NO digit returns !! Pick 4

Reply #12

Winner2Be — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:18:51 GMT

Thanks a lot Win D

Reply #11

LANTERN — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:56:12 GMT

WIN D

Thanks a lot!

Very very interesting, I will have to look at your present and past posts about the pick 4 game when I start to study that game, which might be maybe sometime within the next 1 to 2 years.

I sure then will need all the info that I can get on it.

Mexico now has a pick 5 game that pays (I think) 50 000 to 1 Straight.

But there might be a problem there, I think that they enter the bets by hand into their lottery terminals, not with the betslip, so not only there m... [ More ]

Reply #10

WIN D — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:39:04 GMT

Doubles are really trouble on this deal.... They are really all over the place in Pick 4 and returning digits.

A 6 digit Pick 4 wheel will give us just 15 singles to consider or Play.

One redeaming factor in Pick 4....... we can actually wheel up to 7 digits and only be looking at 35 single numbers. The number of doubles numbers is getting high.... its actually 105 doubles with a 7 digit wheel. It is 7 digits after all.

A look at a 7 digit pick 4 wheel .....Box results below.

Reply #9

WIN D — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:57:42 GMT

I sent you a PM Winner2be. that might help out a little. You will need a pick 4 ...wheel to begin with. Remember in Pick 4 that just a simple single number like 4321 has 24 combinations....so 15 singles is actually 360 straights.

Thanks CARBOB ..... I appreciate your interest on this deal ...and those Fla stats.

Reply #8

Winner2Be — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:27:08 GMT

I hope I don't come across as an airhead, however I can't

figure out how to get 15 single combinations.

Can someone please list those 15 combinations? I

would love to take a look at this in SC and GA.

Thanks in advance

Reply #7

CARBOB — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:00:35 GMT

Chaz, you are simply brilliant in the way you bring stats to the forefront. In Fla as you can see, it's a little better than 5 draws. The Median is 3.

ONE DRAW REPEATS MAX MED AVG SKIP

0 1227 34 3 4.91 1

1 2727 14 2 2.21 0

2 1745 18 2 3.46 3

3 312 85 20 19.32 7

4 15 1348 234 401.93 38

6026

Reply #6

WIN D — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:46:49 GMT

All that .... and I blew the answer huh? LOL Sorry Raven.

I think my answer is the same as when folks ask me about when is the best time to play trips...

I always say ....... Trips are supposed to average every 100 pick 3 draws. Since most of what i do centers around averages etc. Sun spots and Moon beams don't compute.

NJ is averaging one of those 4 digit returns every 500 draws or so.... so its not on my list of things to track day to day......sorry.

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Reply #5

Raven62 — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:23:26 GMT

Thanks for the answer, but that wasn't my question. lol

When is a 4-Digit return most likely to occur? (ie: after a Double, Double-Double, Triple, Quad, Sun Spots, a Full Moon, etc.

Reply #4

WIN D — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:14:00 GMT

OH ....almost forgot your question about how often a 4 digit number returns the next day.....on top of itself as a Box.

I just forget those ..... they are gross.

For example.... New Jersey midday...the last time that happened was 315 draws ago. The average on Mid NJ is every 532 average. The last skips on this midday were ...315 338 307 and ...758

NJ eve is about the same.... not worth tracking

Its 170 since the last time....and its averaging around every 511 draws..

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Reply #3

WIN D — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:02:43 GMT

Good Raven .... you are correct about the 15 Single number combinations. Very good. Our only fly in the soup is all the doubles in Pick 4. This would be soooo pretty to catch it happening form Single to Single number .....so we could just drop doubles.

As you can see below.... we are in great shape for a single number. The doubles give us much more to filter from. Rats !

It would cost us only 3.75 to cover all the darn Singles. Of course we could cover all the doubles for 15 bucks.....

Reply #2

Raven62 — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:48:40 GMT

With No Doubles, Triples, Double-Doubles, Quads: Wheeling 6-Digits=15 Combinations!

PS: When are 4-Digit Returns most likely to occur

Reply #1

WIN D — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:29:03 GMT

This is a big deal ....... !

If no digits repeat from the last draw ...... then wheeling 7 remaining digits is very easy to do .

If the number were to hit as a Single( which happens about Half the time) as 0123 and

if it came back next day as a regular single number we only have to wheel the 7 unhit digits.

Wheel digits 456789 .....and what do you get ?

How many Box numbers do you think that gives you ?

Come on ...... Anybody? Anybody?

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NO digit returns !! Pick 4

WIN D — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:54:51 GMT

NO digit returns form last draw to next draw in Pick 4......should average about every week ( bout every5 draws on average)

EXample 0123 draw ......means that digits 456789 wheel will have the next number on average of every 5 draws.

In the North American Games right now there are some real good opportunities about to happen.

MI eve..... it has been 19 draws since no digits repeated !

NY eve 7 draws ..................................

NY mid 6 draws out.... [ More ]