Wheeling software

Reply #30

lottoarchitect — Fri, 10 May 2013 21:34:41 GMT

From what I've read the Wheel Generator does have the capability of applying an abbreviated wheel to the remaining combinations after filters are applied.

It does, the mother covering feature allows this. This technique is best applied if you start from a full wheel i.e. with 30 numbers, apply any sort of filtering we want and then import it as mother in the program. Then WG will use as many blocks as needed from this mother to ensure the requested guarantee. That means, if the next draw to c... [ More ]

Reply #29

Stack47 — Fri, 10 May 2013 19:03:54 GMT

By using less than all the possible numbers, using all the correct filters is useless for winning the jackpot when one of the drawn numbers is missing. Abbreviated wheels like 4if4, 3if4, 3if3, etc. can still produce a small profit at a smaller cost of play by missing one or more of the drawn numbers. We can lose the wheel guarantee by applying the correct filters or find out the one combination matching all the drawn numbers was already elliminated by the wheel when we match all the numbers.

Reply #28

RJOh — Fri, 10 May 2013 16:09:07 GMT

Even if CM isn't use to generate wheels, it can be used as a tool to check if wheels measure up to their claims.

By serious players I meant those who would go to the lottery website to read all the free information about their game that is available. I'm always surprised to read posts with request that asks questions that could be easily answered this way.

Reply #27

RJOh — Fri, 10 May 2013 15:55:40 GMT

A wheel generator isn't needed if you want every possible combination in a group of numbers, a simple programs that continues to loop until every number is covered will do that. A special wheeling program is needed when you want certain guarantees and conditions meet in an abbreviated wheel.

Reply #26

lottolaughs — Fri, 10 May 2013 14:37:03 GMT

Best wheels in my opinion are in the Gail Howard's full wheel generator. Yes,they are full wheels but...wow...excellent software.

Reply #25

lottoarchitect — Thu, 09 May 2013 21:28:09 GMT

Serious lottery players wouldn't use Covermaster as a primary tool, or wheels available free at the internet I believe. They are ok for what they do but they are rather limited in many ways. Don't get me wrong, a serious lottery player would look for much more control over the tickets he generates for play via a wheel and the free Covermaster and available wheels simply can't provide this. Also a free program will be always more popular than a commercial one.

I can't know if the existing WG u... [ More ]

Reply #24

RJOh — Thu, 09 May 2013 19:42:19 GMT

Is your Wheel Generator as well known as CoverMaster among serious lottery players

Reply #23

SergeM — Thu, 09 May 2013 19:21:46 GMT

LOL, I don't need a test, I play for real. Last four drawings, I won three times for lotto.

No, I would not put my selection in a thread on Lotterypost. Many winners, small payouts and few winners, big payouts

Reply #22

SergeM — Thu, 09 May 2013 19:15:50 GMT

Bluskov published different books, one of them is a booklet. That one I bought, and yes it is in paper. I think that the biggest wheel in it is with 15 numbers.

As far as I know he doesn't discuss number selection, but I think to have read or heard that he has his own ideas. Maybe he got approached by some publisher to sell a mini version of his bigger books and I think that it is okay as most people don't want to play too big wheels and the bigger the wheel is, the smaller the payout guarant... [ More ]

Reply #21

BobP — Thu, 09 May 2013 17:17:17 GMT

I hope you realize your responses are being graded and there will be a test at the end of the thread.

Ok, I'm confused again. Far as I know Bluskov has two full size paper back books one for Pick-5 wheeling and one for Pick-6 wheeling. He doesn't discuss number selection.

When you say small version, do you mean the amazon view some pages or what?

Now GH has a small simplistic version of her book she gave away and scammers sell on ebay for $9.99 could that be the book you didn't... [ More ]

Reply #20

helpmewin — Thu, 09 May 2013 13:17:36 GMT

Reply #19

SergeM — Thu, 09 May 2013 11:49:12 GMT

I have a small version, I didn't learn anything with it.

Reply #18

Stack47 — Thu, 09 May 2013 05:21:51 GMT

Thanks

Reply #17

helpmewin — Thu, 09 May 2013 04:13:23 GMT

have you read the book

Reply #16

lottoarchitect — Wed, 08 May 2013 20:02:26 GMT

It is a windows application, no online i.e. running in a web browser. The idea of wheeling is to make affordable for play an approach that uses more numbers. Free wheels are static constructions, which is ok for normal use but do produce undesirable individual tickets thus reducing exposure to a better layout of a winning ticket as we define it with filters. However we can take this to the next level and get the most out of wheels and this is what WG is about in first place.

Reply #15

SergeM — Wed, 08 May 2013 19:49:26 GMT

Is your program an online application?

I had a look at it before, but I am in the no budget class.

I also do some programming on my own, with own ideas.

Reply #14

lottoarchitect — Wed, 08 May 2013 19:39:54 GMT

For your last sentence, my WG can do that via the mother covering feature. As far as I know, no other wheeler in the world has this feature available.

Reply #13

lottoarchitect — Wed, 08 May 2013 19:34:13 GMT

I wonder why my Wheel Generator is not mentioned here. It has many world records attributed to it, can construct almost any known wheeling requirement including dual coverage, 0% L = 99.0, matrix, jackpot matrix, t if m matrix (unique feature), wheeling around filters from scratch such as positional/sums/odds and mother (another unique feature) - not filtering afterwards which is the worse approach possible, all in one package. Also the ability to deal with very large coverings (k up to 12) and

Reply #12

SergeM — Wed, 08 May 2013 14:17:27 GMT

Bluskov probably isn't the only person having such a program. Bluskov was a player in France, and probably still is playing in Canada now, so I am curious about his approach when selecting numbers.

Reply #11

BobP — Wed, 08 May 2013 11:30:28 GMT

CoverMaster needs to be massaged to make tighter wheels.

The process begins with knowing the established size (bounds) of the wheel you want to make or exceed and take note of whether the wheel is split into two independent parts or allmost all numbers share a line together.

CoverMaster only makes split wheels by making the two independent parts. You may see a (24,6,3,6)=20 wheel in a book and be disappointed CoverMaster makes that wheel in 24 lines without realizing is making a non

Reply #10

Stack47 — Wed, 08 May 2013 02:00:23 GMT

I guess the world record would be one ticket!

It's possible to get one unique line using just one filter. In both PB and MM or any pick-5 game, use the Sum 15.

Depending on how many numbers are used, some 2 if 2 wheels have the same effect as a 3 if 5 with less lines. I've used wheeling software where filters can be applied after the wheel is constructed, but filtering an abbreviated wheel can filter out the wheel guarantee. The ideal program for me would allow me apply any filter to a fu... [ More ]

Reply #9

LottoBoner — Tue, 07 May 2013 21:31:36 GMT

Well Darth Vader has several full wheels with filters.

A 5 if 5 of 10 in only 252 games.

I only checked it out recently.

It has some sum filters and some others, but I have to look into it.

I guess the world record would be one ticket

Reply #8

SergeM — Tue, 07 May 2013 21:25:50 GMT

Fewest tickets was what I meant by world record wheel. CoverMaster does what it promises but generates more lines than the absolute minimum.

When I use CoverMaster, I paste the wheel in Excel and use it as structure to distribute my selected numbers.

I programmed several special versions of wheels with not far fetched algorithms. Those wheels have more lines, but do what is promised.

Reply #7

LottoBoner — Tue, 07 May 2013 21:24:51 GMT

I have Wheel 5 gold! It was a gift.

I have one super duper wheel.

It is a 4 if 5 wheel in one game.

5 numbers, guareenteed to hit 4 of 5

if your selected 5 numbers match at least 4 numbers.

Reply #6

SergeM — Tue, 07 May 2013 20:56:36 GMT

I have CoverMaster but use one of my hand written wheels that I put in Excel.

Reply #5

SergeM — Tue, 07 May 2013 20:50:12 GMT

How about 6 if 3

Reply #4

BobP — Tue, 07 May 2013 20:49:03 GMT

World record for what? Fewest tickets, most prizes, most lower prize tiers covered 100%, there are choices.

One size does not fit all. To get one desire one usually has to give up another.

Best wheel maker is free, CoverMaster you likely have it.

Best key wheel maker, CoverMaster just make a wheel for a smaller game for example for a pick-6 key wheel make a Pick-5 wheel one number smaller like for a 18 number wheel make a Pick-5 for 17 numbers wheel and then raise the line size... [ More ]

Reply #3

helpmewin — Tue, 07 May 2013 20:16:59 GMT

how about for 10/80

Reply #2

jeankedemetser — Tue, 07 May 2013 19:13:39 GMT

Reply #1

LottoBoner — Tue, 07 May 2013 18:43:15 GMT

Dont you know wheeling is so 1920's

Wheeling software

SergeM — Tue, 07 May 2013 16:59:27 GMT

There are different kind of wheels, in order to name a few, we have key wheels, positional wheels, and x if z wheels. There are full wheels with filters too.

What software can we buy and which are the specialities and strong points by software?

Considering conditions like x if y, which software produces most of world record wheels, with a small number of combinations?

The thread is about world record wheels and wheels with special qualities like positional for lottery games that are not... [ More ]