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using coldest digits to get winning p4 triads?

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hey , i only play/predict for p3 .. but i have decided to start looking at p4 and seeing if i can find a method that works for me.... one thing i thought to try today was looking the last 20 days of winning p4 numbers and it seems pretty promising..all i did was

i counted how many times each digit.. 0-9  hit in the last 20 days then i took the 4 digits that hit the least amount of times and made triads out of them so for example lets say 3,0,2,1 were the 4 digits that hit the least the triads i would have are 302x 301x 321x and 021x ... in the few backtests i did... one of the triads would hit within 1 to 6 drawings ... i also tried it by just using the day draw and night draw and it worked also.... of couse it would be hard to play 40 numbers retail, but online its pretty easy to play 40 picks and spend 8 dollars a drawing for a few drawings...

i want to apologize if anyone has already done this or if this is too simple or lame ...lol...

i also noticed a while ago how often mirror pairs hit in p4 (as well as p3) but im sure how to capitalize on this in p4 since obviously you need at least 3 out of the 4 digits to really profit, so i was thinking if i actually play the triads to maybe play extra on numbers that contain mirroor pairs.. 05,16,38,27,49

i did this before i went to work today and i had 5,6,8,0 written down as the most current coldest digits.... when i got home and checked what hit p4 tonight it was 0684 ... so if i had actually started play today on this method ,i would have hit the first drawing.....

if anybody wants to help out / add to/ criticize/ etc... feel free ...lol

winning numbers are found using odds , patterns, history, and a little work  - anything else is just a coincidence, unless your psychic..Wink

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    Posted: October 6, 2013, 4:18 am - IP Logged

    only used the last 12 days instead of 20 but for ohio the coldest digits in the last 12 days are 8,7,9,0

    so im looking for

    870x 879x 890x 790x

    if this doesnt produce a hit within 6 drawings , ill try it like i originally did using 20 days ...

    winning numbers are found using odds , patterns, history, and a little work  - anything else is just a coincidence, unless your psychic..Wink


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      Posted: October 6, 2013, 7:15 am - IP Logged

      only used the last 12 days instead of 20 but for ohio the coldest digits in the last 12 days are 8,7,9,0

      so im looking for

      870x 879x 890x 790x

      if this doesnt produce a hit within 6 drawings , ill try it like i originally did using 20 days ...

      I keep it simple also. Youre on to something.  Good luck.

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        Posted: October 6, 2013, 7:44 am - IP Logged

        hey , i only play/predict for p3 .. but i have decided to start looking at p4 and seeing if i can find a method that works for me.... one thing i thought to try today was looking the last 20 days of winning p4 numbers and it seems pretty promising..all i did was

        i counted how many times each digit.. 0-9  hit in the last 20 days then i took the 4 digits that hit the least amount of times and made triads out of them so for example lets say 3,0,2,1 were the 4 digits that hit the least the triads i would have are 302x 301x 321x and 021x ... in the few backtests i did... one of the triads would hit within 1 to 6 drawings ... i also tried it by just using the day draw and night draw and it worked also.... of couse it would be hard to play 40 numbers retail, but online its pretty easy to play 40 picks and spend 8 dollars a drawing for a few drawings...

        i want to apologize if anyone has already done this or if this is too simple or lame ...lol...

        i also noticed a while ago how often mirror pairs hit in p4 (as well as p3) but im sure how to capitalize on this in p4 since obviously you need at least 3 out of the 4 digits to really profit, so i was thinking if i actually play the triads to maybe play extra on numbers that contain mirroor pairs.. 05,16,38,27,49

        i did this before i went to work today and i had 5,6,8,0 written down as the most current coldest digits.... when i got home and checked what hit p4 tonight it was 0684 ... so if i had actually started play today on this method ,i would have hit the first drawing.....

        if anybody wants to help out / add to/ criticize/ etc... feel free ...lol

        Ineedahit, this sounds very interesting and resourceful!  I am definitely going to look into it and add it as a tool when doing pick 4 workouts.  Thank you so much for posting and the best of luck to you!


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          Posted: October 6, 2013, 8:10 am - IP Logged

          Id play 8780 0807 7870
          9897 8987 7978
          9890 8980 0908
          9790 7970 0907

          All atraight.

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            Posted: October 6, 2013, 9:10 am - IP Logged

            Did you backtest?

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              Posted: October 6, 2013, 11:36 am - IP Logged

              using last 20 drawings i have 8,3,6,7 for ohio

              836x
              867x
              837x
              367x

              winning numbers are found using odds , patterns, history, and a little work  - anything else is just a coincidence, unless your psychic..Wink

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                Posted: October 6, 2013, 1:37 pm - IP Logged

                ineedahit,

                This strategy would have worked very nicely in NY today.  I have 5,4,7,2 as the coldest for Midday.

                547x
                572x
                472x
                475x

                10/6 Midday 7572

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                  Posted: October 6, 2013, 2:09 pm - IP Logged

                  I would havr hit ny.  Look above at my examples.  My permutation that smash any lotto Is

                  Double. High digit. Double. Low digit. 

                  With x being one of the triads digits. 

                  Boom ......

                  I am top 10 pick 4 predictor on Earth

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                    Posted: October 6, 2013, 2:53 pm - IP Logged

                    ineedahit,

                    This strategy would have worked very nicely in NY today.  I have 5,4,7,2 as the coldest for Midday.

                    547x
                    572x
                    472x
                    475x

                    10/6 Midday 7572

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                    Hi Feisty, just curious why did you choose 5 and not 0 as one of the coldest midday digit?

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                      Posted: October 6, 2013, 2:59 pm - IP Logged

                      hey , i only play/predict for p3 .. but i have decided to start looking at p4 and seeing if i can find a method that works for me.... one thing i thought to try today was looking the last 20 days of winning p4 numbers and it seems pretty promising..all i did was

                      i counted how many times each digit.. 0-9  hit in the last 20 days then i took the 4 digits that hit the least amount of times and made triads out of them so for example lets say 3,0,2,1 were the 4 digits that hit the least the triads i would have are 302x 301x 321x and 021x ... in the few backtests i did... one of the triads would hit within 1 to 6 drawings ... i also tried it by just using the day draw and night draw and it worked also.... of couse it would be hard to play 40 numbers retail, but online its pretty easy to play 40 picks and spend 8 dollars a drawing for a few drawings...

                      i want to apologize if anyone has already done this or if this is too simple or lame ...lol...

                      i also noticed a while ago how often mirror pairs hit in p4 (as well as p3) but im sure how to capitalize on this in p4 since obviously you need at least 3 out of the 4 digits to really profit, so i was thinking if i actually play the triads to maybe play extra on numbers that contain mirroor pairs.. 05,16,38,27,49

                      i did this before i went to work today and i had 5,6,8,0 written down as the most current coldest digits.... when i got home and checked what hit p4 tonight it was 0684 ... so if i had actually started play today on this method ,i would have hit the first drawing.....

                      if anybody wants to help out / add to/ criticize/ etc... feel free ...lol

                      Thanks for posting ineedahit!

                      Most importantly thanks for sharing with us the steps of your system & how it works.

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                        Posted: October 6, 2013, 3:09 pm - IP Logged

                        Hi Feisty, just curious why did you choose 5 and not 0 as one of the coldest midday digit?

                        Hey Lex113

                        That's just the way the numbers fell according to an Excel file that I use to track the digits.  Its from Winsumloosesum's P3/4 Excel charts.  It definitely comes in handy when trying to isolate the hots/colds.  I've been looking at this for a while and found that this sort of play is NOT an everyday play, just by virtue of using either all hot or cold; but requires waiting it out and discipline ... something I'm still working on!

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                          Hey Lex113

                          That's just the way the numbers fell according to an Excel file that I use to track the digits.  Its from Winsumloosesum's P3/4 Excel charts.  It definitely comes in handy when trying to isolate the hots/colds.  I've been looking at this for a while and found that this sort of play is NOT an everyday play, just by virtue of using either all hot or cold; but requires waiting it out and discipline ... something I'm still working on!

                          Ok. I only used this month's numbers (Oct.). Thank you.

                          For this evening I have 9 8 7 2 which gave me 978x 982x 972x 872x

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                            Posted: October 6, 2013, 4:04 pm - IP Logged

                            Hi, Ineedahit..

                             

                            I ran across your post as I am trying to go back to basics from playing F5, Lotto 47, MM and PB and see if I can perfect Pick3 and Pick 4 and then work my way back up from there! LOL

                            I ran across some great info online about Pick 3 for using the last 10 drawings and making 36 combos and play them for 7 days. On paper on my 1st pass I had 3 out of 5 hits in the 1st 5 days. again on paper before putting money to it.   And again like you indicated  it would be pricey to play $36 for one day on those combos if you wanted to cover straight and boxed and then you'd have to be real lucky to have picked a straight number.   And then even at $18 boxed the return in MI is only $41.  So, I have come to the conclusion some sort of filtering has to be involved.

                            Which brings me to your 4 digit platform.  I too have entertained the idea to try and use the same information and try to come up with some Pick4 predictions.  Can they be achieved the same way?  I think I had read that  you go back either 20 or 15 games for your history and evaluate the pick 4 game from there.

                            I see your thoughts on the cold numbers being due and I know alot of the other 3 digit predictors talk about looking for those cold due numbers but as in regular lotto I know that all the HOT numbers don't usually come together as well as all the COLD numbers don't either. 

                            You talked about your 302x, 301x, 321x and 021x and had some success with the triads but just a thought might you consider connecting the dots on those with some of the hot numbers for those past 20 draws?  Might you check it that way to see how your results pan out.. on paper 1st of course?   

                            DId you happen to notice when the 0684 came instead of the 5680 you anticipated, did you notice if that "4" was a hot number from your last 20 drawings?  Just a thought for evaluation?

                            You have given me some good ideas to play with myself.  So, I am game and willing to bounce ideas!   I think you're on to something or at least would like to think so!!

                            LM

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                              Posted: October 6, 2013, 4:04 pm - IP Logged

                              Ok. I only used this month's numbers (Oct.). Thank you.

                              For this evening I have 9 8 7 2 which gave me 978x 982x 972x 872x

                              Are you using the draws combined?  In the example I used above, I used only midday draws.  And from what I've found, when you want to play the all cold/hot you need to use the draws separately.  Then for the in-between times use the combined.

                              I have 4, 9, 2, 7 for the eve side.