using coldest digits to get winning p4 triads?

Reply #71

winsumloosesum — Fri, 25 Oct 2013 01:30:51 GMT

Not for some time. I've traded emails with MikeK a few times.

Have you heard from Bill M? Heard he was not doing well.

Reply #70

Uluska — Fri, 25 Oct 2013 01:20:24 GMT

Out of 4 numbers you get 24 possible combinations, if this hits on 6th game, you'l spend 24X 6 = $144. Unless you have budget set up, you might get frastrated after one or couple of games and not spend anymore.

Reply #69

cash4ninja — Fri, 25 Oct 2013 01:19:39 GMT

Wsls. U been around for awhile. Saw u in post I was reading last nite.

U ever chat with mike k, webmaster leroy or paymenow ron. ???

From the old crew u last one left.

Reply #68

winsumloosesum — Fri, 25 Oct 2013 01:13:56 GMT

Here are the updated Excel 1997 2003 versions:

Pick 4:

https://app.box.com/s/wqwjco8ai7p71fptp7ni

Pick 3:

https://app.box.com/s/dv0rls1a6e09xek65qas

Reply #67

winsumloosesum — Fri, 25 Oct 2013 01:04:06 GMT

Here are the updated Excel 2007 2010 Versions:

Pick 4

https://app.box.com/s/n06b6x1v7v3phcji4u3m

Pick 3

https://app.box.com/s/1hb526cepkhq82k6nbi7

Pick 3 Data Draw Files:

https://app.box.com/s/kfkzauoqxfrd38rmqc2z

Pick 4 Data Draw Files:

https://app.box.com/s/i5v566sn3erl67bfizfu

Read previous posts and watch videos on how to use the files.

Reply #66

winsumloosesum — Sat, 19 Oct 2013 22:54:16 GMT

I made an update to both the Pick 3 and Pick 4 Excel files. P3ImportDraws and P4ImportDraws.

Open either of the Excel files and click the Results tab located at the bottom of the worksheet.

Go to cell H2. Click inside cell H2 and you should see a drop-down arror to the right. You can use this to skip draw(s). For example, if you select 2, the calculations will not include you most current drawing(s) from the Tab labeled DrawHistory1 . Suppose you wanted to skip the 1st 7 draws, you would e... [ More ]

Reply #65

winsumloosesum — Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:48:56 GMT

Here are the download links to the zip files containing the Pick 3 and Pick 4 drawing text files:

Pick 3:

https://app.box.com/s/xuv0n3g6ou1vv1p5rih3

Pick 4:

https://app.box.com/s/0b07u2zdj9usr3ovx3xf

Please read the previous posts and watch the videos on how to set-up your folders and use the Excel files.

Reply #64

winsumloosesum — Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:35:10 GMT

Yesterday I updated the Pick 4 text files and forgot to change a cell value so all the Pick 4 text files were from the Pennsylvania combined Pick 4 drawings. ouch I was using a custom setting and forgot to change it back. I'm going to update the text files within the hour. Draws will be updated through Friday Oct 18th.

Side note for using the P4 P3 ImportDraws Excel files:

If you click the tab labeled DrawHistory1 go to cell M9 and change the value to a 1. I think it is currently s... [ More ]

Reply #63

winsumloosesum — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:07:24 GMT

Here is the download link to the folder that contains the zip files for Midday, Evening, and Combined Pick 3: Updated through Oct 17:

https://app.box.com/s/1mzts7aj9cpnfm1yn66j

Here is the download link to the folder that contains the zip files for Midday, Evening, and Combined Pick 4: Updated through Oct 17:

https://app.box.com/s/jm6hlk4v7ywzt0qkq0hf

Read the previous post on how to use the files.

Reply #62

LottoBux — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:34:01 GMT

Thanks Again Steve

Reply #61

winsumloosesum — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:31:38 GMT

Here you go: All 3 zip files in 1 folder

https://app.box.com/s/1sontmj6tufvlk1emaqe

Reply #60

LottoBux — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:14:16 GMT

For The Pick 3 System

The Link For The Combined Draws Is The Same As The Link For The Midday Draws.

Need A Link For Combined Draws.

Thanks Steve

BTW,The Pick 4 System Is Working Great

Reply #59

MzDuffleBaglady — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:46:42 GMT

What's going on @ ineedahit?

I've been playing, 1982 in Missouri for months now, it's the most hitting pick 4 in Missouri.

I hope we follow up the Crack of Ohio today and drop it, just like they did the pick 3 yesterday, lmaooooooooooooo.

Good Luck thanks for sharing your workouts

Reply #58

ineedahit — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:34:39 GMT

COLDEST DIGITS FOR DAY DRAW 1,9,0,2

TRIADS

190X 198X 908X 801X

MIDDAY WINNER 9281

Reply #57

winsumloosesum — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 00:31:10 GMT

Here is the Pick 3 Version:

1. Create a new folder on your hard drive and name it exactly Pick3System (without the quotes)

2. Once you created the Pick3System folder double click the folder and create 3 additional folders: (Must be named exactly as below)

a) MiddayDraws

b) EveningDraws

c) CombinedDraws

3. Download the following 3 zip files: These contain the Pick 3 drawing text files. Midday, Evening, and Combined

Midday Drawings

https://app.box.com/s/cv8mhv5860am3dd... [ More ]

Reply #56

winsumloosesum — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:10:03 GMT

Here is video #3:

How to update your state's draw history. 2 Methods

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G9u-4nB7ZI

Reply #55

Feisty1 — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 21:44:10 GMT

It's working beautifully! Thank you again for these out-of-sight Excel files! Oh oh, am I showing my age

Reply #54

Feisty1 — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 21:29:37 GMT

Thank you! Will replace the files now.

Reply #53

winsumloosesum — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 21:18:19 GMT

I updated the Excel files at 5PM (EST) today:

1. ImportDraws.xls (Excel versions 1997 through 2003)

https://app.box.com/s/hb8kbv9wcl3zfru8crd0

2. ImportDraws.xlsm (Excel versions 2007 2010)

https://app.box.com/s/6ycupzzbmaaeqq4d8mju

I found an error when importing the Oregon Pick 4 draws.

Try using the new updated version to see if they work.

Here are the Midday, Evening, and Combined Pick 4 draw history text files in zip 3 files: Draws updated through October... [ More ]

Reply #52

Feisty1 — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:07:24 GMT

Hi Steve,

I'm getting a #Value error in columns E R even though the correct draw info is showing in column C. I have the txt files in their respective folders just like your instructions say to do, and the correct drive in the pull down box in column AB. What did I miss

Reply #51

winsumloosesum — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 01:50:25 GMT

I found a couple formula errors in the ImportDraws Excel file.

If you downloaded any of the Excel files you will need to delete the older version and re-download using the same download links from the previous post.

Reply #50

winsumloosesum — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 01:06:08 GMT

Just noticed I added to many i's in EveniingDraws. Folder created should be named EveningDraws

Sorry for the mistake.

I will create a video on how to update the drawing history text file(s) tomorrow. You have 2 ways actually. I'll explain tomorrow

Reply #49

LottoBux — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:13:02 GMT

Thanks So Much Steve.

Really Appreciate All The Time Consuming Work You Put In To Helping Others

The Videos Are Easy To Follow Along With.

Reply #48

winsumloosesum — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 19:23:38 GMT

Video 1 - Creating new folders and subfolders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0HyHLGimSY

If you need to know how to create the new folders just Google it for your particular operating system. Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7, 8 etc.

Video 2 - How to Use the ImportDraws Excel file:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz4rQzHv_1c

Reply #47

winsumloosesum — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:08:22 GMT

I created a Pick 4 Excel program where you can import any Pick 4 drawing text file history into Excel.

1. You will need to create a new folder on your hard drive.

2. Name the new folder Pick4System (without the quotes)

3. Open the new folder Pick4System and create 3 subfolders

MiddayDraws

EveniingDraws

CombinedDraws

4. Download the following 3 zip files into each of the 3 sub folders create above :

a) Download this zip file below and extract the combined draw history

Reply #46

ineedahit — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 04:35:48 GMT

for day draw coldest digits

1,2,3,8

triads

123x 128x 238x 381x

Ohio EVE 3215 ..... so today the triad for for night draw hits day , and now tonight a triad for day hits ... LOL... lets see if they hit the proper drawings

Reply #45

ineedahit — Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:29:09 GMT

(these tests are ohio only)

night draw coldest digits

5,0,6,8

triads

506x 568x 508x 865x

Ohio - mid - 2065 , but its day draw instead of night, curious to see if it may still hit night draw now ..

Reply #44

ineedahit — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 23:33:55 GMT

took a few days , but this set hit tonight... 0708 OHio

Reply #43

MzDuffleBaglady — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 05:04:44 GMT

Wow, that was my quick pick for Missouri tonight. wow, wow.

And our evening pick 3 was, 637.

I'll start posting my quick picks @ ineedahit.

Great work, nice thread, Good Luck.

Reply #42

ineedahit — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 04:59:41 GMT

awesome, glad it got your wheels turning...hope you got the 360

Reply #41

Damgabi39 — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 03:24:07 GMT

Hello ineedahit !!!

Just want to let you know that for fun, I tried your system on my ONTARIO (Canada) Pick 3.... I looked at the stats for the 20 (evening) lastdraw... The numbers 386 were the coldest... I then came out with the following pairs:

38 (380 to 389)

36 (360 to 269)

86 (860 to 869)

and tonight winning number is (630) .... WOW !!! :D

Just want to share this with you...

P.S Did not work for the Pick 4 ... we had doubles tonight... But will let you know

Reply #40

ineedahit — Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:27:54 GMT

coldest digits for day and night

1,9,0,8

triads

190x 198x 908x 801x

for day draw coldest digits

1,2,3,8

triads

123x 128x 238x 381x

night draw coldest digits

5,0,6,8

triads

506x 568x 508x 865x

Reply #39

ineedahit — Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:23:43 GMT

thanks igamble

gonna have to digest this...this is my first dable in p4 , i usually only do p3 ...

i saw the ohio triad u posted hit today , but not in straight order this time.... you saying you play all those triads in straight order only ? like 265x

Reply #38

Igamble — Sun, 13 Oct 2013 06:30:54 GMT

here's 2 triads guaranteed to hit in OH within the next 5-7 days .765/465

Reply #37

Igamble — Sun, 13 Oct 2013 06:15:48 GMT

to know in advance of say 1-3 weeks a BOXED winning triad or triads is extremely easy of course i can have it in straight as well as x123 and cover all posibilities OF 123 BOX -123,213,231,321,132,312 ..i can't say how i do it for obvious reasons.

BUT 2 know the 4digit and the exact sequence is very difficult if you play p4 all differnt digits,difficult if you play p4 one double,easy if you play p4 two doubles and extremely easy if you play p4 triples. So write this down and get to work .... [ More ]

Reply #36

LAVERNE MALONEY — Sat, 12 Oct 2013 20:05:26 GMT

WOW!

Okay Wentworth, I am going to send you a PM to give you extensive help. It is not fair to ineedahit to continue explaining this in the thread.

Reply #35

Wentworth — Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:59:58 GMT

Thankyou for your reply Laverne i appreciate it very much. I guess its just me i read and read but i still dont understand what youre saying.. im also form the tristate games area and i looked at my past numbers over and over but i dont see your point. Many times one number comes from the day before but its not the lowest number its usually any one of the three and sometimes two will come out together but mostly just one . any one thanks again.

Reply #34

LAVERNE MALONEY — Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:53:26 GMT

Wishing you the best. Below using the Search Past Results you will find three months of the triads in action in TN.

I have not seen any of the triads you have listed above since Sept. In looking at the history some of the triads appear every month.

Draw Date State Game Results

Mon, Sep 30, 2013 Tennessee Cash 4 Evening 0-9-2-4, Lucky Sum: 15

Thu, Sep 19, 2013 Tennessee Cash 4 Midday 1-9-4-0, Lucky Sum: 14

Wed, Sep 18, 2013 Tennessee Cash 4 Evening 2-2-4-0, Lucky Sum

Reply #33

gra8*2win — Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:07:16 GMT

Testing this for tennessee.......past 20 days coldest 4 digits......1420 (for cash 4)

triads are 142x 140x 120x 420x let the games begin........

Reply #32

LAVERNE MALONEY — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 23:30:02 GMT

Wentworth, this is the thread to which you are referring

The One Hundred Twenty Combinations Strategy - Lottery Post Forums

The most unique aspect of the one hundred twenty arrangement is that each group is lead by the least of them.

In the first row of #s shown, the digit 0 is less than the 12 in the #012, the digit 0 is less than the 13 in the #013.

0's 012 013 014 015 016 017 018 019 023 024

Take a look at the next group, in this row of #s shown, the digit 1 is less than the 2... [ More ]

Reply #31

ineedahit — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:43:20 GMT

8479 today

took a little over the 6 draws for this one, but i only used 12 days of draws... ill figure out the next 4 coldest after tonights drawing

Reply #30

Wentworth — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:34:23 GMT

Hey Laverne.. this isnt a question about this post BUT,,, i saw your 120 pairs system and i dont understand it can you help? What do you mean by the LEAST of these when speaking about the numbers? it looks good but i dont really understand what you are trying to show... thanks if you can reply it would be GRRREATLY appreciated

Reply #29

ineedahit — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 00:43:32 GMT

i do know spending 3 bucks to play this number every way straight 25cent online would make you 2,225 dollars richer

Reply #28

ineedahit — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 00:40:22 GMT

tonight 367x hits !!!!

7673 ohio

there is definately something to this .... it would be cool if other people do it for their state and post the triads to see how good it works besides ohio ....

i like your strategy on the doubles cash4ninja .... a dollar box on a double pays like 800 online right

Reply #27

ineedahit — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:45:34 GMT

thanks lottobux , that looks to be pretty nifty softwarer ill check it out

yesterday just messing around i looked at the last 14 DAY drawings ( the current page of my notebook has only 14 days of drawings far) so the coldest digits i had were 8735 for the day draw ... today 5758 hit ... so the winning triad would have been there 875x and its a double , so that would have been a nice hit ... i also have 8,5,6,9 as the coldest for night draw so ill see what happens there...

Reply #26

LottoMomma — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 05:08:18 GMT

Okay.. ineedahit!

I used my 3 digit strategy and applied it to the pic 4 and came up with a group of numbers as I already told you about in my post in response to yours...

Well tonight 4486 came in and 4865 was on the list of combos I made up yesterday afternoon. You recall I wrote and 8761 came in yesterday and 8076 was on the list.. so the list is showing the 3x of the number.. now it's just a matter of figuring out how to match up the last number? Any thoughts? How do you do this on you... [ More ]

Reply #25

LottoBux — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 00:29:22 GMT

I Find 20 Draws To Be A Pretty Good Number For Backtesting.

Most Of The Winning Combos Normally Contain A Mix Of Hot/Cold Digits.

You Can Try Experimenting With The Following Excel Program

The Pick 4 Excel Worksheet By Diamond Palace Is Programmed To Use 7 Digits.

You Can Use The 7 Coldest, 6 Cold/1 Hot, 5 Cold/2 Hot...All The Way To 7 Hottest.

You Can Enter As Many Draws As You Want And There Is A Seperate Sheet For Midday And Evening Draws Already Setup.

You Can Do A Seperate... [ More ]

Reply #24

ineedahit — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:43:54 GMT

i dont do picks for this, i only posted for the state i play because thats where i backtested it..... this is something you have to get a pen and paper and try and see if it works where you live ...

Reply #23

brokemike357 — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:39:14 GMT

What about Michigan picks please.

Reply #22

ineedahit — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:32:21 GMT

its easy to backtest .... as long as you have a way to look at 20 days of previous drawings .. look at a few different periods of20 draws.... and see .... im not 100% if 20 days is the sweet spot maybe its 25 or maybe its 15 ... really no right or wrong just try it out a few ways and see if any are working

good luck

Reply #21

lele100 — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 17:35:10 GMT

Thanks for sharing, I'm going to try this and see if it will help me pinpoint which one of my triads are due. gl

Reply #20

ineedahit — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 04:45:41 GMT

i think i understand what your saying about your p3 strategy .... but ive never done that....i use a mix of due digits, sums, and a couple different ways of predicting pairs or doubles for each day to make my p3 predictions ...but im always trying to learn new methods.... i have found that keeping it simple is the best approach.....

oh as far as filtering numbers one way i do that is by looking for numbers that have sums that are due or overdue

another way is if you figure out which

Reply #19

ineedahit — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 04:18:01 GMT

well the thing is ... as of right now, this is just for box play as i dont have the filtering expertise like our friend cash4ninja and others use..... if you have 4 triads that equals 40 numbers .... if you played them online 25cents each that would be 10 dollars a drawing.(i said 8 dollars previously, that was incorrect)... which is pretty affordable for most people who play online.. so in the form that its in now the system will not produce a big payday ... but once i tweak things im sure i co... [ More ]

Reply #18

ineedahit — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 03:47:58 GMT

cool....yea on most backests i did taking a block of 20 drawings... a few times the hit came the very next day or drawing

Reply #17

ineedahit — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 02:28:09 GMT

hey guys, im at work at the moment snuck off right quick, surprised to see some action on this post....ill respond when i get in a little later....hope we had some winners tonight p3 or p4

Reply #16

LottoMomma — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 02:25:04 GMT

OKay. Ineedahit.. I posted earlier about liking your strategy and seeing if you could utilize the process for 3 digit to make it work for the 4 digit predictions?

So what I did tonight was use the last 20 games from my evening 4 digit in MI and use the strategy for the 3 digit for the 36 combo numbers and I came up with 24 4 digit combinations.

And one combo 8076 was within 1 digit of matching our 8761 for tonight's drawing. I think that is pretty darn close for the 1st time attempt to s... [ More ]

Reply #15

Feisty1 — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 00:01:07 GMT

Wow Lexi, your 98 came! The question now is will this upset our cold strategy

Reply #14

Feisty1 — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 20:04:59 GMT

Are you using the draws combined? In the example I used above, I used only midday draws. And from what I've found, when you want to play the all cold/hot you need to use the draws separately. Then for the in-between times use the combined.

I have 4, 9, 2, 7 for the eve side.

Reply #13

LottoMomma — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 20:04:45 GMT

Hi, Ineedahit..

I ran across your post as I am trying to go back to basics from playing F5, Lotto 47, MM and PB and see if I can perfect Pick3 and Pick 4 and then work my way back up from there! LOL

I ran across some great info online about Pick 3 for using the last 10 drawings and making 36 combos and play them for 7 days. On paper on my 1st pass I had 3 out of 5 hits in the 1st 5 days. again on paper before putting money to it. And again like you indicated it would be pricey to play... [ More ]

Reply #12

Lex113 — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:31:05 GMT

Ok. I only used this month's numbers (Oct.). Thank you.

For this evening I have 9 8 7 2 which gave me 978x 982x 972x 872x

Reply #11

Feisty1 — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:09:14 GMT

Hey Lex113

That's just the way the numbers fell according to an Excel file that I use to track the digits. Its from Winsumloosesum's P3/4 Excel charts. It definitely comes in handy when trying to isolate the hots/colds. I've been looking at this for a while and found that this sort of play is NOT an everyday play, just by virtue of using either all hot or cold; but requires waiting it out and discipline ... something I'm still working on

Reply #10

LAVERNE MALONEY — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 18:59:26 GMT

Thanks for posting ineedahit!

Most importantly thanks for sharing with us the steps of your system how it works.

Reply #9

Lex113 — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 18:53:34 GMT

Hi Feisty, just curious why did you choose 5 and not 0 as one of the coldest midday digit

Reply #8

cash4ninja — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 18:09:59 GMT

I would havr hit ny. Look above at my examples. My permutation that smash any lotto Is

Double. High digit. Double. Low digit.

With x being one of the triads digits.

Boom ......

I am top 10 pick 4 predictor on Earth

Reply #7

Feisty1 — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 17:37:48 GMT

ineedahit,

This strategy would have worked very nicely in NY today. I have 5,4,7,2 as the coldest for Midday.

547x

572x

472x

475x

10/6 Midday 7572

Reply #6

ineedahit — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:36:23 GMT

using last 20 drawings i have 8,3,6,7 for ohio

836x

867x

837x

367x

Reply #5

SergeM — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 13:10:43 GMT

Did you backtest

Reply #4

cash4ninja — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 12:10:56 GMT

Id play 8780 0807 7870

9897 8987 7978

9890 8980 0908

9790 7970 0907

All atraight.

Reply #3

m3ikaChiz007 — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 11:44:06 GMT

Ineedahit, this sounds very interesting and resourceful! I am definitely going to look into it and add it as a tool when doing pick 4 workouts. Thank you so much for posting and the best of luck to you

Reply #2

cash4ninja — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 11:15:21 GMT

I keep it simple also. Youre on to something. Good luck.

Reply #1

ineedahit — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 08:18:07 GMT

only used the last 12 days instead of 20 but for ohio the coldest digits in the last 12 days are 8,7,9,0

so im looking for

870x 879x 890x 790x

if this doesnt produce a hit within 6 drawings , ill try it like i originally did using 20 days ...

using coldest digits to get winning p4 triads?

ineedahit — Sun, 06 Oct 2013 07:52:41 GMT

hey , i only play/predict for p3 .. but i have decided to start looking at p4 and seeing if i can find a method that works for me.... one thing i thought to try today was looking the last 20 days of winning p4 numbers and it seems pretty promising..all i did was

i counted how many times each digit.. 0-9 hit in the last 20 days then i took the 4 digits that hit the least amount of times and made triads out of them so for example lets say 3,0,2,1 were the 4 digits that hit the least the tria... [ More ]