Follower math?

Reply #14

JosephusMinimus — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:34:36 GMT

lakerben: If the question was directed to me the answer is probably different than it would be if it's directed to someone else. KH sparked my renewed interest in the question and I've done some work in EXCEL on a 'mechanical' approach somewhat as described above by RL. I used the Lottery Director histories to compile the histories for 13-14 lotteries, imported them to EXCEL, spread the draw results out 40 columns wide to allow them to be more easily filtered and sorted.

Then I copied all tho... [ More ]

Reply #13

lakerben — Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:54:59 GMT

Is this program available

Reply #12

JosephusMinimus — Fri, 27 May 2011 19:58:05 GMT

Let me know what version of EXCEL you have. I'll save to that version and re-upload it.

Reply #11

JosephusMinimus — Fri, 27 May 2011 01:54:17 GMT

PM me if you download it and see anything there you want to discuss in more detail.

Reply #10

JosephusMinimus — Fri, 27 May 2011 01:03:36 GMT

I'm not able to tell whether you accessed the linked file. If there's a way on dropbox to find out I'm not aware of what it is. Anyway, I'll leave it up a couple of days. I've got enough elbow-room in the free dropbox account to leave it up that long.

Reply #9

Raven62 — Thu, 26 May 2011 16:52:35 GMT

Are you tracking Str8 or Boxed Combinations? Your example shows boxed, but I had to ask!

More often than not the boxed combination that follows the last drawn boxed combination has not followed the last drawn combination before. However the combination that follows the last drawn combination usually has a high skip value.

Reply #8

CARBOB — Thu, 26 May 2011 14:03:17 GMT

KH,

Thanks for the explanation. I use followers,also. In the image, first table are hits, second table, skips.

Reply #7

JosephusMinimus — Thu, 26 May 2011 11:52:27 GMT

I PMed you a file link to something I was kicking around a while back and never got around to following through with where it was headed. The formulas are still on it, but it's EXCEL and I don't know whether you'll be able to load it. Maybe it will give you some ideas for looking at it in ways you mightn't have otherwise. If you can't load it let me know.

Reply #6

KnuckleHead — Thu, 26 May 2011 04:05:55 GMT

Hello CARBOB,

I may have my terminology incorrect, again, but I refer to followers as the number in the next draw.

An example would be:

3 4 5 (Currently drawn numbers.)

6 7 8 (Previously drawn numbers.)

I track each number in it's own column, and a new row is inserted so that all current draws are added to the top of the list. To me, the 3 would follow the 6. The 4 would follow the 7. And the 5 would follow the 8. I realize that some, or most of you are tracking by the complete nu... [ More ]

Reply #5

CARBOB — Wed, 25 May 2011 21:11:56 GMT

KH,

Explain this and please give examples.

The percentage numbers are quite different.

For instance: In the Frequency tables, the highest percentage shows up more often. But, in the Skips table, the lowest percentage number appears to show up more often. (I'm describing a Pick 3 game here.)

When you say followers, are you referring to a

(A) digit following a digit by position or are you referring to a

(B) digit in position 2 following a digit in position one or

(C) al... [ More ]

Reply #4

KnuckleHead — Wed, 25 May 2011 20:10:28 GMT

Hello JosephusMinimus,

If you've read any of my posts concerning lottery draws, you would have understood that I don't have the education behind me that would have provided me with preconceived ideas about statistics, probabilities, etc.

I don't understand those conventions and how they work. That's why most of what I ask seems off the wall to most people.

I'm developing my ideas as I go along.

I'd be very interested to hear how others are using Followers to figure things out. I'd al... [ More ]

Reply #3

JosephusMinimus — Tue, 24 May 2011 13:21:33 GMT

Hi again KH:

I believe there are some ways of doing it using spreadsheets but they involve a person having to abandon a lot of what he believes he already knows and devoting considerable effort to areas unrelated to statistics, conventional wisdom, and off-the-shelf truisms. That's not a palatable enough concept within the LP community to allow it to be discussed in any detail on a public forum.

A few people I communicate with off-list are pursuing one facet of it using internal math with... [ More ]

Reply #2

KnuckleHead — Sun, 22 May 2011 03:18:26 GMT

Evening RL,

Check your messages.

Reply #1

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Sat, 21 May 2011 09:37:27 GMT

KH

Not heard from you in awhile, how is everything going. I use to use followers by first taking the numbers

from the current draw then tracking what hit in the next draw after one of them was drawn using the entire

database. The wife still uses them and takes the totals and sorts them into 3 groups. Then she selects 2

numbers from the top hitters, 2 from the middle and 1 from the bottom. I don't know if this will work for p-3

but you might track it for a while and see. We also us... [ More ]

Follower math?

KnuckleHead — Fri, 20 May 2011 18:11:34 GMT

Good day all,

I've recently become aware of how follower numbers are appearing in draws. I've read several posts in the forums about followers. Does anyone know of any math or algoriths that can look at the previous draw (or a selected range) and make an educated guess about the next follower number in a draw?

I've put together a table that Ranks the number's frequencies and a Skip table that counts the number of Skips between number appearences.

The percentage numbers are quite differe... [ More ]