Anonymity a Sheild for Not Being Hounded

Reply #44

TexasDreams — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:39:35 GMT

I agree with this statement, a friend of mine won the Texas Lotto back in 1996. Neither her or her husband changed. We still go for our monthly lunches and take turns buying. We are real friends who enjoy each others company;but, not those who expect a free ride just because one of us can afford to pay all the time. I mean lets look at it a little closer, we all have friends. Some make more than us and others don't; therefore, we don't expect the ones who make more to always pay for lunch or din... [ More ]

Reply #43

rubberbandman — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:29:41 GMT

the winning after someone else wins is a pretty good quote, thats why i remembered it

Reply #42

Mike Frazier — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:07:48 GMT

I don't think I've read about it on the web. I've seen more than one report on TV, though. I've been watching a lot of CNN and MSNBC, following the Democratic primary contest. In the process, I catch regular news from time to time.

I'm sure you can find it on the web if you look, though, especially if you check the news sites.

Reply #41

sirbrad — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:25:43 GMT

Really? Do you have links to verify such reports? I checked a lot of news sites and did not see any such reports about this.

Reply #40

justxploring — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:56:14 GMT

People are definitely hounded just because they have fame fortune....look at what celebrities go through with the paparazzi. Paris Hilton took advantage of the public's interest in the rich and famous and decided to make a career out of being a rich brat, which was very smart.

I agree with Lilly that easy money is looked at in a different light.

Reply #39

mylollipop — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:44:22 GMT

Earned and Derserved. Hmmmn. I never thought of it like that. That does make a difference in the moinds of many. Maybe that is why the Lotto winners are hounded so. I do not think that Jack was hounded before he won the famous Christmas Day PB and he was a millionaire before he won too.

Reply #38

Mike Frazier — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:47:00 GMT

I don't think there's any question that anonymity is preferable. Yes, there are many, many millionaires in the US. But how many people are there with $30M or more? And, as the number climbs higher, the air gets much more rarified.

Kidnapping is a reality. The Mexican mafia is, right now, coming across the border and kidnapping members of rich American families from shopping malls, taking them back to Mexico, torturing them and holding them for ransom. This is happening today. Living behind... [ More ]

Reply #37

sirbrad — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:17:19 GMT

Yes that would be me. I always have said that here.

Reply #36

Guru101 — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:37:50 GMT

Meh, claiming anonymously wouldn't help me out much. After all, driving around in a $375,000 Lamborghini must mean something.

Reply #35

rubberbandman — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:23:35 GMT

Sounds good to me, that's the kind of lotto that should be used as a model.

But it isn't, is it?

If nobody likes the rules, move to europe or australia and win there, if you're not then stop complainin.

ps I sell everything at a loss but make up for it in volume is a catchy quote, dont know who milo is but that quote is pretty good for what its about

Reply #34

Coin Toss — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:07:08 GMT

The more I learn about the Aussie lotto from our LP members in Oz the better it sounds all the time- posters here have said it's tax free for the winner- instead $1 AUS the tickets are $1.03 AUS and thus the tax has already been paid, and remaining anonymous is the norm.

Sounds good to me, that's the kind of lotto that should be used as a model.

Reply #33

rubberbandman — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:58:19 GMT

Last thing you want is a record jackpot and a slow news day!

Hilarious and so true.

Reply #32

colo2004 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:10:19 GMT

That's sound advice.

If you're really lucky there might be some huge news story that breaks the same day. That could help a little.

Last thing you want is a record jackpot and a slow news day

Reply #31

rubberbandman — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:43:01 GMT

If someone should win the lottery it is best to win the 15 mil after someone else wins a record amount on the previous jackpot. Someone here said that on a recent post.

That way no one cares enough about you to hound. But if one should win and cant request anonymity or create legal entities, they would really seek seclusion at least temporary, until the fame die down.

Reply #30

grengrad — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:08:51 GMT

I know a few millionaires, and they do not get hounded, but the difference is that they do not have a high profile.

Maybe a couple hundred people know they are millionaires. A large lotto winner has millions of people who know they are winners and worth millions.

Reply #29

sirbrad — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:25:28 GMT

That is because the lottery doe snot want to get hounded by people question the integrity of the game by now listing winners. No one really cares about anonymity until it is them who wins. Funny thing about clerks as I said in the past, they never seem to want to offer any money back to me for all my losses. So why should they get any winnings? They shouldn't, plain and simple. Never had any ask though, they know better.

Reply #28

Coin Toss — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:23:52 GMT

Good luck in Las Vegas. I lived there from 1977 to 1993. When I got there it was the tail end of Las Vegas and hadn't yet become Las Vegas, Incorporated.

For the first five years or so it's really fun. Then that kind of tones down.

Then you get to the point that if you hear one more person ask Who hit the royal you want to strangle them.

I got off work one day and was driving home and there was a body on the sidewlak on West Sahara. That's when I knew it was time to scoot.

Buono... [ More ]

Reply #27

MeFirstYouLast — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:43:40 GMT

Was not talking about Sam, the individual; ole Sam had some good ideas. I was talking about the ability of huge amounts of money to corrupt. Not those with $1M, those with $10M, or even those with $40M Those with one hundred million! The Waltons and the Gates family are examples of corruption. Are there those that money does not corrupt. There is always some one who does not fit the template, but it does not invalidate the template. The concept that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts ab... [ More ]

Reply #26

Coin Toss — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:22:10 GMT

That's part of the point about Sam Walton.

While he was still alive Wal Mart was advertising but Americam and there were Made In USA signs all over the stores.

As soon as he passed away, that all changed.

But what you described above is Wal Mart, now, without him.

I was talking about Sam Walton, the person- and how money and power didn't effect him.

We've had other discussions on this, but you can't assume everyone trying to hit a jackpot is after power. Quite a few, in fact most,... [ More ]

Reply #25

ThatScaryChick — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:14:05 GMT

You notice that too

Reply #24

justxploring — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:04:48 GMT

No. I actually think there has been more arguing on LP than ever before, but that's only my observation. Or maybe Todd has subliminal messages on this site and we're being brainwashed as part of a study on human behavior.

Edit: There are some members who curiously use the same style of writing, the same spelling and grammar errors and often have the same opinion..if that's what you meant.

Reply #23

time*treat — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:59:19 GMT

Has anyone noticed that we are

starting to all post more and more alike

Reply #22

Stack47 — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:58:58 GMT

I've known people that carry their entire life's savings in their pockets or hide it under their mattress and you probably won't even find their names on the 'thousandaires list'. Those people will never become billionaires or multi-millionaires that know enough to not have a large amount of money on their person or in their homes.

Who would be the more logical mark for a mugger or thief

Reply #21

justxploring — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:58:28 GMT

I won't tell all of my stories again! (and there is a collective long sigh of relief...) However, I've met some very down-to-earth people and later discovered they were multi-millionaires. I'm not talking about having a million or 2, since that's not uncommon these days. When I lived on Sanibel in a small home on a dirt road, my neighbor lived in an older CBS home that I'm guessing was around 1,200 s.f. He drove a pickup and always wore jeans. One day I saw the same last name in the paper as the... [ More ]

Reply #20

MeFirstYouLast — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:56:36 GMT

Yeah, and look at the Wal-Mart family now! Nothing there to be proud of. Children bribing their way through school exams. Moving away from the old homestead and living in Condo's in Hawaii and Las Vegas. The old homestead is now a tourist attraction, charging an enterance fee. Used have huge signs saying, We sell American, buy American. Now they import most of their products from China. The only volume I heard was when they closed the family portrait book and buried it in the ground with the res... [ More ]

Reply #19

time*treat — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:55:58 GMT

Yeah, but look what his kids thought of Made in USA

Reply #18

Coin Toss — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:47:36 GMT

Money and power didn't effect the late Sam Walton much.

Founded Wal Mart and kept driving a nine year old pick up truck, speals volumes.

Reply #17

MeFirstYouLast — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:30:09 GMT

You're mostly right. But as I have said, huge amounts of money equal huge amounts of power. Evey one is familar with the theory on power. Look what it did to sweet, jovial, loveable, Bill Gates.

Reply #16

lottocalgal — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:14:38 GMT

But MFYL

What you said doesnt seem to me that seem like a change. It just shows what you plan to do with your winnings. If you are saying that you will do those things even now before winning, it tells me that it is the kind of person you already are. It sounds pretty good- it seems like something that is in your heart now, so, so far there doesnt seem to be a change, right?

And no i'm not talking about the stuff you will buy or do for family and friends. that's different than changi... [ More ]

Reply #15

MeFirstYouLast — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:56:32 GMT

Just so I am not taken wrong. I have ten close friends that, given a huge enough lottery deposit, I would turn into multi-millionaires. Most buy employing them at a high salary and giving them job descriptions that enables us to all to be together. Each not feeling inadequate or depressed because they can't pull their weight. The pulled their weight when I needed them, and now I would have a chance to support them. Which is part of the reason I do not want to settle for a small jackpot, but want... [ More ]

Reply #14

lottocalgal — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:19:42 GMT

Hey MFYL

I think its the people around you who change first. They expect you to fund their way through life and yes, I think people who receive lucky financial windfalls are then forced to change and/or become a recluse just so they can have the peace that they lived prior the their luck changing. Now I don't mean the purchasing of things thats not a life change its something you do. Im talking about buying a home in a gated community, stop hanging around friends or even having contact wit... [ More ]

Reply #13

MeFirstYouLast — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:56:57 GMT

There is absolutely no reason to become a recluse. They have been making millionaires all around the world every day. Thank you world wide lottery! How many can you name off the top of your head? How many can you find in an hour? There are cities jam packed with millionaires. Some places, you cannot even buy property because of the number of rich people. Joe-Crook driving up the side streets of Rush Limbaugh's house in Palm Beach is gonna get about two blocks before his 2001 Chevy is pulled over... [ More ]

Reply #12

LuckyLilly — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:50:30 GMT

True, but I think it must be worse for a lottery winner because people perceive that the winner's money was free therefore they should be willing to share it. I've had a clerk expect me to share a lousy $100 win with her. I've never seen a clerk ask for a share of a $1000 paycheck as they cashed it. I assume because paychecks are considered earned deserved whereas wins are not.

Reply #11

four4me — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:19:41 GMT

Anyone who reaches for a certain status in life and makes the grade can expect to be troubled by the less fortunate. This includes the boss or owners of a company while maybe not a millionaire or billionaire because he or she has reached a certain platform people tend to think they might be a soft touch or wiser wealthier than the rest of the community.

There are few ways a person with millions or billions can hide. Unless he or she lives within a certain dollar factor like a pauper.

Reply #10

ThatScaryChick — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:33:48 GMT

With that kind of money you have to readjust who you hang out with. Ifyou stay with those of your status, then you would not have to worryabout being hounded.

I would and could never give up my family and friends that I have now if I won a jackpot. Those who are in my life at the moment are the same people I want in my life after.

Reply #9

Coin Toss — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:28:54 GMT

Well, Credence Clearwater Didn't (Fortunate Son

Reply #8

justxploring — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:11:01 GMT

With that kind of money you have to readjust who you hang out with. If you stay with those of your status, then you would not have to worry about being hounded.

So you are saying what....that you should dump your not-so-fortunate friends and relatives

Reply #7

Coin Toss — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:08:49 GMT

How about Osma Bin Laden? At one time he was worth$600,000,000.

Not to condone what he stands for, but I don't see any Warren Buffets or Bill Gates hiding out in caves in the mountains for a cause.

Reply #6

justxploring — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:01:25 GMT

Do you remember when the grandson of J.P. Getty was kidnapped in the 70s? They demanded a $17 million ransom. The kidnappers cut off his ear and mailed it to the family.

Speaking of this family, I saw an interview on TV a long time ago...one of those Barbara Walters shows. Her guest that night was J. Paul Getty Jr. Anyway, if I recall, she asked if he receives letters from people who are needy. He said it happened all the time, but that he started a private foundation to which he donated to

Reply #5

LuckyLilly — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:32:26 GMT

A couple years ago a handyman that worked for David Letterman was arrested for plotting to kidnap Letterman's son for ransom. Tntea, it's impossible to associate with only those of your financial status unless you never need plumbing or yardwork, or car repairs done.

Reply #4

tntea — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:05:22 GMT

Hubby and I have several friends who have made it big. Either through wills or through hard work and business sense.

Hubby has about 30 friends who he has kept up with since high school. Of the 30 their are probably 8 millionaires in the mix now.

The group gets together twice a year as a whole and in little groups throughout.

No one is treated any different from the rest. The rich aren't hounded and neither do they put down the rest of us who made less than a million in the year 2007.... [ More ]

Reply #3

tntea — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:51:58 GMT

With that kind of money you have to readjust who you hang out with. If you stay with those of your status, then you would not have to worry about being hounded.

I wouldn't want to give up the friends I have now. I can call any when in need, and they can call me.

Hubby and I jackpot dreamed last night. He hardly ever talks about what he would like to see done. He said he had 15 friends he wanted to give a Million Dollars. I was surprised. Then again I should have figured. He does have... [ More ]

Reply #2

lottocalgal — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:42:17 GMT

Both millionaires and billionaires are hounded. Probably on a constent basis. Maybe not an influx of reporters in one day like a lottery winner. But I know that they are hounded by the charities all the time for donations. They are the main target. Think about Palm Beach FL. being the capital for charity donations. As for kidnapping, yes I know of one case where a hedgefund(sp?) manager, who makes over $800 million (yes thats the right amt.) per year. He was kidnapped for a $1 million dollar ran... [ More ]

Reply #1

ThatScaryChick — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:35:09 GMT

Honestly, I've never gave it much thought whether any billionaires or millionaires are hounded. I don't really keep track of the Forbes list or anything. However, I am sure that those people who are in that status group have been harassed or bothered once or twice.

Anonymity a Sheild for Not Being Hounded

mylollipop — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:52:49 GMT

As I reviewed the Forbes list of the top billionaires in the US, I wondered if any of them are ever hounded for money. IF they are, I have never heard of it, nor do I hear of their family members being kidnapped for ransom money. Just never heard it. Then the millionaires in the nine figures, never heard of them being harassed either. If I ever won, maybe I would say, I will match what (whatever millionaire or billionaire I chose) gives you. If the billionaire complied....Oh the problems of havi... [ More ]