Universal filters programs for cash 5 kinds of games?

Reply #45

garyo1954 — Tue, 04 Jun 2013 04:56:08 GMT

I agree with you on several points.

There is a lot of faulty software out there.

And people do not take the time to understand what the software will do and what it won't.

The third most common reason, people can't win is lack of available data. Two years ago when we broke the Texas Cash5 into little pieces of info, we found a bunch of 0,1, and 2s.

You can analyze 0,1,2 all day long, but not with any definity.

Software itself won't win. Still it is a great tool to target the combo... [ More ]

Reply #44

MonEl — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:22:26 GMT

So far jackpot games are so hard to win, that people who win them (the jackpot) win only by chance.

There are 2 problems, there is no proper commercial software and people don't know how to win.

People first need to know how to win and then they need software with which they can win, that is, the proper tools for their particular prediction technique.

Those who don't know how to win, can't win, no matter which or what software they use as there is no software that can predict the winnin... [ More ]

Reply #43

jimjwright — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:04:34 GMT

Its a work in progress, but I will be setting up a web site and making a Beta version available next month for testing for anyone interested. The thought is to eventually sell it for a few dollars but lottery software is such a niche market it might not be worth the trouble.

Jimmy

Reply #42

garyo1954 — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 16:26:08 GMT

That is some excellent work jim. You put some remarkable foresight in your setup. That is something I've been mulling.

Although I have nothing against preset filters, I think the ability to set your own parameters and type of filter is important. Certainly not an easy job when all flters are not equal, and I agree with your choice of sum as a base filter. Most people will never take the time to understand how the filter works and how it affects the overall performance of any program.

I al... [ More ]

Reply #41

dr san — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 14:14:15 GMT

Hello, Jim, this below in ascending order is in the correct order of draw

WED 03/13/13 13 19 22 24 37

FRI 03/08/13

THU 03/07/13 05 20 21 23 39

WED 03/06/13 03 12 30 32 33

TUE 03/05/13 16 17 26 27 35

MON 03/04/13 04 06 21 27 28

SUN 03/03/13 16 26 33 34 37

SAT 03/02/13 15 21 27 36 39

FRI 03/01/13 03 04 08 10 21

Reply #40

dr san — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 13:43:13 GMT

Hello,jimjwrigt a doubt you are doing the analysis of positional digits in raffles registered in ascending order? If you could create a chart patterns as follows =

You're doing a good job filter horizontally (for line drawing) could join each column, if the lottery is 5 numbers eg 39/5, climb the list of the last 5 numbers in each position, but the draws have be in the sweepstakes where the number 39 can

Be in the first position, then take this line for your study and do and each of the 5... [ More ]

Reply #39

jimjwright — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 10:19:29 GMT

The other thing is dealing with true 50% coin flips decisions. Look for the value to flip after 3-4 consecutive drawings with the same value. The Odd Even filters are true coin flips. The LH are not coin flips. If I made the low high decision based on the last digit then it would be a coin flip. in Section B look at Column OE-3. Position 3 is almost predictable after this condition occurs. The same can be applied to the Median value which is a coin flip. If you have 3 conscutive draws below the

Reply #38

jimjwright — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 09:58:08 GMT

I implemented a few of the feature requests you requested and added them into a Pick 5 lottery software that I am developing.

Screenshot

The program is broken up into 4 sections.

Section A is where you select the lottery game. When you select a lottery the lower half of the screen section D is loaded with the draw history and calculates all the filter values for the draws. I implemented a new filter page called C Filters that does some of the things you requested.

Using Section D as

Reply #37

garyo1954 — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 03:05:41 GMT

Yes. The best thing I learned from RL is if you are going to play a digit system, the Left Front digits should remain static. They are much easier to track and simpler to plug in. No reason to change something that works.

Reply #36

dr san — Sun, 02 Jun 2013 21:53:06 GMT

Hello. garyo, ok, the initial digits of a number we could use as fixed, filter only the endings 0-9, so we have a reference based on setting the initial digit. Garyo continue the good work

Reply #35

garyo1954 — Sun, 02 Jun 2013 13:04:25 GMT

dr san, I apologize. Without having access to the entire chart it is hard to imagine what it entails. All the filters we are discussing are based on the back digit.

The exception is the L/M/H filter, which for the moment, is based on the number. My intent is to change that, or add another column for that back digit L/H. This program is a modification of the Cash5 work we did a couple of years ago. It has its problems. And I have mine deciphering what the code does. In some cases variable dep... [ More ]

Reply #34

dr san — Sun, 02 Jun 2013 01:32:45 GMT

Hello, garyo 1954 is only a question you can study within the filter

Separating a lottery for 46/6 or any other, separate the initial digit digit end

That is split into two parts and apply the standard filters the filters standards 0-4 of the initial digits must have another last digit is almost equal

Example result = 01,23,25,36,42,48

Initial digit = 0,2,2,3,4,4

Final digit = 1,3,5,6,2,8

apply the standard study in two parts

Ie do what doing but in two parts then joins to f... [ More ]

Reply #33

garyo1954 — Sat, 01 Jun 2013 04:03:55 GMT

Still more to do but I did get the overall totals for the In/Out and B/N filters.

Not sure how to use them at this point but these are the overall totals for the 2Step matrix.

Reply #32

garyo1954 — Fri, 31 May 2013 13:23:25 GMT

Thank you. Gipong to try to get some other stuff up this afternoon. We'll see where it goes.

Reply #31

MonEl — Fri, 31 May 2013 00:31:23 GMT

garyo

It is a very nice chart

Reply #30

garyo1954 — Thu, 30 May 2013 04:51:08 GMT

JKING, there are ways you could use these ideas in a tracking chart such as this:

Don't get excited yet. I wrote the code but haven't had time to run the entire matrix to get some idea of how often each of these patterns should appear. Although we could probably get away with tracking the patterns in the game to determine which should hit first, I'd prefer a baseline of the entire matrix. Just for my sanity and the idea that a baseline will give us some idea what we should be looking... [ More ]

Reply #29

MonEl — Wed, 29 May 2013 16:12:48 GMT

jking

As I said, it all depends on what you are trying to do with it.

Good Luck

Reply #28

JKING — Wed, 29 May 2013 05:23:26 GMT

Tue, May 28, 2013 04-15-18-21-27 EOEOO - 2 MATCHES FROM 5/27

Mon, May 27, 2013 11-20-25-31-35 OEOOO - 2 MATCHES FROM 5/26

Sat, May 25, 2013 02-04-06-07-26 EEEOE - 2 MATCHES FROM 5/25

Fri, May 24, 2013 01-05-28-29-31 OOEOO - 2 MATCHES FROM 5/24

Thu, May 23, 2013 04-05-07-14-17 EOOEO

Reply #27

MonEl — Wed, 29 May 2013 04:35:22 GMT

Tue, May 28, 2013 04-15-18-21-27

Mon, May 27, 2013 11-20-25-31-35

Sat, May 25, 2013 02-04-06-07-26

Fri, May 24, 2013 01-05-28-29-31

Thu, May 23, 2013 04-05-07-14-17

I don't understand your question!

Tue, May 28, 2013 04-15-18-21-27 EOEOO

Mon, May 27, 2013 11-20-25-31-35 OEOOO

Sat, May 25, 2013 02-04-06-07-26 EEEOE

Fri, May 24, 2013 01-05-28-29-31 OOEOO

Thu, May 23, 2013 04-05-07-14-17 EOOEO

This is a filter same as any other such, for this kind of game it has 32... [ More ]

Reply #26

JKING — Wed, 29 May 2013 03:48:47 GMT

And what happens when you try to match O's and E's by postion with the previous game

Reply #25

MonEl — Tue, 28 May 2013 16:30:12 GMT

On a 5/37 game the OOOOO filter pattern has or holds 11,628 lines-combinations

And the EEEEE has 8,568

The OEOEO has 20,349 combinations on it.

So as seen, the patterns don't seem to filter out the very same numbers of lines each, this is due to the make-up of the game and the make up of the filters.

For a cash 5 game there are 32 patterns for each of these filters.

Reply #24

garyo1954 — Tue, 28 May 2013 02:03:05 GMT

This is true RL. I am sure there are several reasons that happens.

Going all in on one digit, pair, trip, or set is one reason.

Running tight filters is another reason.

Setting the the wrong filter first is a big reason in my case. The first filter, call it the base filter, should be one that produces the largest amount of possible outcomes.

The more I research filters the more I realize I don't know squat about filtering techniques. I'm always learning and most of the time it is the... [ More ]

Reply #23

RJOh — Mon, 27 May 2013 23:19:49 GMT

To filter out a winner from a batch of combinations, there has to be winners in the batch. I have checked batches of combinations of 5000 and more that never had a combination that matched more than three of the winning numbers and yet I doubt if most lottery programs generate more combinations expecting to pick a winner.

Reply #22

garyo1954 — Mon, 27 May 2013 23:05:32 GMT

Filtering works with either based on the combinations in play and not how the draws are accomplished.

That said, some filters, or filte settings may work better for a particular game depending on whether you play a high ball lottery or low ball lottery. You have to determine for yourself if your game is producing more high ball combinations low ball combinations.

This is a good reason to run the filter through the entire matrix and again against the draws comparing the result to determine

Reply #21

rowlettewheel — Mon, 27 May 2013 20:26:55 GMT

is this based on a regular pingpong balls or computor drawings

Reply #20

LottoBoner — Mon, 27 May 2013 03:18:59 GMT

Reply #19

dr san — Mon, 27 May 2013 03:12:12 GMT

hello, Monei, the problem of the sums in general, and not have a reference point of beginning or end

The sum may have the desired beginning with 01 or 27, thus walking in circles

Besides the conflicts with other filters if you know the number or trailing ai works, if not circling,

Reply #18

MonEl — Sun, 26 May 2013 23:24:05 GMT

There are states where they still pay more or less good enough money on the cash 5, but of course, not on Tx.

Neither the lower nor the higher prizes are good.

Remember the Tx Millions game

Reply #17

MonEl — Sun, 26 May 2013 23:20:06 GMT

dr san

Sorry, but I already have more than enough with my own ideas.

Good Luck.

I need software based on my very own ideas, not more ideas.

Reply #16

MonEl — Sun, 26 May 2013 23:17:05 GMT

RJOh

What they call random is the very same for all the cash 5 games or it should be, I know that for the pick 3 games that so called random is the same for all the pick 3 games here on the U.S.A.

So if you can win the games on one state you should be able to do the same for all the other states, I think that thru the years I might have been able to prove that, at least to myself.

If the games and draws are conducted in a honest way, then the history of the past winning numbers don't li... [ More ]

Reply #15

MonEl — Sun, 26 May 2013 23:04:17 GMT

garyo

Very good.

First of all you need a good enough prediction technique.

You also need to use very many more filters.

People don't listen to me, so of course they fail.

You also need a part of the program that does the filtration itself as these are just some stats.

As I have said so very many times before, not having the right filtration technique and also overfiltering will filter out the winning number.

Good Luck

Reply #14

dr san — Sun, 26 May 2013 21:33:48 GMT

Hello, Monei good job of sums, but you can also do so eg =

Let's take your example of 99/6, you can create sums of pairs start and end pairs

The number of the center does not enter the study, eg initial pair going 01-45 and final pair 46-99, the sum and do now, because then you have references or base, because when you add up the numbers 5, we have no basis or refente now with peers initial and final pair have references, then we will deal with two sums, eg if the initial pair gave 120 and... [ More ]

Reply #13

garyo1954 — Sun, 26 May 2013 17:33:30 GMT

Cash5 in Texas is a dying game. The legislatures killed it when they changed the matrix and lowered the payout in accordance with sales. That it no longer rolls over is another drawback. That the first prize money is distribute among those who pick 4 of 5 is not a big selling point. Where 4 of 5 would pay $90 to $130 if the jackpot is won, 4 of 5 pays $450 to $500. Not musch different than putting a buck on Pick 3.

The payouts went from $250,000 to $25,000. This year the highest payouts run

Reply #12

RJOh — Sun, 26 May 2013 17:04:12 GMT

I'm trying to find some commonality with all pick5 games. The following is for Ohio's Rolling Cash5:

PRINT/COUNT SUMS OF 26 - 180 / 3

SHIFT VALUE 26 SUM

SAT 05/25/13 - 04 09 15 23 25 + 76

FRI 05/24/13 - 14 15 17 20 36 + 102

THR 05/23/13 - 08 13 18 24 28 + 91

WED 05/22/13 - 04 14 16 19 27 + 80

TUE 05/21/13 - 05 17 27 29 33 + 111

MON 05/20/13 - 05 08 12 18 37 + 80

SUN 05/19/13 - 12 14 26 28 37 + 117

SAT 05/18/13 - 09 10 12 27 33 + 91

FRI 05/17/13 - 01 03 13 30 37... [ More ]

Reply #11

garyo1954 — Sun, 26 May 2013 17:03:52 GMT

Here's a screen shot of the filters you wrote about. I do treat the bonus ball as non-existent when dealing with games that have them. Anytime the ball is drawn from a separate pool, it is the same as having a second drawing independent of the first.

The labels should be understandable. But just in case, EOTTL = Even/Odd Total, LF = Left front digit, PAT = Lo/Mid/High pattern and EOPOS is Even/Odd Positioning.

Here's a shorter form to show which is more active throughout the history of... [ More ]

Reply #10

MonEl — Sun, 26 May 2013 14:59:38 GMT

Straight

Can you do such as this:

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/240717/2365443

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/240717/2365522

Reply #9

MonEl — Sun, 26 May 2013 14:54:15 GMT

You don't seem to be doing too well by yourself!

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/261209/3077211

Reply #8

Straight — Sun, 26 May 2013 14:47:31 GMT

Boring boring boring

Reply #7

MonEl — Sun, 26 May 2013 14:38:36 GMT

I don't know for sure, but I believe that the filters that I wrote about on both of those threads are superior to those filters that you see on filters software that is already out there.

But there are also a few other good filters, besides these.

Lately people have been winning the Tx2Step without quick picks.

The only thing about the Tx2Step is that the numbers of the bonus ball are not part of the main numbers and would need to try ways in which they can be reduced.

Reply #6

MonEl — Sun, 26 May 2013 14:02:58 GMT

garyo1954

Thanks a lot!

I don't have software that uses the filters that I talk about, so I don't know for sure what might work best.

I posted in the hope that somebody one day might include those filters into software, either software that is already out-there or into new software.

Can you yourself make software? Or How will you use these ideas for the Tx2Step?

Does Expert Lotto or some other software lets you build filters for it such as the ones that I am talking about or does... [ More ]

Reply #5

garyo1954 — Sun, 26 May 2013 12:22:56 GMT

Exellent thread. The link is a very good look at filtering. I'm likely to apply it to the 2step here in Texas.

Any suggestions on how well they work or which is the most efficient?

G

Reply #4

MonEl — Sat, 25 May 2013 20:27:23 GMT

Post # 5

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It is true that the ping pong balls have no memory and that in the regular way one ping pong ball does not have anything to do with any other ping pong ball.

Balls and numbers are only related to each other thru statistics and maybe in no other way.

Perhaps better prediction is done thru the magic of statistics and not because any ball or number has anything to do with any other ball or number except thru statistics.

First you make the patterns and th... [ More ]

Reply #3

MonEl — Sat, 25 May 2013 19:56:25 GMT

Post # 4

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2 X 2 X 2 X 2 X 2 = 32 Patterns for the First Digits and also 32 Patterns for the Last Digits.

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For those who are not ver familiar with these things, what that means is that more or less each of the 32 patterns is or has 1/32 of all the possible combinations of the game and as there are 4 kinds of such patterns:

Even-Odd

Low-High

In-Out

Bala-Nced

A lot of reduction is possible either by Filtering The Patterns either

Reply #2

MonEl — Sat, 25 May 2013 19:25:54 GMT

Post # 3

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Missouri (MO) Show Me Cash Lottery Results

Fri, May 24, 2013 17-19-22-30-32 120 Sum

Thu, May 23, 2013 04-06-07-23-39 79 Sum

Wed, May 22, 2013 03-12-28-32-39 114 Sum

Tue, May 21, 2013 17-20-21-27-38 123 Sum

Mon, May 20, 2013 09-11-19-25-28 92 Sum

Sun, May 19, 2013 04-12-13-25-26 80 Sum

Sat, May 18, 2013 02-12-14-15-28 71 Sum

Fri, May 17, 2013 02-11-21-22-28 84 Sum

Thu, May 16, 2013 06-19-20-24-30 99 Sum

Wed, May 15, 2013 09-20-23-34... [ More ]

Reply #1

MonEl — Sat, 25 May 2013 18:27:11 GMT

Post # 2

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For a sort of Universal Filters cash 5 program.

First Digit or Decade Sums:

The Lowest Possible:

01 02 03 04 05 = 0 FD Sum

95 96 97 98 99 = 45 FD Sum

Lowest FD Sum 0

Highest FD Sum 45

Maybe 45 possible FD Sums?

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Last Digits (LD) Sums

Lowest

10 30 40 50 90 = 0 LD Sum

Highest

09 29 39 49 89 = 45 LD Sum

Lowest LD Sum 0

Highest LD Sum 45

Maybe 45 possible LD Sums

Universal filters programs for cash 5 kinds of games?

MonEl — Sat, 25 May 2013 17:50:33 GMT

Post # 1.

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As always, beware, I might make mistakes.

And I might not notice them, let me know if you see any mistakes.

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And in part that might also apply to games with 5 main balls, but only for the main balls portion.

It seems to me that in the U.S.A most or all cash 5 games and games with 5 main balls won't soon have more than 99 bals.

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Sums filter:

Lowest possible number under those conditions:

01 02 03 04 05 = 1... [ More ]