Do not get burned by this service station!

Reply #31

four4me — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 20:54:20 GMT

I'm not taking up for anybody I have stated what I know to be facts based on experience myself having been in the same similar situation as you. When it happened to me I blew my top at the vendor the owner of the store and the lottery reps.

I am not a dealer I am just another old man who spends a great deal of time talking to vendors, lottery agents, lottery personnel, people who play the lottery, people who have won. I spent the last thirty years doing it.

I won 9 grand on a scratch off a... [ More ]

Reply #30

CarHauler — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:42:52 GMT

I guess I need to go ahead and see if he actually has a certificate of authorization. That will at least give me some more information. My guess is that he does not have one. That guy has always been over solicitous in the past. He as seemed like he was trying too hard.

Reply #29

CarHauler — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:35:07 GMT

I think I will display yet even another GA law.

TITLE 50. STATE GOVERNMENT

CHAPTER 27. LOTTERY FOR EDUCATION

ARTICLE 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS

O.C.G.A. 50-27-23 (2010)

50-27-23. Restrictions on sale of tickets or shares; price; gifts and promotions

(a) No person shall sell a ticket or share at a price other than established by the corporation unless authorized in writing by the chief executive officer. No person other than a duly certified lottery retailer shall sell lottery

Reply #28

CarHauler — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:47:23 GMT

It doesn't matter HOW many tickets he has..I'm a manager at a gas station (not the owner) and the owners usually only had 5-8 books of tickets at a time.

Yes, but I bet you have several hundred tickets altogether, not less than a dozen. I would think nothing of a store that had 8 books of tickets, especially if it was in a slow area. I have been in this store three times, over the period of a couple months. The first time, I bought the last two tickets he had, in the entire store. Meaning tha... [ More ]

Reply #27

danyo1332 — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:40:52 GMT

It doesn't matter HOW many tickets he has..I'm a manager at a gas station (not the owner) and the owners usually only had 5-8 books of tickets at a time. Why? Because they are low on money because they put so much $ into the store with repairs that the PREVIOUS owners did fix. Yes it is wrong that the remaining 2 tickets were missing, but its not for SURE they were winners. The owner can do what he wants with them, he paid for them. When the retailers buy the tickets, it comes out of their bank... [ More ]

Reply #26

danyo1332 — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:35:41 GMT

Reply #25

CarHauler — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 05:36:34 GMT

There it is. Georgia law. Not my opinion, but actual facts which are irrefutable.

In my opinion, this dishonest store probably already has its license pulled. If not, I imagine it will be soon. I need to see if he is in any violation of any cease and desist orders. The three bold items are conduct that this store has clearly demonstrated.

Reply #24

CarHauler — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 05:32:29 GMT

TITLE 50. STATE GOVERNMENT

CHAPTER 27. LOTTERY FOR EDUCATION

ARTICLE 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS

O.C.G.A. 50-27-20 (2010)

50-27-20. Cancellation, suspension, revocation, or termination of retail contracts

(a) Any retail contract executed by the corporation pursuant to this chapter shall specify the reasons for which a contract may be canceled, suspended, revoked, or terminated by the corporation, which reasons shall include but not be limited to:

(1) Commission of a violatio... [ More ]

Reply #23

CarHauler — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 04:21:10 GMT

What I said about 4X4, I still want to know where he gets his information. I am not saying that he is wrong, what I am saying is that either he is wrong, or many other posters on LP are wrong. The truth of the matter is that I am not 100% certain who owns the packs, and I freely admit it, but he was presenting his opinion as fact, even though he stated that he has never been a lottery retailer, nor could he cite where he got his information. Saying that you have seen owners scratch books from bo... [ More ]

Reply #22

CarHauler — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 04:16:38 GMT

I read this post and somehow missed your first one. I just naturally assumed that you were trying to insult me. I did not intend on insulting anyone on here, I just felt like you were trying to make me look like an idiot. I obviously do not have anywhere near the experience that you have, so please forgive me for over-reacting. The truth is that I am new to all of this, and I thought you were trying to belittle me. I just got a little snip y after these back to back wins and got a big head.

Y... [ More ]

Reply #21

CarHauler — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 03:36:09 GMT

Sorry, I did not read this post before I responded to your next post. I will respond to it now, part by part, because you bring up a lot of good points.

I can understand how you might feel that the book was not even distributed fairly, but its not always true that a decent winner is at the front/back of the book. For example, I have won $1,000 several times now and every one of them was in the middle of the book range. I have won $500 probably 15-20 times and the majority of them were #'d 10... [ More ]

Reply #20

B$Rizzle — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:33:33 GMT

I stopped reading after your cheap jab here:

I have won big winners (to me at least, but not the great B$Rizzle, whoanything less than a jackpot is chicken feed, and who because you wonthe jackpot knows everything about lotteries that are not even in your state) three times within 2 weeks, and guess what?

You started a thread and wanted to discuss what happened, yet when people try to give you feedback or have a discussion you make cheap jabs? I 'm not even going to waste my time wi... [ More ]

Reply #19

CarHauler — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:24:43 GMT

I did it again, except I waited too late to edit my post. The save changes button was pressed past the 20 minute mark, but I began typing before the 20 minute limit was up. The 20 minutes in my opinion should begin once the edit button has been pressed, that should be taken into consideration. I wish that when you had to press the back button that it would at least allow you to go back to where you were, so you could cut and paste the information into another file, or re-post it as a new post in... [ More ]

Reply #18

CarHauler — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:19:15 GMT

Clark Howard is a leading consumer advocate, he is a nationally syndicated talk show host, and the home is WSB radio 750 AM, and 95.5 FM. He even has his own television show, I do believe that it is on CNN. He has recommended numerous times that someone should picket dishonest businesses, and he has asked callers if they have any young children. One caller replied that he had small grandchildren. Clark replied that he should first check out local laws regarding picketing, city ordinances and suc... [ More ]

Reply #17

temptustoo — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:38:37 GMT

I think you should contact a lottery official . they will check all of this out for you. they have ways to control and find out if this is what has happened.. But please don't involve your children in this.. I know your pissed and I would be as well.. Good Luck to you and I hope this matter gets resolved soon..

Reply #16

CarHauler — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:38:28 GMT

In response to b$Rizzle, No I don't think all of the prizes are at the first of the roll, just a quite a few of them. All I asked was for honesty, but I did not ask, it was implied. I have trusted the lottery up until this point. Not to win in every certain number of tickets, but to be given a fair chance. Think about it for a moment, if the last tickets in the book never had any big winners in them, then they would just sit on the shelf with no one buying them. I have over 60 that say that they... [ More ]

Reply #15

TheOtherOne — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:18:00 GMT

Nice! I am glad it worked!

I hope you hit the next JP as well, and congrats on the $150 hit too

Reply #14

CarHauler — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:15:52 GMT

Thank you very much! I owe you one. I did not know that command existed. Undo is not a right click context menu item in LP, so I did not know there was a way, other than the restore button, which failed me. Thanks a million! I hope you hit the jackpot in whatever you play! That got it back. I am sure that if I had hit submit, it would have been gone forever.

Reply #13

TheOtherOne — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:11:09 GMT

ouch.

i hate when that happens.

did you try Control Z (undo)?

Otherwise I dont know what you could try

Reply #12

CarHauler — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:08:31 GMT

Please Please help LotteryPost!!!! I just accidentally hit control V instead of control C, after I had hi-lighted the post and was going to put it into Word to save before posting! That erased everything I had just written over the last 30 minutes. The restore button failed to help me!!!! Help!!! Those dams restores happen way too fast!!! I did not have time to realize my mistake, before it saved a new restore point, overwriting all of my hard work. Those restore points do not need to be more of... [ More ]

Reply #11

B$Rizzle — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:08:31 GMT

This guarantees him near 100% profit!

carhauler, it is the lottery. Dont for one second think that he is gaurenteed his profits back by buying which ones he thinks will be winners..

On a side note, I won a jackpot on a $10 scratch-off 2 years ago in Florida. Ticket # 003....if I went by your logic and thought only the first 3 (000,001,002) were winners, I would have never won the amount that I did. The lottery is very random. Most of the $10 and $20 games here in FL usually have... [ More ]

Reply #10

CarHauler — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:07:43 GMT

No, actually I spent more than that at other retailers and lost all of my money. I even wasted money on another $20 ticket. All in all, I lost around $90 yesterday, but that was after shopping at this one place. The one and only reason that I am upset with this guy is that the tickets were missing, and out of order. If I had spent $70, and had purchased all 7 (numbered 006, 005, 004, 003, 002, 001, 000) and lost, I would have been fine with that. At least I would have known that it was my own fa... [ More ]

Reply #9

CarHauler — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:48:29 GMT

Let me clarify one thing. This guy never has more than a dozen tickets in his store at a time. As in he had five Jingle Jumbo Bucks it turns out, and a small stack of $1 tickets. One other time I was in there I bought the last two of the book , and that was all of the tickets he had. Another time, I very intelligently passed up the offer to buy the very last two tickets of the book. The funny thing is that this time around they were tickets 028 and 029. If I had bought those and lost, I'd have b... [ More ]

Reply #8

B$Rizzle — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:38:02 GMT

Now its starting to sound like you are just pissed off because you lost $40 bux.

You even stated yourself you knew which # ticket you were buying, so its not like the retailer gave you the wrong ticket. I have a feeling you would still be upset no matter what # the ticket was on, just because the retailer bought some himself and he took your chance of winning .

Tomorrow is another day, and there are thousands of other retailers in GA

Reply #7

B$Rizzle — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:31:24 GMT

I can understand how you might feel that the book was not even distributed fairly, but its not always true that a decent winner is at the front/back of the book. For example, I have won $1,000 several times now and everyone of them was in the middle of the book range. I have won $500 probably 15-20 times and the majority of them were #'d 10-30 range.

I'm sure there thousands of retailers that have customers coming into their stores and scratching back-to-back losers, and as soon as they... [ More ]

Reply #6

CarHauler — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:26:15 GMT

It sounds to me like you are a very dirty retailer yourself, taking up for this guy, instead of telling me how to get his license revoked, For all I know, you might be this retailer.

Reply #5

four4me — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:04:22 GMT

Don't believe everything you hear on here.

Un-cashed lottery scratch tickets belong to the purchaser of the books.

If a seller goes out of business the lottery claims all their equipment any moneys due to them they may reimburse the seller for unsold lottery tickets to clear their debt with them. Stores that sell lottery enter into a partnership with the lottery for ticket sales.

Some and i mean some places might get scratchoffs on consignment. As far as i know the lottery might ship bo... [ More ]

Reply #4

TheOtherOne — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:01:51 GMT

Keep us posted CarHauler -- I hope they get in trouble for this.

If he had bought the first 2 (001 and 000) and let the rest of them go, that would be one thing and you wouldnt know it.

But the fact that he 'burned both ends of the candle' is truly unfair.

However, keep in mind that 000 and 001 are not ALWAYS going to be winners. However, like you said, the clerk should have let you know that those 2 tickets had already been purchased.

I will be interested to see how this turns out a... [ More ]

Reply #3

CarHauler — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:20:21 GMT

I do not know if this is true, then how can the lottery demand that you return the tickets if a game ends, or the store closes, or when they revoke your license to sell tickets? They would not have that right if they were not the owners of the tickets.

Don't worry, I will not be shopping there ever again, and I will do everything I possibly can to divert business away from them. What the clerk did was extremely unethical. He led me to believe that there was a winner in the pack, when he alre... [ More ]

Reply #2

four4me — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:19:46 GMT

As far as i know when you are an agent for the lottery they don't give you ticket books to sell for them you the agent buys the books and sells them to the public. The lottery money the store takes in pays for the winners except of course the big money winners. So as an agent and owner of the tickets he/she can take whichever tickets they want since their paid for.

I've seen store owners do this they take tickets from the front and back of the books that they like.

I avoid buying tic... [ More ]

Reply #1

MattfromPA — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:14:51 GMT

That is certainly big time fraud. Thanks for doing this, and give updates on your quest to get justice.

Do not get burned by this service station!

CarHauler — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 06:51:36 GMT

DO NOT SHOP AT THE SHELL SERVICE STATION LISTED BELOW, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES:

SHELL

2898 JOHNSON FERRY RD

MARIETTA, GA 30062-5679

770-641-7658

This station is located on the northeast corner of Johnson Ferry Road, at the intersection of Lassiter Road. There is a standard Shell logo on the sign in front of the business. I walked into this location at approximately 8:45 pm, the evening of December 15, 2010. I inquired about the Jingle Jumbo Bucks instant tickets that were in the bin... [ More ]