The Future of Online Lottery Sales?

Reply #22

Stack47 — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 22:27:46 GMT

Repealing the Justice Departments decision on the Wire Act is probably DOA because state lotteries have begun online ticket sales. It was more of an issue to the Poker Player Alliance because a repeal would make it impossible to have U. S. based online poker sites.The PPA was also disappointed at the Democrat Party platform because it doesn't address online gambling.

We have one party against online gambling and the other doesn't care.

Reply #21

Stack47 — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 03:00:34 GMT

As it stands, anything over $599 must be claimed at the lottery office. Online wins over $599 can be simply be taxed the same way with the remainder credited to the winner in question.

The Kentucky pick-3 pays $600, so I asked a Cashing Agent if winners had to fill out a W-2G and pay taxes and was told no because the cost of the ticket was deducted making the winnings $599. I've never been lucky enough to sign for any online horse racing winners over the max, but the site requires a SS numbe... [ More ]

Reply #20

Stack47 — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 02:22:44 GMT

You probably spoke with the wrong person because all the state lottery officials discussed the potential of online ticket sales. To my knowledge Wisconsin has no laws prohibiting Internet gambling although in their codes, they do site Federal law. There are states with laws (KY is one) that prohibits online gambling but it could be easily repealed if they or any other state with such a law decides to sell lottery tickets online.

In March, the Illinois legislation created and passed a law all... [ More ]

Reply #19

Lucky Loser — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 00:53:43 GMT

While I'm at it, this should especially be applied for the little games such as Pick 3/4. They already have software available that instantly knows how many tickets have won boxed, straight, and the combination of both. The only thing I forsee as being reviewed is how to credit the players for their wins due to possible tax constraints. As it stands, anything over $599 must be claimed at the lottery office. Online wins over $599 can be simply be taxed the same way with the remainder credited to... [ More ]

Reply #18

Lucky Loser — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 00:25:02 GMT

Yep. kinda the same thing but different here. I graduated from standing in line to try and get all my playslips entered...from multiple stores at that. The current method of playing lottery numbers is seriously ANTIQUATED with the advent of current technology. People should be able to comfortably play their numbers from home via an efficient method offered by the state lotteries. Hell, they make enough money to implement it! CONVENIENCE is now, and, forever will be the trend with everything incl... [ More ]

Reply #17

MillionsWanted — Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:54:37 GMT

Yes, but the same goes for people delivering their play slips at lottery agents. Everyone is registered players and get their winnings automatically transfered to their own bank account if it's above a certain sum, else it stays on the account you administer on the lottery website.

It is of course anonymous and the winnings are tax free.

Reply #16

Artist77 — Mon, 03 Sep 2012 16:50:15 GMT

So if someone bought their ticket online and won the jackpot, they would not have to show up in person to claim

Reply #15

MillionsWanted — Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:20:30 GMT

I don't miss standing in line in a store waiting for my turn to deliver the lottery slips.

It's so easy doing it online. No need to fill out your name on a slip and go to the lottery store to check your slip for prizes or to claim your winnings.

You get your winnings automatically.

I got a lottery program to fill out my slips automatically and deliver a file to the lottery company via internet.

Reply #14

Nikkicute — Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:08:34 GMT

I e-mailed my state lotto to ask if we were going online, the answer was NO.

Was told it's against the law, I told them about our neighbors Illinois and

others that are joining, and how online gambling for lotteries is legal but I was told in

the state of Wiscosin it's against the law.

Maybe they will change their minds or I was talking to the wrong person, the way they

answered I don't think they were even aware of the other states going online.

Reply #13

Stack47 — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 17:54:54 GMT

For the most part, party platforms are nothing more than recorded statements for or against something. Speaker of the House, John Boehner was quoted saying he has never read a party platform so probably very few things in either party's platform became law. Because at least two states now have Internet lottery wagering, any reversal of the 2011 Justice Department's decision becomes a state rights issue and would be decided by the Supreme Court.

Many offshore Internet poker sites were shut dow... [ More ]

Reply #12

RJOh — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 17:47:37 GMT

The only thing bad about states selling lottery tickets on line is they are probably going to track all those wins less than $600 that most of us don't bother to file with our tax returns since we usually spent more than we won. Even so if your total loses don't exceed the standard tax deduction for losses, these small winnings could increase your taxable income even though they didn't increase your real income.

Reply #11

JonnyBgood07 — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:34:35 GMT

The justice dept needs to go f*ck themselves.EVERYTHING should be up to the individual states.

A person doesn't need to be a republican or Dem to realize it.

The world would be a happier place if people were actually free to make judgements for themselves and dealing with the ramifications if something goes awry.This is what makes us adults.

Reply #10

chrissy16 — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:23:35 GMT

Aside from the politics surrounding this, I personally hate going to the stores to make my purchases. If the clerks are not getting my numbers wrong, than I am probably being stared down by people who snub their noses at lottery players. Not to mention the winter is upon us and I hate having to go out in the cold if I don't have to. By the way I thought the republican party was the party of less government? Sure doesn't seem that way here.

Reply #9

Mr-Smith — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:17:36 GMT

We have online lottery sales here and I still buy in the store....

The online QP sucks just as much as buying the tickets in your local Shop.....

Also when you go to buy Gas or walk to your local Shop and you see the lottery machine is right there your not going to say.... Naaah.. I ll wait and play a home... You will snatch up a Card like in your normal routine as you do now.....

But there will be some individuals that will turn into more Hard Core players that are to embarassed to go

Reply #8

Todd — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:00:36 GMT

I agree. As Jason Stackhouse said, that train has sailed.

Reply #7

BobP — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:55:22 GMT

When our free country allowed me to play the Australian lotteries online there was never a problem with my bet being recorded, etc. that I was aware of. Though I did miss throwing away the losing tickets in bitter disappointment like I do with Florida tickets.

Demorats and Repuglicans, six of one half a dozen of the other, both parties are total crap bringing half of what I want and half I don't.

If voting ever made a difference it would be illegal.

BobP

Reply #6

Stack47 — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 03:25:56 GMT

The only way selling tickets online could really have an effect on smaller stores is if the lotteries develop online games that compete with scratch-offs. Another factor are the players who want the winning ticket in their hands and don't want to worry about being disconnected or being unsure if their bet was recorded. Playing the same games online is just an option because we still have to go into the stores to buy milk, bread, gas, etc.

From the lottery's point of view, it's just another wa... [ More ]

Reply #5

Artist77 — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 17:17:49 GMT

I would miss the thrill of filling out betting slips and not buying anything else at 7-11.

Reply #4

Stack47 — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 01:24:17 GMT

Millions of Americans suffer from problem or pathological gambling

Even if I were to believe that is true, I can't see how that applies to opening an online account using a bank card and depositing money to play the same lottery games we can legally play by buying tickets at a store. Even the occasional lottery players could save money by not driving to a store. It looks like the platform committee had way too much time on their hands or believes the majority of lottery players are pathologi... [ More ]

Reply #3

Lucky Loser — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:55:54 GMT

Well Stack, this is how I feel about it. What you decide to do with your money in the privacy of your own home or office shouldYOUR OWN D*MN BUSINESS!!! We have waaaaaaaay too much government as it presently stands anyway...let alone regulating what, or, how we spend our money. If a person decides to spend their monies online to play the lottery, and they have better chances of winning by playing with software, then more power to them!!

In the end, anything up to $599 isn't taxable anyway, j... [ More ]

Reply #2

Stack47 — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:32:22 GMT

Now that at least two state lotteries have online ticket sales, repealing the Justice Departments decision could become a states rights issue and go all the way to the Supreme Court.

I agree about the platform; it satisfies the Georgia Family Council and a similar group opposing the Arkansas Lottery. It probably satisfies the North Dallas chapter of the NAACP too though I doubt they were part of the platform selection process.

Reply #1

rdgrnr — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:54:34 GMT

Nothing is stronger than an idea whose time has come.

- Victor Hugo

Party Platforms won't stop it, it's just a matter of time now.

The Future of Online Lottery Sales?

Stack47 — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:26:49 GMT

Last December the U.S. Justice Department gave a legal opinion that interstate transmissions of wire communications that do not relate to a sporting event of contest fall outside the reach of the Wire Act. and that opened the door for state lotteries to begin selling tickets online to state residents. Illinois and Georgia are currently offering online sales.

The Poker Player Alliance believes that ruling could also open the door for legal online poker playing. The PPA has generally been non-p... [ More ]