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NO digit returns !! Pick 4

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WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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Posted: March 5, 2008, 11:54 am - IP Logged

   NO digit returns form last draw to next draw in Pick 4......should average about every week ( bout every5 draws on average) 

 

   EXample"      0123 draw ......means that digits  456789  wheel will have the next number on average of every 5 draws. Naughty 

 

 

    In the North American Games right now there are some real good opportunities about to happen.

 

     MI eve.....  it has been 19 draws since no digits repeated !

     NY eve                          7 draws ..................................

     NY mid                          6 draws out............................

     PA Eve                          10 draws out.........................

     SC eve                          11 draws out..........................

      RI eve                           25 draws since no digits repeated ! 

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

    WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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    Posted: March 5, 2008, 12:29 pm - IP Logged

      This is a big deal ....... !

       If no digits repeat from the last draw ...... then wheeling 7 remaining digits is very easy to do .

     

       If the number were to hit as a Single( which happens about Half the time) as 0123 and

      if it came back next day as a regular single number we only have to wheel the 7 unhit digits.

     

             Wheel digits 456789  .....and what do you get ? 

                                     How many Box numbers do you think that gives you ?

     

                                             Come on ......      Anybody?  Anybody?  

                                                       It's not very many ya know.

                                                                 Almost nothing

                                       

                                               I tell ya this ..... its worth it to hit 100.00 dollars .

                                                If it comes back as a Single number ...its a win.

     

     

    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                           Win d    

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      Posted: March 5, 2008, 12:48 pm - IP Logged

      With No Doubles, Triples, Double-Doubles, Quads: Wheeling 6-Digits=15 Combinations!

      PS: When are 4-Digit Returns most likely to occur?

      A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

        WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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        Posted: March 5, 2008, 1:02 pm - IP Logged

        With No Doubles, Triples, Double-Doubles, Quads: Wheeling 6-Digits=15 Combinations!

        PS: When are 4-Digit Returns most likely to occur?

         Good Raven .... you are correct about the 15 Single number combinations.  Very good.  Our only fly in the soup is all the doubles in Pick 4.  This would be soooo pretty to catch it happening form Single to Single number .....so we could just drop doubles.

            As you can see below.... we are in great shape for a single number. The doubles give us much more to filter from. Rats !  

           It would cost us only 3.75 to cover all the darn Singles.  Of course we could cover all the doubles for 15 bucks..... but it takes a lot of the fun out of it. 

         

        ABCD 15  1.4%4567 4568 4569 4578 4579 4589 4678 4679 4689 4789 5678 5679 5689 5789 6789
        AABC605.6%

        4456 4457 4458 4459 4467 4468 4469 4478 4479 4489 4556 4557 4558 4559 4566 4577 4588 4599 4667 4668 4669 4677 4688 4699 4778 4779 4788 4799 4889 4899 5567 5568 5569 5578 5579 5589 5667 5668 5669 5677 5688 5699 5778 5779 5788 5799 5889 5899 6678 6679 6689 6778 6779 6788 6799 6889 6899 7789 7889 7899 

         

         

         

           

         

         

        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                               Win d    

          WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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          Posted: March 5, 2008, 1:14 pm - IP Logged

            OH ....almost forgot your question about how often a 4 digit number returns the next day.....on top of itself as a Box.

               I just forget those ..... they are gross. 

                For example.... New Jersey midday...the last time that happened was 315 draws ago. The average on Mid NJ is every 532 average.  The last skips on this midday were ...315 338 307 and ...758 

           NJ eve is about the same.... not worth tracking

           Its 170 since the last time....and its averaging around every 511 draws..

           

               LOL .... almost all states have the same results and averages. GROSS  huh ?

           

               But .... the other way is great.... Single to Single (No digits return)  Even if we have to cover a lot of the 60 double boxes.... its a small deal really for pick 4.   

           

                 For only 3.75 ........ I can risk that to make a hundred bucks.  Then pray for no doubles. LOL  

           

                               Think what just a dollar bet would do for your wallet per single. HMMMM   

           

           

          The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                        Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                        Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                 Win d    

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            Posted: March 5, 2008, 1:23 pm - IP Logged

            Thanks for the answer, but that wasn't my question. lol

            When is a 4-Digit return most likely to occur? (ie: after a Double, Double-Double, Triple, Quad, Sun Spots, a Full Moon, etc.)

            A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

              WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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              Posted: March 5, 2008, 1:46 pm - IP Logged

              Thanks for the answer, but that wasn't my question. lol

              When is a 4-Digit return most likely to occur? (ie: after a Double, Double-Double, Triple, Quad, Sun Spots, a Full Moon, etc.)

                All that .... and I blew the answer huh?  LOL  Sorry Raven.

                I think my answer is the same as when folks ask me about when is the best time to play trips...

                 I always say ....... Trips are supposed to average every 100 pick 3 draws. Since most of what i do centers around averages etc.  Sun spots and Moon beams don't compute.

                 NJ is averaging one of those 4 digit returns every 500 draws or so....  so its not on my list of things to track day to day......sorry. 

               

               

                      One strange thing Raven...... NJ Pick 4trips .....    NJ had only 11 of those in the last year. Strange however ....5 of them have hit in the last 30 days!  ODD deal.   

                Let's start a rumor .... or superstition..... that happens only during LEAP years or something like that.  It only happens in the months that have 29 days in them.... LOL

               

               

              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                     Win d    

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                Posted: March 5, 2008, 7:00 pm - IP Logged

                   NO digit returns form last draw to next draw in Pick 4......should average about every week ( bout every5 draws on average) 

                 

                   EXample"      0123 draw ......means that digits  456789  wheel will have the next number on average of every 5 draws. Naughty 

                 

                 

                    In the North American Games right now there are some real good opportunities about to happen.

                 

                     MI eve.....  it has been 19 draws since no digits repeated !

                     NY eve                          7 draws ..................................

                     NY mid                          6 draws out............................

                     PA Eve                          10 draws out.........................

                     SC eve                          11 draws out..........................

                      RI eve                           25 draws since no digits repeated ! 

                Chaz, you are simply brilliant in the way you bring stats to the forefront. In Fla as you can see, it's a little better than 5 draws. The Median is 3.

                 

                ONE DRAW REPEATS  MAXMEDAVGSKIP
                012273434.911
                127271422.210
                217451823.463
                3312852019.327
                4151348234401.9338
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                  I hope I don't come across as an airhead, however I can't

                  figure out how to get 15 single combinations.

                  Can someone please list those 15 combinations?  I

                  would love to take a look at this in SC and GA.

                  Thanks in advance!

                   Studying 



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                    WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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                     I sent you a PM Winner2be. that might help out a little. You will need a pick 4 ...wheel to begin with. Remember in Pick 4 that just a simple single number like 4321 has 24 combinations....so 15 singles is actually 360 straights.  

                     

                     Thanks CARBOB .....  I appreciate your interest on this deal ...and those Fla stats.   

                     

                     

                    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                           Win d    

                      WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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                       I sent you a PM Winner2be. that might help out a little. You will need a pick 4 ...wheel to begin with. Remember in Pick 4 that just a simple single number like 4321 has 24 combinations....so 15 singles is actually 360 straights.  

                       

                       Thanks CARBOB .....  I appreciate your interest on this deal ...and those Fla stats.   

                           Doubles are really trouble on this deal.... They are really all over the place in Pick 4 and returning digits.

                               A 6 digit Pick 4 wheel will give us just 15 singles to consider or Play.  

                              One redeaming factor in Pick 4....... we can actually wheel up to 7 digits and only be looking at 35 single numbers.  The number of doubles numbers is getting high.... its actually 105 doubles with a 7 digit wheel.  It is 7 digits after all.

                       

                           A look at a 7 digit pick 4 wheel .....Box results below.  

                       

                      ABCD351.7%3456 3457 3458 3459 3467 3468 3469 3478 3479 3489 3567 3568 3569 3578 3579 3589 3678 3679 3689 3789 4567 4568 4569 4578 4579 4589 4678 4679 4689 4789 5678 5679 5689 5789 6789
                      AABC1055.0%3345 3346 3347 3348 3349 3356 3357 3358 3359 3367 3368 3369 3378 3379 3389 3445 3446 3447 3448 3449 3455 3466 3477 3488 3499 3556 3557 3558 3559 3566 3577 3588 3599 3667 3668 3669 3677 3688 3699 3778 3779 3788 3799 3889 3899 4456 4457 4458 4459 4467 4468 4469 4478 4479 4489 4556 4557 4558 4559 4566 4577 4588 4599 4667 4668 4669 4677 4688 4699 4778 4779 4788 4799 4889 4899 5567 5568 5569 5578 5579 5589 5667 5668 5669 5677 5688 5699 5778 5779 5788 5799 5889 5899 6678 6679 6689 6778 6779 6788 6799 6889 6899 7789 7889 7899

                       

                       

                            Hard to believe isn't it?  A 7 digit wheel .....and those boxes up there is actually representing 2,100 straights !

                       

                       

                      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                             Win d    

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                        WIN D

                        Thanks a lot!

                        Very very interesting, I will have to look at your present and past posts about the pick 4 game when I start to study that game, which might be maybe sometime within the next 1 to 2 years.

                        I sure then will need all the info that I can get on it.

                        Mexico now has a pick 5 game that pays (I think) 50 000 to 1 Straight.

                        But there might be a problem there, I think that they enter the bets by hand into their lottery terminals, not with the betslip, so not only there might be mistakes, but the numbers entered might be very limited and or restricted, after all how many combos would a clerk enter per person per draw, would he or she enter 100 or 500 ? 

                        I don't mean the "Regular" pick 5 game that they have that is a Jackpot kind of game such as the Tx Cash 5, but one that is like the pick 3 and pick 4 games a: 10x10x10x10x10=100 000 straight combos.

                        5 positions and 10 possible digits per position.

                        Well, I don't live by the Mexican border, but often , because of their lottery games I wish that I did.

                        I still speak Spanish well enough and also read it (Can't write on it too well nowdays).

                        Thanks again!

                        I just went to take a look at the old online penny store and see that they now have even more and new funding methods, perhaps later this year I might take a closer look at it. 

                        Fernando. 

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                          Thanks a lot Win D!!!

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