Wheel Generator 1.5

Reply #50

RJOh — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:39:07 GMT

Not everyone using a computer to record and analyze their lottery data is at the mercy of their computers. The computer programs I use were written by me and they do what I would do if I was limited to using paper and pencil but faster. Putting my routines and thoughts into a computer program means I'm using my computer as a tool the same as I would use paper and pencil. Once I've included and debugged a routine in my programs, I can do it with any lottery I track after every drawings in seco... [ More ]

Reply #49

relowe — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:21:18 GMT

Hi bobby623

Sorry, but just have to respond to your comments.

1. Lotto Architect is proposing a wheeling program, not a prediction program. Thus by what ever method you choose to select some numbers if they are applied to a well constructed wheel the logic suggests you will optimise your prize results. And it would appear from the descriptions Lotto Architect has given of his wheel generator that it will produce very good wheels (outputs) and so it may well then be a very good tool to

Reply #48

psykomo — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:40:50 GMT

THANKssssssssssss derek7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thanks foe the translation.....a PSYKO has been post'n ^^^^^^

for (the lottery people catch on can change the payout's) almost/a/year!

I had to cut way back on the amount of wager as deck got>>>>>

really stacked!!

LOL

PSYKOMO... [ More ]

Reply #47

derek7 — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:13:57 GMT

On the other hand 2nd tier prizes are too low to really enjoy wheeling (I am not talking full wheels). For example $100 prize for 4if5 in Pick 5.

How often do I want to wheel 12 numbers and spend $36 to win $100 once in 7 years?

/Derek

Reply #46

bobby623 — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:18:43 GMT

I find it odd that given the anti-computer drawing mania that players would want to put their $$ in the hands of a computer.

I doubt if any of the available computer prediction programs are capable of examining lottery history in the manifold ways of the human mind.

I'm from the old school. I'm a paper and pencil player. I take the time to gather, log and analyze lottery results on a daily basis.

When I make lottery bets, they are my own. If I win, I pat myself on the back. If I lose,... [ More ]

Reply #45

lottoburg — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:58:35 GMT

Hi, friends:

I want to know which wheeling system is the best for Keno (10/20/80) in the world? Recently, I ordered Gail Howard's Keno Wheel software (Release 2.05). But I find it's too loosen to use unless you select lots power #s. I do hope the wheeling system can work smartly for fewer than 40 #s (selected from 80 #s) and NO POWER #s. Then It can make 20-50 games (or pay $20-$50 only) by using some smart Filtering Options such as Sums, Even/Odd, ...etc. I will great appreciate for any sin... [ More ]

Reply #44

Yukio — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:21:15 GMT

This is interesting.

I would like to buy a software with those utilities, but only if it is not much expensive.

Also, do you have the basic 2if2 and 3if3 systems?

I need the basic systems for 18-33 numbers.

Systems that would work with Keno (like the 2if2 system) would be welcome ...

Reply #43

psykomo — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:59:02 GMT

LANTERN:

I like people to @ least JUMP in and vote>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!

I voted MABY,........because YOU really have to put a product on the

market based on what other's YOU R UP-AGAINST>>> U have too

advertise or let them know ABOUT the THING ............. what it can

or can't DO for the customer>>>>>>>>>> what is the reputation

of the PRODUCER ????????????????????? good, bad, or UGLY!!!

HAVE any of you bought stuff from ????? LA ?? did you like IT ?

In the... [ More ]

Reply #42

LANTERN — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:08:28 GMT

I wonder why people don't jump in on this, you don't get a chance like this one very often if ever.

It is true that there are other wheelers and some are free and also that LP has wheels, but Are they anything like this one?

I do hope that Anastasios either sells or gives away this wheeler as a stand alone program.

Reply #41

lottoarchitect — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:12:49 GMT

Maryland,

that's exactly the L parameter I have mentioned, which defines how many multiple hits of the main category we aim to achieve. Thus for an 4if5 wheel having L=2, if we have 5 correct numbers in our selection we are guaranteed to have at least two 4-hit prizes. The good part of having L>1 wheels is that they generally require fewer lines than doubling the size of the relevant L=1 wheel and also greatly improves lower division multiple hits as I have posted somewhere else.

cheers... [ More ]

Reply #40

psykomo — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:39:33 GMT

amen>>>BobP:

Your EXAMPLE...........................make's a POINT of what I have ^^

L@@KED for on (my time) for all these year's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

PSY is and alway's L@@KED for a G@@D^^^^^^^^^^SYSTEM!

YOU pointed out a wheel-system that seem's to work better than

MOST other WHEEL's^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

YOU^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

STUCK with the subject and hopeFULLY answered.............LottoA

in a VERY honest>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...........WAY... [ More ]

Reply #39

BobP — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:52:27 GMT

As far back as I go GH was always written in tight machine code that made a IBM XT run like a pentium.

This wheel has a 99.5% 3if6in25numbers20lines guarantee. It is not a split wheel.

1 2 7 12 17 25

1 5 7 15 16 18

1 6 14 18 20 22

1 8 10 11 15 21

1 9 14 16 19 23

2 3 4 11 16 20

2 5 6 10 13 14

2 8 9 15 22 24

2 8 13 18 19 21

3 4 6 12 15 19

3 4 9 10 18 25

3 5 17 21 22 23

4 5 8 9 12 20

4 5 11 19 22 25

6 7 9 11 13 17

6 8 16 21 24 25

7... [ More ]

Reply #38

RJOh — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 04:37:03 GMT

I tried both LottoPro and Lotto Buster and I agree LottoPro is a quality piece of software. My computer crashed a couple of years ago and my copies of both programs were lost. I got free updates of LottoPro but Lotto Buster wanted to sell their updates.

Back in the late '80 I got a copy of a Gail Howard program written in Basic that was saved using the protect feature. When I learned how to remove the feature,I listed it and wasn't impressed so I started writing my own program. I'm sure... [ More ]

Reply #37

BobP — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 04:07:06 GMT

You are correct. I ran it again and just got the exact same lines. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I asked for no more then one and no less then one number from each group with a 4if6 guarantee. IV is the tightest generation method.

Brojevi: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,

19,20,21,22,23,24 [24]

Puni sistem ima 134,596 kombinacija

Garancija: 4 od 6, IV

1. grupa: 1 broj iz grupe. [4]

1, 2, 3, 4

2. grupa: 1 broj iz grupe. [4]

5, 6, 7, 8

3. grupa... [ More ]

Reply #36

BobP — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 03:49:56 GMT

I think if you looked over the best known lottery software you'd find it about 50/50 whether they give everyone something different or you get exactly the same as everyone else given the same draw history. For example, Lotto Buster 2010 gives a different prediction with every click. On the other hand GH and Lottery Director and I believe the current version of Lotto Pro gives everyone using the defaults the same result. If the most popular wheel is GH's 4if6in18numbers42 combinations and Sma... [ More ]

Reply #35

jarasan — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:19:21 GMT

All the wheels anyone would ever need are available right here on LP. Picking the smallest set of good numbers is the key, the full wheels are affordable for small sets, the key and abbreviated wheels are very effective when you are in the neighborhood of 12 to 15 number sets.

Reply #34

Maryland — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:04:14 GMT

The whole purpose of wheeling is to be able to play more numbers at an affordable cost. I love wheeling numbers especially when you find those that give multiple prizes. Hoping lottoarchitect releases his wheel generator with option of multiple prize wheels generation. Generally wheeling doesn't get your cost back but the wheels that give multiple wins do.

Reply #33

RJOh — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:27:54 GMT

Wheels that contain all the winning numbers are generally too big to be affordable. What's needed is software to analyze lotteries past results and come up with some statistics that aids one in picking a pool of 15 numbers or so that have all the winning numbers 70% of the time or more.

I doubt if that will ever happen because that's better than those services selling groups of numbers claiming they contains all the winning numbers most of the time.

Reply #32

reddog — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:59:43 GMT

wheeling numbers are only as good as the numbers being wheeled. I hate to wheel numbers.

Reply #31

HeReTiC — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:16:22 GMT

Bob,

some of the lines must be wrong!

5,10,16,18,21,24

7,12,14,20,22,23

.....

These and more, have more than one number of the same group

Reply #30

RJOh — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:04:42 GMT

Lottery software written for sale is designed so that different users will not all get the same results, even when working with the same data. What this does is give the program a greater chance of producing a winner (and a testimonial)... somewhere.

That is exactly my point, outside of keeping track of data, commercial lottery software in no better than a RNG because its picks are different each time it runs even if the data is the same.

Reply #29

jarasan — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:26:13 GMT

This would be an addition to ones tool chest. I use more than one source for selecting numbers and then creating lines. The key, as several of you have said, is the narrowing down of your picks so that it is economically effective to sustain playing without getting ridiculous.

Reply #28

time*treat — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:42:03 GMT

Lottery software written for sale is designed so that different users will not all get the same results, even when working with the same data. What this does is give the program a greater chance of producing a winner (and a testimonial)... somewhere.

Imagine I say I have a system that let's you win a straight pick3 with only 10 numbers bet

If I give you and 99 other people the same 10 numbers and they don't fall, all 100 of you will not be too happy.

If I give each of you 10 differen... [ More ]

Reply #27

RJOh — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:02:18 GMT

I stand corrected, now there has been another group that won an unusual amount of higher tier prizes that got their numbers from a single source, the TLC Network's broadcast of How the Lottery Changed My Life according this news story:

https://www.lotterypost.com/news/163572

Make me wonder why the same things hasn't happened with a group using the same software. I have to conclude that software results are random or include so many possible outcomes that players using the same software ar... [ More ]

Reply #26

lottoarchitect — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:48:09 GMT

Thanks for the responses so far. I have to make a clarification about this thread which might has been misunderstood. I'm talking about Wheel Generator which aims to generate wheels; nothing more or less with the properties I have described at the beginning. I'm not talking about a program that does filtering, statistics, pick numbers for you etc. I have already Lotto Architect for that and aim to improve it much further. You can compare directly Wheel Generator with programs such as Covermaster... [ More ]

Reply #25

BobP — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:38:42 GMT

Say one day you notice your system\software puts all six winning numbers among blocks of numbers through the ranking from best to worse. For example, the first four numbers often contain one of the winning numbers. Block 12-15 often has one of the winning numbers, block 27-30, block 32-35, block 42-45 and the last four numbers often have one winning number.

A straight up 4if6in24number wheel needs 154 combinations so even if you win you lose money. However a 4if6in24number wheel limite... [ More ]

Reply #24

RJOh — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:25:49 GMT

Thanks Bob, I checked and I left the dash(-) out of the name of the website and that redirected me to the LottoLogic website.

I've have a copy on a back-up drive because too often when a computer crashes old programs are lost and their websites are gone too.

Reply #23

RJOh — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:21:19 GMT

It is better not to make a program that predicts, as all people using it for a given draw would get the same set of predicted numbers to play, including the lotteries.

posted by LANTERN

There are plenty of prediction programs already on the market and some websites selling numbers that they claim are more likely to hit and players are using them and yet there have never been any large group of people win a lottery or a top tier prize playing the same numbers except the one time when all tho... [ More ]

Reply #22

BobP — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:04:06 GMT

I just checked the link off Lotto-Logix and everything is as it should be. At http://www.lotto-logix.com/wheellinks.html there are three lines for CoverMaster. The First goes to the author's web site which is very simple, a download button, the doc, and to email the author to get the password free for the zip. On the day I learn the author's site is no more I will post a non-password protected version hosted on LL. At LL the second link gets you a zip of the older version of CoverMaster you ca... [ More ]

Reply #21

LANTERN — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:47:27 GMT

Maybe Quantum filters is what I would call Matrix Numerical-Geometrical Patterns filters, I have my own ideas on that.

The Matrix is the combined past draws or segment(s) of past draws used.

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Obligations Prohibitions (Common Chaos Filters)

Those seem to apply only to numbers with that program, they should also apply to Filter Patterns Filtering should be done at all levels, from the 1 digit-Patterns going up to the whole complete

Reply #20

LANTERN — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:05:35 GMT

A program that can help people to win more often than by using quick picks can be made, the trouble is that if people can buy it if it is made, so can the states also buy it, remember there is a 30 minute gap between last ticket bought and the draw, to make things worse there are also pre-tests and RNGs.

It is better not to make a program that predicts, as all people using it for a given draw would get the same set of predicted numbers to play, including the lotteries.

It is best to give t... [ More ]

Reply #19

time*treat — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:58:25 GMT

I write my own stuff. But for those who can't, I think this would be a welcome addition to their tool chest... especially those who spent so many dollars and months waiting for ... lottosync.

Reply #18

RJOh — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:00:58 GMT

What would be the advantage of creating such a wheel over a single group of 24 numbers wheel with a guarantee of 4 if 6 are in the group

Reply #17

pumpi76 — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:56:49 GMT

I previously said: ll like to describe something i'll like the software to have, something that lotterydirector has but that you can only put like 8 numbers on each side (2 rows) but i'll like where you can place 15 numbers on each side making them 30 numbers total.

What i was talking about was LOttery director's Keyboard/Pointers section, you can only use like 8 numbers in each pointer...I'll like to use 15 numbers on each pointer making it total of 30....Pointer and Keyboard is the same... [ More ]

Reply #16

RJOh — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:27:14 GMT

CoverMaster is a wheel generator program. There use to be a link at lottologix, a website with links to lots of free lottery information but when I checked the website it had disappear or it was redirecting its traffic to a lottery software sight instead.

Reply #15

pumpi76 — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:00:35 GMT

if is a software like Lantern describe, yes i'll be willing to pay....I ll like to describe something i'll like the software to have, something that lotterydirector has but that you can only put like 8 numbers on each side (2 rows) but i'll like where you can place 15 numbers on each side making them 30 numbers total....I wish i had the picture to place it here...

I wish they had a software like the one latern described in English...I have yet to see a software like the one Lantern described... [ More ]

Reply #14

SoBe Yourself — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:33:02 GMT

What is CoverMaster? I looked it up on Yahoo and I didn't find it.

Reply #13

Spot9 — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:45:47 GMT

What about 6 groups of 4 numbers i.e. 24 numbers, and a guarantee of 4 numbers if 6 are drawn with one number from each group?

Spot9

Reply #12

LANTERN — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:59:13 GMT

A graphical interface takes a lot of space, but does make things a lot easier to understand and use.

That is the main difference, between the Crunch 2 and the FreeWheeler, the first is also very good, but people don't use it as they can't understand how to, the FreeWheeler gets used much more.

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A filters tool kit, that is a program that allows users to make their own filters and filters stats and maybe also to test and implement their own prediction technique(s) would be t... [ More ]

Reply #11

LANTERN — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:45:11 GMT

But as advanced as that is, there is very much more to filtering, a lot is not covered there, I don't see in there the filters pattterns that I would use if I could, besides all of that, there is so much to predicting by filters, with jackpot games you do have to use a lot of stuff, due to the very many combinations involved.

Reply #10

LANTERN — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:25:26 GMT

Now this is the kind of thing that I am or would be mostly interested in if it was made for games that i can play or if it was a universal lottery tool.

That person makes the kind of stuff that I like, but for the wrong game.

That is for a jackpot game, but such things in general are also good for daily games as I have shown with the FreeWheeler and other such programs.

If you can translate from Turkish to English there is some interesting reading there.

Reply #9

Guru101 — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:07:24 GMT

No. I got my own program.

Reply #8

RJOh — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:00:46 GMT

How many ways can you look at a game that only has a thousand possible outcomes? People don't want more pick3 programs, they just want one that will make them winners, and so far no one have written such a program. If someone had even jackpot game players would buy it.

Reply #7

LANTERN — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:33:42 GMT

Welcome back!

People should buy that.

But they might prefer to buy pick 3 and 4 programs.

Daily games are hot, jackpots are just a dream, it is possible to win on the pick 3 and maybe on the pick 4.

Lottery players need more pick 3 and 4 programs made.

There are so few pick 4 programs.

Reply #6

RJOh — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:02:59 GMT

Any program that generate wheel could do that, you simply generate wheels for each group, combine the wheels and eliminate the duplicates.

Reply #5

Spot9 — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:42:00 GMT

Would your program be able to produce Serotic type 6 group wheels?

Spot9

Reply #4

lottoarchitect — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:37:09 GMT

Hi RJOh,

some advantages:

> Build wheels with L>1 (targeting optimal increase of coverage beyond L<=1).

> Building strategies targeting hits distribution: Max hit and Balanced hits . Covermaster only concentrates on improving coverage for the defined t,m category without caring about hits produced. On the other hand, WG concentrates on improving the defined t,m category whilst attempting to improve the hits distribution produced. This practically means more smaller wins besides t... [ More ]

Reply #3

lottoarchitect — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:24:31 GMT

Hi Maryland,

glad to hear you are aware of my progress in wheels construction even if I don't post about them anywhere. I suspect you also know of the wheels repository I send my new improvements to. Creating wheels is practically almost the only thing I can do whilst in the army camp unfortunately. I let WG run and get new records . Not much mind left to work concentrated on something more mental to be honest. This inaction will be history of course as soon as I complete this army obligat... [ More ]

Reply #2

RJOh — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:09:42 GMT

What will be the advantages of using Wheel Generator 1.5 over CoverMaster which is a free wheel generator program?

For me, wheeling numbers have little of no value unless you have a way of picking a small pool of numbers that will have all the winning numbers most of the time.

Reply #1

Maryland — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:09:25 GMT

Pricing I don't understand (from USA) so I couldn't give a real thought to price. Demo, I don't think is needed being you hold alot of world records, the program speaks for itself. Now a tutorial for the program would be great.

Wheel Generator 1.5

lottoarchitect — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:17:20 GMT

Dear wheelers,

First I want to greet everyone here. Those who remember me and wonder what happened and the reason of my absence from the lottery scene... well I had the obligation of army service. Hopefully this will be over soon, in a couple of months, and I'll be back in action.

I have been thinking lately to bring into market my Wheel Generator program for the fans of wheeling, as a stand-alone utility. My will to release this magnificent program depends on the desire of those intereste... [ More ]