Here's the Thinkable Truth

Reply #18

mayhem — Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:44:01 GMT

I don't understand why using debit or credit cards is a bad thing. If you ask me, we should all be allowed to play online and use whatever payment we choose. What is the big deal? The odds are the same and the payout is the same, it is just a bit more convinient.

Reply #17

mayhem — Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:39:44 GMT

Hopefully those computers are in no way connected to any network. In fact I'm sure they are not. So the only way to break in is to be on the inside in the first place. Bad code inside the chip...

This is why strategies based on single draws are never a good idea.

Reply #16

LANTERN — Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:04:00 GMT

The more they get the more they want.

Somebody should write the book: Everything you need to know about greed, but think that you already know

And no it isn't just Tn.

50% Was not enough, it is not enough and won't be enough, as said: The more they get-make the more they want , they will never have enough, 100% still would not be enough.

Reply #15

RJOh — Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:25:51 GMT

That doesn't seem to have been the case in Massachusetts with their roll down scheme that allowed big spenders to guaranteed themselves a big win.

While states want to maximize their take of lottery money most include multi-state games which compete with their local games and players are aware of risk/benefits and odds/payouts of all these games. Tennessee may get away with something like that with their pick3/4 games who players routinely spent $10 trying to get a $50 box hit but not with th... [ More ]

Reply #14

GASMETERGUY — Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:18:29 GMT

RJOH

I do not believe any state lottery is satisfied with 50% of the ticket price. They went to computers to increase the size of their take to 75% or better.

Tennessee is considering allowing players to use their debt cards to purchase tickets. They are examining this as a way to increase their take . On the table is also using credit ( as in CREDIT) cards.

No state lottery will be satisfied with what they get. They will always want more.

Reply #13

Cupcake10 — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:56:36 GMT

My thought is someone got to win and that someone may just be me. I know it's upsetting when you don't win. You try to think of all the tricks they have up their sleeves, but just maybe it is random. I thought about it for a moment, when I heard on one of the Lottery Shows, they said most guys name Tim wins. I thought how in the world did they come up with that and how is it possible. So if your name is Tim, you may just have a chance of winning. If your name is not Tim, you may want to consider... [ More ]

Reply #12

RJOh — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:04:29 GMT

Sorry, I thought you were saying the outcomes of random drawings can't be predicted and using a system doesn't improve your odds of winning.

If you believe drawings are staged such that only combinations not played are drawn until a lottery official decides it's time to have a winner, why play at all?

By keeping 50% of the sales, lotteries win regardless of drawing outcomes. When less than 30% of the possible combinations are sold before each drawing, it's likely there are going to be lot... [ More ]

Reply #11

time*treat — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:28:43 GMT

For most lotteries, the rigging is in the payout vs natural odds relationship.

Tennessee has been known to do things ... differently.

Reply #10

thinktank — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:41:26 GMT

Rather quick pick players say it or not, I just want you to put yourself into a Lottery officials place, and ask yourself how you could make a perfect lottery system where you win, not the players, then my theory may not be so far fetched. My theory will ensure that a single game will not go so long without a winner because I control win a winner wins, and I will not be cheating the players because in essence I am still holding to the random rule, and lastly even when I decide when a player shou... [ More ]

Reply #9

RJOh — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:30:54 GMT

Your thinkable truth sounds like something quick pick players say, not systems players.

Reply #8

thinktank — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:47:15 GMT

You all could be right about the lottery, but I'm just saying in a nut-shell, that Lotteries are random, it's just how they apply random to some set variables. So, in reality a person could hit the lottery multiple times, because if the lottery took the whole population of tickets played and applied random picks to them, as I stated above, then basically it's just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. So in essence, I'm saying you could use your custom made system, or a quick p... [ More ]

Reply #7

LANTERN — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:55:57 GMT

No matter what or which numbers come out at any time, as any and everything is possible for random since the word random means anything possible.

When on Tn no pick 3 doubles came out for a long time and people complained, the state lottery said, that everything was O.K. that nothing was wrong, after all, who can say how random will behave, if it is really random, then anything is possible, it took a long time and very many more complaints for them to believe that it was possible that somethi... [ More ]

Reply #6

Iwannawinbig — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 00:51:21 GMT

Couldn't a brilliant computer hacker figure out a way to break into the lottery's computer system and make his own numbers be the winners?

I used to think the lottery was a scam, sour grapes you could say I had since I have never won anything huge, but then my sister in law's brother won 7 million in Lotto and then $13,500 in Take Five and he has won other jackpots too, but he does not discuss all his winnings, so I have no idea how much more he won. And heyyy I congratulated him on his win,... [ More ]

Reply #5

thinktank — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:39:58 GMT

You said a key word, careful , even in ball draws, they could easily implement my theory with the weight of the balls variation or whatever. The point is if you and I could think of it to be rigged in theories, they probably thought of it a billion times more, perfecting such theories, where they are not traceable. The government wouldn't oppose their rig becuase they make money off it as well.... We have to realize as a people that crime and war equals money. Peace equals broke! So guys don't t... [ More ]

Reply #4

Boney526 — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:32:21 GMT

It would be very easy for Statisticians to tell if this was the case, unless they rigged it in such a way that nothing would appear abnormal - in which case, it would basically be statistically random.

I see your point - which is why I generally trust a ball draw more than a RNG, but a ball draw can be rigged as well.

Over the course of a few hundred draws, though, any cheating would be apparent unless they were very careful to make sure that their cheating matched normal distribut... [ More ]

Reply #3

thinktank — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:28:12 GMT

one way to make lottery's fair is to not involve computers. I mean even if they did play on the time of the last ticket sold, they still could manipulate the system. I mean guys let's think about it! If they could tell you what state or local gas station the winning ticket was sold, then that's proof that they track all combinations played........it doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell you that lotteries' officials have ways of rigging the system. This country is built on lies..lol.. yet we s... [ More ]

Reply #2

thinktank — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:53:11 GMT

Thanks Big Hitter, I know how hard truth can be accepted, but I hope this helps someone. Once you think of how you can create your own lottery, and control its pay-outs, then things become clearer. That's why I don't really play neither game, but I do try to crack it, even though I know deep down that it can't be cracked. Maybe it's the saying that I heard in a video game which seems true, I believe the title of the game was DRAGON AGE , the saying was, TEMPTATION LIES IN THE FORBIDDEN!

I ha... [ More ]

Reply #1

Big Hitter — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:24:46 GMT

Good post thinktank!

I think your theory is spot on. Of course none of our upstanding and honest lottery officials would ever admit to these type of tricks, but I would bet my bottom dollar that each and every Jackpot Lottery game around the world is rigged as you describe in your theory. Don't get me wrong, the low level workers in the different lottery commisions probably have no clue that this type of stuff goes on. The big guys at the top and the independent auditors are the culprits here... [ More ]

Here's the Thinkable Truth

thinktank — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:46:49 GMT

This is only a theory! You won't crack the powerball, or RNG games like the pick 5/39 because of the following:

First let me show you how I can make my own powerball or 5/39 game, then you will see why you can't crack it because I hold all the cards and decides when it will hit. Everyone knows that most games have a cut out time where you can't buy any more tickets before the game, which is probably like an hour or two before the TV drawing. This gives me a high advantage over the players. No... [ More ]