"Non-Standard" Filters

Reply #17

Ramijami — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:33:01 GMT

JustBasic was the one programming language that I could actually make sense of, and the help the guys gave at the forum is excellant

Yep, the shock of too many numbers left over. I am looking at a number of filters and optimum ranges as well as a reduced numbers list as a strategy to play, targeting the Jackpot as well as the 4/5 number wins..........hopefully I will get the right combination of filter settings to at least break even initially, and then move from there progressively

Reply #16

time*treat — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:15:37 GMT

Looked up JustBASIC -- seems like it has just about all you'd need. Really like the syntax coloring, too. I use Notepad++ for that. Can't beat the price, either.

Now for your filtering, it's easy to pare down the first 95%~98%. The first shock comes when you hit that wall and realize just how many combinations are left in 2% of 13.98 million.

Since the sums are static for each combination, it is possible to calculate them ONCE for each combo and make a histogram of the results. The histo... [ More ]

Reply #15

Ramijami — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:59:05 GMT

Thanks JKING......makes a bit more sense now :-)

time*treat, I am also in the other group that write their own code.....I'm still fairly new to programmimg but at least I know enough to test a few things (I programme in justbasic).

The filters I am currently looking at are:choosing one of even/odd for sums, one of even/odd for rootsums, and one of even/odd for the line gap sum. It eliminates quite a bit of lines, but to get the correct even/odd choice for the three is a bit of a chal... [ More ]

Reply #14

dr san — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:25:57 GMT

Hello, some participant of the forum, gets do this study? Example = in a

lottery 01 to 49 with draw of 6 numbers to See which trio is better in this

position 2,4,5, or stop and blocks In the 6 positions, in the trios have 20

positions Posi es=1,2,3,4,5,6

Reply #13

time*treat — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:37:53 GMT

For complete 3rd party software, you'd have to ask some of the others, or do a search .

I'm in the other group here -- those that write our own code.

Some use C++. Flavors of BASIC seem to be most popular. I use VBA under Excel.

It works out that we can kick around concepts without getting bogged down in the syntax of each language. Sometimes getting bogged down in the syntax of each other can be a different matter.

Reply #12

JKING — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:39:52 GMT

Hi,

To understand the table....

A

22,24,30,31,41,48

31,33,39,41,42,48

2,9,11,14,27,32

B

6,8,30,31,42,48

6,13,28,32,37,49

2,3,11,16,30,37

Look at the numbers you supplied. They are in sets of 3 games.

For game set B:

2,3,8,11,13,16,28,31,32,42,48,49 ocuccred once

6,30,37 occurred twice

all other numbers in your lotter pool occurred zero times

So, when the next game is played 2,9,11,14,27,32 you have..

2-with 1 occurrence from game set B

9-with 0... [ More ]

Reply #11

Ramijami — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:35:04 GMT

Thanks for the input JKING and time*treat. JKING, could you give an explanation of the table please. I am not familiar with positional occurring pattern so I am having a bit of trouble understanding the table.

time*treat, would you be able to recommend software that can analyse the patterns for pairs, or is it something that has to be done manually

Reply #10

time*treat — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:01:57 GMT

One way is finding out if certain pairs tend to show up more often than others, or soon after others. People who play P3/P4 call those followers .

Reply #9

JKING — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:32:10 GMT

Hi,

Part of what you are doing is correct. You have created a 3 game distribution pattern in which you have found that typically no number will repeat twice in 3 games. And again typically, only one or two numbers will repeat once in 3 games. The problem with is that when you consider 15 games is that the likeyhood of repeating more than twice is very much higher.

in the California Fantasy 5 game for example:

The 3 game positional occurrence pattern is-

1 2 3 4 5

0 320 304 245 1... [ More ]

Reply #8

Ramijami — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 07:55:01 GMT

Thanks Dr San.........looks like a useful filter and I will definitely add it to my toolbox.

time*treat, thanks for the suggestion and the breakdown. How would you use this information to filter? I am currently using the top 20 pairs and lowest 20 pairs to filter, but it's still new so haven't checked on it's success yet.

relowe........I am not using the 15 draws to select numbers, I use them to filter ALREADY selected numbers. For example, say I want to play combinations from my alr... [ More ]

Reply #7

relowe — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:31:29 GMT

Hi Ramajami,

Your basic premise as I understand it is that you are expecting numbers at the next draw to have been drawn within the last 15 draws. Without doing a back test I imagine this would be close to what is happening. So then the issue is - Is how can I best arrange the numbers? I understand your grouping arrangements, but why don't you remove duplicates across the various number groups? No point having a number represented more than once is there? Second question - by which means do y... [ More ]

Reply #6

time*treat — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:13:36 GMT

Sure. Taken from Ramijami's list:

22,24,30,31,41,48

pairs 22,24 22,30 22,31 22,41 22,48

24,30 24,31 24,41 24,48 30,31

30,41 30,48 31,41 31,48 41,48

triples 22,24,30 22,24,31 22,24,41 22,24,48 22,30,31

22,30,41 22,30,48 22,31,41 22,31,48 22,41,48

24,30,31 24,30,41 24,30,48 24,31,41 24,31,48

24,41,48 30,31,41 30,31,48 30,41,48 31,41,48

Reply #5

Guru101 — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:39:46 GMT

Can you give an example

Reply #4

time*treat — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:58:14 GMT

A 6 ball game has 15 pairs and 20 triples per drawing.

Reply #3

dr san — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:16:28 GMT

Hello RAMIJANI, you could include in the study example

Equal and equal 02,04,08,20,22 24,26...

Odd and odd 11,13,15,17,19,31,....

Equal and odd 01,03,05,07,09 ,23.....

Odd and equal 12,14,16,18......

RAMIJANI, to do of a lottery from 01 to 49, to complete the list (to classify)

The where equal and pair is the digits of the right or endings and I type front

These 4 conditions will always be the same numbers

Example =

01,05,24,32 ,37

Equal and par=24

Odd and impar

Reply #2

Ramijami — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:26:07 GMT

Hi JKING,

Example as requested, using SA Lotto History, 15 Draws BEFORE Saturdays draw.

A

22,24,30,31,41,48

31,33,39,41,42,48

2,9,11,14,27,32

B

6,8,30,31,42,48

6,13,28,32,37,49

2,3,11,16,30,37

C

6,19,24,26,38,49

6,10,17,27,30,32

1,8,15,24,40,42

D

1,9,23,27,28,31

8,10,14,33,45,48

7,17,34,37,38,39

E

18,22,33,35,41,46

15,23,26,40,42,46

12,19,25,26,28,40

3 Draws in A gives -- 22, 24, 30, 31, 41, 48, 33, 39, 42, 2, 9, 11, 14,

Reply #1

JKING — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:52:47 GMT

Hi,

A detailed 15 game example would be nice. *S

"Non-Standard" Filters

Ramijami — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:57:22 GMT

Hi Guys,

Which non-standard filters do members use in Jackpot games to reduce lines? The standard filters are usually sums, even/odd, high/low etc. One I am using at the moment is groups of draws, using the last 15 draws, dividing into 5 sets of 3 (so 1-3 is one set, 4-6 is another set, etc) and limiting to a maximum of 4 numbers from these 14-18 numbers (duplicates eliminated) in my combination selected. Backtesting in my lotto has given a 9/10 success with this filter. I am looking to se... [ More ]