Think Outside The Box

Reply #27

RJOh — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:24:38 GMT

Looks like Thinking out side the box is done. Time to get back to what we know best. We may not win a lottery jackpot but we already know that.

Reply #26

RJOh — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:04:41 GMT

I'm creating and rejecting combinations with a RNG as needed. Creating a file with all the combinations would take a lot of time and space even thought a 5/56 file with less than 4M combinations might seem small when compared to a 6/49 file of 14M combinations that covers the combinations in the local state game.

The percentages that I used applied to the last 430 MM drawings which should be a representative sample of all 3,819,816 combinations.

Reply #25

GASMETERGUY — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:26:45 GMT

Repeats is a good pattern to study. I will add that to my odd/even sum pattern and see what I can see.

Reply #24

x1kosmic — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:23:59 GMT

I don't know if it's outside the box or not,

but if you haven't seen a repeat in about 2 or 3 draws, you can probably start expecting one

for tn. pick 5 for fun. like copper-2 cash 3 (repeat city).

Reply #23

pick4hawk — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:28:18 GMT

RJOh

Are you using these break downs with an RNG or files of the entire amount of combination that fit your restrictions?

Hawk

Reply #22

RJOh — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:31:35 GMT

If I could convince myself of the obvious:

1. I would be lucky to win a lottery jackpot once in a lifetime.

2. I don't play enough combinations to match the overall odds of getting a win.

then it might be easier for me to play using a smaller number pool and expect to win only when a narrowly defined condition exists. For example I defined MM patterns as such using the lettering system I mentioned in my earlier post.

#2 THERE WERE 6 DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS IN THE 430 COMBINATIONS.... [ More ]

Reply #21

GASMETERGUY — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:08:11 GMT

RJOH

You have made this observation many times on LP and when I first read about it I spent several years experimenting with your orginial description and, later on, several variations of it. I found nothing with any degree of continuity; nothing I could hang my hat on . The resulting number of combinations was just too large to be of practical use.

One variation I had divided the pools into 12 groups with vowels and consonants. I used 12 because that would reduce the number of combination... [ More ]

Reply #20

time*treat — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:23:33 GMT

Which game type

Reply #19

NEEO — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:29:05 GMT

man...I do alot of programing and can program things in excel that would blow your mind...all i need is fresh ideas and trends people notice outside of skip/hit chart, integration and derivative algorythms, etc. these are all the traditional thinking.....i think when u use equations as such...u are just fighting against the stone

Reply #18

RJOh — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:50:26 GMT

I guess you could say anyone who wins a lottery jackpot with a combination they picked predicted a random event, but what are the odds of that happening? Probably about the same as someone getting lucky and winning a lottery jackpot with a quick pick although there are those who would argue that the odds of doing either are not the same.

There are those who've won a jackpot with combinations they've played forever saying I knew those numbers would hit when the conditions were right so it can... [ More ]

Reply #17

Stalyn — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:55:19 GMT

I would like to know this also.

Reply #16

pick4hawk — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:10:27 GMT

Then Predicting random might be done then if conditions are right

Reply #15

edge — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:07:49 GMT

agree with you can't predict random but to a degree you can predict favourable condition, but you need to keep your position short (similar to trading on the exchange floor) meaning you gather your data and enter game on high jackpot, some simple statistics data (not using large sample historical set) and exit, no excessive wheeling, blind quick picks etc, set maximum loss scenerio, do most on the paper and prepare for a long haul, exit immediately on the jackpot drop, in other words do very ver... [ More ]

Reply #14

rcbbuckeye — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:55:32 GMT

I have found that certain groups of numbers or decades play more often in a particular position than others. Obviously, singles (1-9) play most often in the first position. I take it a step further and analyze the teens, 20's, and so on. Even though this reduces the odds a lot, the problem is that the games have such high odds to begin with, the odds are still overwhelming. I tried playing numbers in positions that they play the most, but again, it still doesn't reduce the odds enough. I have co... [ More ]

Reply #13

DownandDirty — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:18:51 GMT

To whom it may concern....

When have you thought out of the box?

The only thing you seem to do (everytime someone new comes on here) with some enthusiasm and new ideas is to:

1) Assume they are some sort of phony scammer

2) Offer your usual deadpan Well ...have you won anything consistently with your idea

Reply #12

RJOh — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:35:11 GMT

Any ideas about what to research regarding patterns would be most welcomed.

I've alway thought if someone had an idea that they weren't willing to research themselves before mentioning it, it wasn't worth being researched by some one else.

I too have looked at patterns of winning numbers but first I had to come up with a way to define them. I divided the number pools into 2, 3, 4 and 5 groups and assigned letters A B C D E and F to them. Such groups did show certain patterns defined that w... [ More ]

Reply #11

GASMETERGUY — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:50:54 GMT

I agree. So we need to look past the numbers, past the mathematical aspects of numbers and into something else.

Filters have been discussed and found wanting in only one respect: they filter out the winning numbers most of the time. While this is true, filters ( patterns, I call them ) seem to be the best avenue to explore. How best to explore them is now the question.

I have been tracking patterns now for many years ( 11 to be precise ) and have yet to find even one aspect of continuity

Reply #10

ironcheese — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:13:10 GMT

People shouldn't let their noses run all over the place!

Nosy people, having out burst of mystical Visions with no reasonable explanations or logical methods belong in the Mystical asylum forum.

Reply #9

ironcheese — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:40:48 GMT

Did someone drop this

Reply #8

chouquounette — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:35:32 GMT

865 midday TN 8/3

Reply #7

RJOh — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:20:35 GMT

Why not comment in threads already started by LP members sharing their strategies

Reply #6

chouquounette — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:33:08 GMT

Excuse me for trying to suggest that the 68 pair is on its way to TN..... My nose should and will stay in GA! All the best....

Reply #5

NEEO — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:52:59 GMT

all i am saying is let's compare ideas..and derive new strategies

Reply #4

emilyg — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:12:33 GMT

Tn night 328

Reply #3

Stalyn — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:58:15 GMT

We need more details, how can you see it? By you saying you see the 68 pair is not helping no one on a random number game.

Reply #2

chouquounette — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:30:05 GMT

I see the 68 pair for TN...but who knows! Good luck

Reply #1

RJOh — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:07:01 GMT

Thinking outside the box is not unique at LP. Quite a few members including myself have come up with unorthodox ways of looking at past lottery results to try predicting the next winning combinations but our guesses have been no better than those of a RNG. Anyone who thinks he can predict a random event or come up with a strategy to trap the next winning lottery numbers in a group of combinations is thinking outside the box.

Think Outside The Box

NEEO — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:42:36 GMT

I HAVE been studying the TN lottery and other lotteries for a while and i come to a conclusion, that trying to crack all lotteries with various statistical disciplines seem benighn...so i have a suggestion...can everyone just sit back and brainstorm on a new way of looking at these systems without using statistical formulas because to me i think that's what is holding everyone back, which is trying to implement this formula and that formula.. the funny thing is people can crack satellite system,... [ More ]