Systems Do Work...

Reply #24

Lucky Loser — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:58:20 GMT

Playing fixed dates has produced several $1 million plus jackpots so that system already proved to be a success.

It certainly has and the winners of those jackpots were faithful to their cause and didn't skip the so-called low jackpots just to 'try' and win 'more' money. The mindset was simply to stick with their sentimental numbers until/if they hit. The key was their 'consistency and faithfulness with playing. Had any of those players decided to 'skip' draws due to it not being enough... [ More ]

Reply #23

Stack47 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:55:34 GMT

That's an interesting question and probably depends on lottery terminology and the definition of a system . Dates are fixed numbers and system play usually results in playing different numbers in every drawing. If two players were using the same system, IE both using fixed birthday and anniversary dates, both would not win the same jackpot unless they were both using the same dates.

If a MM system was to add 1 to each of the last five numbers drawn and subtract 1 from the last bonus number, a... [ More ]

Reply #22

jimmy4164 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 05:34:55 GMT

Now you're asking the right questions

Reply #21

noise-gate — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:44:31 GMT

If someone used their birthday, the children's birthdays, anniversary etc- would that be classified as a system if they won either the PB or MM?

if so, what of all those other folks who have been using birthdays, anniversaries etc etc for years and have nothing to show for it- does it mean their system is broken

Reply #20

Stack47 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:37:09 GMT

A 12 line 3 if 4 wheel using all 12 numbers five times each wouldn't be enough coverage to expect a 5 + 1 win or a 5 + 0 win, but with 25 winning numbers on 12 lines out of 60, at least three 3 number matches, and and the bonus number on 3 lines, it would be a nice payday.

Reply #19

Coin Toss — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 03:59:28 GMT

veganlife125,

What you say is true but the saying came from inside the pits.

As for the tipping, it's not just geezers........a group of stiffs is known as a Minnesota junket.

Reply #18

veganlife125 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 01:38:01 GMT

Coin Toss in Vegas its the Old Geezers playing the slots that have eyes, ears, and no heart . They won't tip the waitresses a dollar for a drink but will put a hundred in a machine real quick the cheap skates haha. so tip her everytime she brings a drink CT and friends. Its the best bet in Vegas. If you don't believe me just ask Tiger Woods he will tell you its true

Reply #17

RJOh — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 05:35:27 GMT

That someone was a bonehead if he thought players in areas that sold the most tickets should be penalized with higher odds. It's not the states or areas that win the jackpots but individual players and all players have he same chance of winning regardless of where they buy their tickets.

When the MM and PB challenges were 12+4, the number of combinations covered were 3168. Even if someone had all 5+1 winning numbers, it unlikely they would have played even 25% of those combinations.

Reply #16

Stack47 — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 05:12:01 GMT

Somebody wanted the PB and MM rules changed so states with smaller populations and lower ticket sales could get better chances of winning the jackpot and the the 5 + 0 matches. If there was a 155,000 ticket LP MM pool, it would exceed the money bet in 22 states the last drawing.

When the MM and PB challenges were 12 + 4, I wondered what would happen if somebody predicted 5 + 1 in that, but didn't play it.

Reply #15

Stack47 — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 04:51:56 GMT

The gambling industry as a whole, all types of wagering, considers there's only two things that can be beat, and they are poker and sports betting.

The topic is Systems Do Work and maybe I'm just making a wild guess here, but since this is a lottery discussion forum, the systems in question are lottery systems. Do Steve Wynn, Gary Loveman, and James Murren consider you their spokesman for the gambling industry as a whole ?

Will you go further off topic by spinning an amusing story about K... [ More ]

Reply #14

Coin Toss — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 01:57:59 GMT

bluerain, Pick3Guy,

MM and PB jackpots have been won playing birthdays, anniversaries, birth years, house numbers, etc.... against odds much greater then the Pick 3.

Reply #13

mrcraft — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 01:39:58 GMT

Yeah, the best I've seen this year was someone predicting the top prize in Georgia's All-or-Nothing game for $250,000. He had 5 identical lines for $1.25 million that day. I've seen some 5/5 matches on pick 5 and 5/6 matches on pick 6, but that's about it.

Reply #12

Pick3Guy — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 23:08:56 GMT

Also, anniversaries, license-plate numbers, room numbers, lucky numbers, horoscopes, and even Quick Picks.

Reply #11

bluerain — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 22:23:59 GMT

how can people play pick 3 and use birthdays is beyond me

Reply #10

RJOh — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:13:37 GMT

Even if all the LP members contributed a buck to a LP PB pool, we would get a not very good 0.04% chance of winning the jackpot, but we should get a few $100 winners.

I've watched the prediction board over the years where every member can contribute at least ten predictions for every game played in the US and I've never seen anyone match all the numbers in a jackpot game with jackpots exceeding $5M. There have been some 5of5 matches but those games jackpots seldom exceed $1M. There have been... [ More ]

Reply #9

Coin Toss — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:42:21 GMT

Vey es mir, once again our resident Mr. Assumes Everything posts.

No one said poker players are betting against the casino. they bet against each other, the casino rakes the pot. In some casinos the poker room is actually a private concession that uses casino employees to run it.

Reply #8

Stack47 — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:08:15 GMT

Don't have any back in the day stories and hope it won't be necessary to correct the fallacy that poker players are playing against the casinos.

Even if all the LP members contributed a buck to a LP PB pool, we would get a not very good 0.04% chance of winning the jackpot, but we should get a few $100 winners. I don't pay much attention to the one a day MM thing, but if those members could pick all 5 numbers in one drawing, it's possible to wheel their predictions with $155,351.

I doubt it... [ More ]

Reply #7

Lucky Loser — Sun, 08 Jun 2014 16:00:26 GMT

Thank you for the kind words and, most of all, recognizing that those three compiled are ideal for a true system. Also, grwurston fortifies that with observing everything that's going on from one draw to the next. All these things applied collectively will produce wins...and regularly. Granted, there must be enough money and numbers involved also...$5 ain't gonna keep anyone from goin' into their pocket to play every time.

L.L.

Reply #6

Pick3Guy — Sun, 08 Jun 2014 02:56:12 GMT

That would go for any of the games.

Reply #5

grwurston — Sun, 08 Jun 2014 02:54:36 GMT

Number 1 rule CT, Never full in love with a #. Most times it will just take your $$$$ and leave you

Reply #4

Coin Toss — Sun, 08 Jun 2014 02:47:03 GMT

Yeah grwurston, I thought about that.

My numbers and I can't stop playing them now , etc....

Cards, dice roulette balls, and lotteries have 'eyes, ears, and no heart .

They see what you bet, hear what you bet, and are heartless about making sure those bets don't win.

Reply #3

grwurston — Sun, 08 Jun 2014 01:41:06 GMT

And a lot of sports bettors get beat because they make 'heart' bets.

Lottery players get beat too. Only we call them favorites or pet numbers. You know, the numbers we play for weeks because we're afraid as soon as we give up on it, it will come in...

Reply #2

Coin Toss — Sat, 07 Jun 2014 23:51:27 GMT

datamon414,

Good post. We are all where our experiences have put us.

I've seen two things work, but neither one was for any lottery games.

One is a real boring progressive craps Don't system betting that four shooters don't make four passes each. It's not a pure double up though, which is economic suicide.

The other was a way of doping out NFL games by Ernie Kaufman, known as the Bookie Destroyer . He has a set of criteria to apply to NFL games but this was years ago before... [ More ]

Reply #1

RJOh — Sat, 07 Jun 2014 19:35:55 GMT

Here's a challenge to STACK 47 and COIN TOSS use your collective brain trust to find a way for the

155,351 LP members to contribute $1 each for PB tickets......

Similar challenges have been made before and no one was interested in handling the logistics of such a task and fewer members were willing to spend their money that way. LP is a good place to exchange ideas, even stupid ones but when it comes to forming lottery pools that's best left to co-workers, friends and families.

Systems Do Work...

datamon414 — Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:51:40 GMT

Simply put by my favorite guru RJOh, garbage in garbage out

Do computers work?, same principles applies.

I spent the better part of my morning reading most of the threads in this discussion

forum.Talking about LOL, informative, funny and contentious.

What a rumble between STACK47 and COIN TOSS.

LUCKY LOOSER added some wisdom in advising the practice of patience,discipline

and timing choosing your selection of digits. GRWURSTON highlighted the importance of

paying attention t... [ More ]