Digit System Filters (Another Angle)

Reply #28

jimmy4164 — Sun, 14 Nov 2010 07:38:33 GMT

LANTERN,

(Sorry for the delay in answering; I overlooked your question.)

You said, 3 numbers on only 2 lines, the odds are 1 to 88 lines, well Jimmy what is up with this?

Nothing. I find it incredible that anyone with access to the huge cache of lottery results that we have here coupled with the availability of many superb books on probability and combinatorics and cheap home computers, would still persist in believing that the results you pointed to above are unusual and not to be exp... [ More ]

Reply #27

LANTERN — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 05:41:08 GMT

Hi!

Remember that test?

No tickets were bought for it at all, but this morning I bought 2 TxCash5 numbers, but not on the same ticket, 1 got only 1 number right on one and the other, this one got 3 numbers right:

Yes, I have a very nice scanner, it is one of the best.

The winning number is:

Cash Five

11/11/2010

5-22-25-27-34

The other cash 5 only got the 34 number right.

3 numbers on only 2 lines, the odds are 1 to 88 lines, well Jimmy what is up with this?

The... [ More ]

Reply #26

dr san — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:32:35 GMT

Hi rl randonic, is only a question, your system works well also in draw the where

Do I number him/it is not separate for digits? The is been where it is draw, they change a draw of a system of I type separate in the following draw he numbers is junto?eu think every game

Of lotus if he/she can foresee from 60% to 80% with accuracy the others they are aleat rios,alias that is in all bad luck games can - if he/she foresees certain point mathematically even later it is random, for this if you

Reply #25

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:03:50 GMT

Jimmy

Lets say that I gave you a power ball ticket and told you with 100% certaintythat 5 of the numbers were on the ticket.

This is a math question and is ment to show the rather large difference between a 2nd level prize and the

jackpot even with a certain amount of known data. The 100% certainty, well the only way would be some

sort of time travel or other method that could allow one to see the future or maybe a tip from the RNG

programmer. This was not the point of the

Reply #24

jimmy4164 — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 06:52:51 GMT

RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

Sorry, but I can't agree that all of my statements above in this thread mean nothing. Can we just disagree?

Lets say that I gave you a power ball ticket and told you with 100% certaintythat 5 of the numbers were on the ticket.

Wow! That would be an incredible claim, and I would really be curious about the basis of your certainty.

I won't release what I am working on now because itis unfinished and partly because of what would happen to the lottery.

This worries... [ More ]

Reply #23

joker17 — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 02:45:22 GMT

@ Jimmy..........Quote below...

does it make any logical sense to you that components of the labels painted or glued on the balls are of any significance in a lottery draw?

So are you saying you want Lottery drawings to occur without any numbers on the balls?

How the heck will we ever know what the winning numbers were?....DUH!!!!

I truly thought you were smarter than that Jimmy...

Reply #22

LANTERN — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 17:26:41 GMT

I just did a 1 week test of a program that can give predictions for the cash 5 and other lottery games, I only tested the TxCash 5 this particular time and it did better than any random quick picks would have been able to do, no question about it:

For example:

The Tx lottery site has that the odds of getting 2 digits right on it 1-37 cash 5 are: 1:9

The odds on 3 digits right are: 1:88

A website says that the odds of getting 1 digit right are: 2.42

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Otherwis... [ More ]

Reply #21

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:17:09 GMT

jimmy jack

Still can't find anyone who want's to play your game, keep trying I am sure there is someone

out there. Since you still feel the need to attack my digit system I must attemp to convence

you of the error of your ways. Eyerything posted above about the symbols or graphics means

nothing and shows your total lack of understanding. Around 20 members and I have formed

a private group where we can talk about the digit system without your comments cluttering

up the yard. I p... [ More ]

Reply #20

jimmy4164 — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 06:38:36 GMT

GASMETERGUY,

The only difference between what I believe and what you stated in your first 2 paragraphs is that I would probably assign a much lower probability to the chances of success at predicting the future than you would. The theory of General Relativity pretty much precludes it in our lifetime since we travel so slow relative to the speed of light. If scientific advances put crystal balls and time travel on the table, I doubt if lottery players will get the first crack at them.

As f... [ More ]

Reply #19

GASMETERGUY — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 00:51:41 GMT

Let me state my position in another way. If pictures (or some eually obtruse system) is employed in any endeavor (i.e. lotto), we will translate whatever appears into a language. Math is as much a language as English, Spanish, or Hindu. Once we have established a language we can manipulate those objects to our hearts content.

I realize what you are saying; that there is no proven, infallable method for predicting the future and you are right. Today there is no way. Very intelligent people hav... [ More ]

Reply #18

LANTERN — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 06:12:12 GMT

Well, it is Finito for me here, as I right now have no more to say about this.

Good Luck

Reply #17

jimmy4164 — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 06:05:49 GMT

LANTERN,

And to quote you from above,

Quote: Originally posted by LANTERN on November 6, 2010

You might call such relationships, Coincidental , but as I always said, What Really Matters are Results regardless of how you get them.

The proof is in the pudding

--Jimmy4164

Reply #16

LANTERN — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 05:59:26 GMT

Characteristics by themselves don't have predictive ability, it is The Right Interpretation Of their Patterns that have the predictive ability.

Reply #15

LANTERN — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 05:51:02 GMT

What is called Labels there don't have Predictive Ability

What might have Predictive Ability is a good Statistical Prediction Technique

What that person and very many more don't have is An Understanding Of Statistical Prediction .

You might be reading posts by people who have no understanding of the prediction process.

Reply #14

LANTERN — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 05:40:15 GMT

Let us talk about animals in general.

Are they Sea, Land or Air Animals or are they Amphibians?

Do they breathe air or get their air from the water?

Are they Invertebrates or Vertebrates?

Are they Fish, Birds, Reptiles, Insects, Mammals, Rodents, Cetaceans, Primates, Arachnids, Crustaceans, Marsupials, Arthropods, Mollusks, Annelids, Echinoderms or Protozoa?

Are they: Very Small, Small, Medium Size, Big or Very Big?

Are they very soft, soft, medium, hard or very hard?

Do

Reply #13

jimmy4164 — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 05:39:50 GMT

LANTERN,

Characteristics of Digits. When you think about the opening post to this thread, which showed how completely arbitrary the labeling of balls in a Lotto game is, doesn't it seem just a little bit bordering on the absurd to attribute some sort of predictive ability to the results of cutting apart these labels, and then adding and subtracting and counting the results of these splittings and splicings?

Another member addressed this point quite well earlier on.

https://www.lotterypo... [ More ]

Reply #12

jimmy4164 — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 05:24:52 GMT

Lantern,

This I can agree with.

Unfortunately, RESULTS are sorely lacking here.

But then, this doesn't surprise me at all.

--Jimmy4164

Reply #11

LANTERN — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 05:04:30 GMT

I am aware of what might be called Chance Relationships .

Again, Prediction-Wise what counts are Prediction Technique and its Results.

Reply #10

LANTERN — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:57:33 GMT

You might call such relationships, Coincidental , but as I always said, What Really Matters are Results regardless of how you get them.

The proof is in the pudding

Reply #9

LANTERN — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:51:27 GMT

I would not, I need a better Base Ground

Digits can be given sets of characteristics such as:

Low, High, Even, Odd, In, Out, and when combined then: Width, Sums, Last Digits Of Sums, Roots, Pairs, Triads, Quads, Decades, Etc.

Reply #8

LANTERN — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:46:14 GMT

Yes, and it is because we give the digits and numbers Characteristics

Reply #7

jimmy4164 — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:44:16 GMT

LANTERN,

If you do better with VTracks, then by all means use them, otherwise use pictures of animals, colors or whatever else you do best with.

But I don't do well with ANY of these methods. My question above was how you would predict with 39 animal pictures to work with.

--Jimmy4164

Reply #6

jimmy4164 — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:36:47 GMT

LANTERN,

Does their Relationship strengthen after numerical assignments are made to replace the animal pictures?

--Jimmy4164

Reply #5

LANTERN — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:27:20 GMT

The numbers given to the balls are just symbols as stated before by so many including myself, what matters is what works, whatever it might be, if a binary (Two Counts) counting system works best for you prediction technique or method then by all means use it, otherwise use some other counting system, 4, 8, 10, 12, 16, 36 or whatever.

A good enough prediction technique is what really counts.

If you do better with VTracks, then by all means use them, otherwise use pictures of animals, color... [ More ]

Reply #4

LANTERN — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:15:38 GMT

I don't know how very many times I have already said this, but here we go again:

Statistics is the Glue that relates otherwise unrelated events; I might have not said it exactly like so, but close enough.

Only Statistically are Balls and or Numbers related to each other, but related they for sure are, believe it or not.

I have shown this before some times on some Old posts of mine.

Reply #3

jimmy4164 — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:34:41 GMT

GASMETERGUY,

If you have 12 patterns which can be either true or false, you have 4096 possiblilities using base 2 and 16,777,216 possibilities using base 4.

In the current context, it's not clear to me what point you're trying to make with this statement.

In any event, it appears you really do believe there are relationships among the balls, relationships that are discoverable by merely assigning an arbitrary order to them. Let's say you have a Lotto machine in your living room with 3... [ More ]

Reply #2

GASMETERGUY — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 01:48:53 GMT

Yes, there is a significance. Should the lottery in China use pictures of animals in their lottery we, as serious lotto players, would assign a numerical value with each animal dipicted. We would convert those meaningless objects into a numerical language (which would then give meaning to them). With a language (and math is a language) we can then go where Angels fear to tread .

There is only one ball with the number one (1) written on it. When you see the number 1 you can safely assume you h... [ More ]

Reply #1

Todd — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:11:28 GMT

Digit System Filters (Another Angle)

jimmy4164 — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 05:59:18 GMT

I'm sure everyone is aware that the Base 10 number system used in much of the world today is used arbitrarily. There is no compelling reason to use Base 10, other than the fact that it evolved from our primitive ancestors counting on their fingers and is now so ingrained in our commerce and culture that it would be very difficult to change to another. Here are some links for those interested in reading more on this topic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numeral_system

http://wiki.answers... [ More ]