:33:18 GMT

This happened to me yesterday on a 5/ 39 ticket, but it seems to do this on Pick 6 and MM too, so I'll put this here instrad of the Pick 5 forum.

I played a $2 ticket, the first line was numbers I had pocekd, the second was a QP.

It came out like this:

A. 06 09 22 23 25

B. 06 08 19 24 26

So considering the two, first digit, the same, then ( A to B) -1, -3, +1, +1.

So I'm wondering if you fill out a p[layslip with your numbers first, then a QP, if you aren'y maybe programm... [ More ]