Pre-tests vs Official Draws in Comparison

Reply #14

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:11:30 GMT

, It's much more funny now then it was then. LMAO

RL

Reply #13

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:07:17 GMT

somer

Using pre-draws in your analysis will produce different data but is the data produced easier or

more accurate to making predictions? While in my opinion pre draws are a simple means to spot

any tampering with the ball-set or the drawing apparatus, I could ponder to say that it

might also effect the offical draw. But on the same hand the draw is random and the pre-test

might work to one's favor. Before anything could be proven one would need to know the order

of which the... [ More ]

Reply #12

garyo1954 — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:52:15 GMT

Gotta love the Jimboozle, Stack!

He was fun for a PITA. Even when we disagreed, we laughed.

somer, that chart is for 1 to 37 in the Cash5 in Texas. I posted the charts for the pairs and the triples in another form in Developers thread. It might be fun to run it again and post real numbers this time. Some people like to see percentages, some like numbers.

Reply #11

Stack47 — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:17:16 GMT

this is something close to what Jimmy did to prove systems don't work. not the same.

Actually he proved it would be a bad bets to play the same number every drawing for 33 and 1/2 years and for 50,000 random players to buy $1 Pick 3 QP in 50,000 drawings.

Reply #10

Guest — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 23:35:19 GMT

your chart only shows the average hits of 0-9, but what's missing is the arrangement of numbers in combos that reveal a whole lot more. trends and patterns to be exact. of course your chart will show an almost equal amount of times a number will hit, that's just the laws of averages. this is something close to what Jimmy did to prove systems don't work. not the same.

Reply #9

LANTERN — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 23:19:23 GMT

Are you using ExpertLotto or your own software, probably RL's software

Reply #8

garyo1954 — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 23:13:17 GMT

Yep. Working on the pairs and triples for 2Step. Since Cash5 is not a rollover game, it's too much trouble to mess with.

Reply #7

LANTERN — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 23:03:12 GMT

TxCash5 pays too little, at least the Tx2Step pays better.

The MegaMillions could go the way of PowerBall, I guess we will see.

Maybe 52, 360 total combinations for the 4 main numbers!

Key Digits or Bankers as they also are called could maybe cut down the number of combinations down some.

Also proper wheeling.

Reply #6

garyo1954 — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:57:42 GMT

Congrats! That's cool. I should get back to playing pick 3 sometime soon.

Right now spending a lot of time on 2Step and Cash5.

Talking to the guy at the store this morning it seems like a few people are putting the money they were spending on powerball on the 2Step game.

Reply #5

LANTERN — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:42:57 GMT

Right!

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/240717/2362634

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/240717/2362642

Now somebody says that one prediction is not enought that it must tbe done many times over and that besides pre draws do matter and that I should post with much more time before the draw.

That anybody can get the winning number one time and the very first time also. (I would like others to try that and see how they do)

Maybe I would if I thought that the drawings are honest,

Reply #4

garyo1954 — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:26:02 GMT

But Lantern I needed something to do wth the sorting program RL sent me!

Truth: I didn't expect to see anything different. I would have been surprised to see anything different than +/-2% anywhere.

It seems to me, the reason we think things occur more often in the pre-test is because there are more pre-test.

Reply #3

LANTERN — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:18:32 GMT

If you only use the data of winning draws you predict for winning draws

If you only use the data of pre-tests you predict for pre-tests

If you use the data of Mondays you predict for Mondays

If you only use the data of midday or day draws you predict or should predict for day or midday draws.

Or you can combine the data and predict for the very next draw which-ever it might be Day or Night, day to night or night to day.

Things are relative and statistics connect or relate otherwis... [ More ]

Reply #2

LANTERN — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:12:36 GMT

Without ever looking at any such stats I already thought that it would be like that.

There is no reason to think that the so called random of pre-draws is not the same as that of regular winning draws.

What is called random should always be the same and mostly in the long run.

Reply #1

garyo1954 — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:03:32 GMT

Okay, so now we know that numbers do not fall more often in pre-test draws vs official draws. What next?

Maybe more EVEN fall? Or ODD?

Maybe more 2Even/3Odd fall?

Could it be more 3Low and 2 Middle numbers hit more often than they should in pretest?

Nope, none of that is happening. The Global percentages in the middle of the chart show the percentages for the overall matrix. That is, if you take the entire matrix and break it down by even/odd combos or high/middle/low combos thos... [ More ]

Pre-tests vs Official Draws in Comparison

garyo1954 — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:47:54 GMT

Thought to call this Missing Data Changed My Life, but that would not be true. Missing data in a Pick 3 game is not likely to change anyone's life unless they are playing $50 a set on 100 straights. If missing data is likely to change your life, it will be in a jackpot game that pays a quarter of a million to $250 million.

How many times do you hear someone say, My numbers always hit in the pre-test?

But do they?

In Texas there are 4 pre-test draws before the Official draw. To test th... [ More ]