The secret to winning lottery with Scratch off's

Reply #40

Zebekyia — Mon, 02 May 2016 03:14:11 GMT

Good to know guys. The next time I'm on vacation in Florida I'm definitely going on a spending spree. I like the large top prizes, so hey why not try a few :).

Reply #39

Dracos — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:55:36 GMT

Yep, that last number in parenthesis refers to the ticket number in the roll/pack here in Florida.

Reply #38

James78 — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 04:54:14 GMT

One of the $20 CA Scratchers games I am playing has the parenthesis numbering too--I believe the number in the parenthesis is the number of the ticket counting backwards from the last ticket of the pack.

Reply #37

Zebekyia — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 03:22:21 GMT

1249 is the game number- 1179286 should be the book number 21 is the ticket number on the book and our state does not have the (009) parenthesis , so I couldn't tell you what those elude too. I could do some research and try to figure it out.

At least that's how I'd read the back in our state. The rest comes down to taking the total print of your game and the total prizes along with the number of tickets per book and I could tell you if you're close to a jackpot section. It would also h... [ More ]

Reply #36

skeptic — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:25:34 GMT

here's a photo of the back of two GR tickets. Each book produced a $1K and $500 - bought same day two different places. What do they tell you

Reply #35

Ralphie762 — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:30:34 GMT

I too would love to hear from those who will post real methods or strategies and who've improved on their winning percentages based on what's written in the article.

I can only say again that the most popular method that works for just about everyone who can afford it is to simply purchase in bulk.

Reply #34

Zebekyia — Thu, 28 Apr 2016 03:58:59 GMT

Trying to post a picture, but I'm not able to get it to load.

I give up until next time :).

Reply #33

Igamble — Thu, 28 Apr 2016 03:44:04 GMT

What an amazing post Zebekyia !! Seriously, i have not read something so captivating here on LP for a while....Thank you for the info shared. The lottery officials who religiously read Lp must be seriously pissed off upon reading your facts and stats....

Reply #32

SWMcCaig — Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:45:02 GMT

Don't get me wrong....I'm all for hearing about any strategy/method that people have found that will improve their chances of winning. So far though, I haven't really seen anyone post any real methods/strategies. I've read a lot of peoples opinions on distribution, etc, but no real strategy. Much less, strategies that they can show improved their winning percentage.....It's not like the pick 3 game where the numbers are finite and can definitely be won by using a specific strategy...... [ More ]

Reply #31

excoriate — Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:27:22 GMT

excellent analysis you've put into words what I've long suspected about the nature of these games. Concerning top prizes hitting at the beginning of a new game, I see that as just another layer in the illusion. Even though there could be up to 8 or so different games in a denomination supposedly with their own prize pool I believe they are rather contiguous entities, with no more than 1-3 pools going at a time.

Reply #30

Ralphie762 — Wed, 27 Apr 2016 01:32:12 GMT

I think the keywords in your response are 'there are many strategies to increase your odds'.

Which is true, there are always strategies to increase any odds in any given games, not just in scratch-offs. Would that there was one strategy that was designed to guarantee a huge win. If that were the case, there'd be no need for many of us to purchase scratch off's as we would have already hit it rich.

Certainly not trying to be a naysayer but the easiest answer to the secret to winning the lot... [ More ]

Reply #29

Zebekyia — Mon, 25 Apr 2016 06:10:23 GMT

I think you are ignoring the analysis and research. Of course I would think the same if I wanted to believe something to be random. However, I'm not going to try and change your mind. I can say after tons of research and many lessons learned there are many strategies to increase your odds and not thinking so is ignoring obvious facts.

Reply #28

SWMcCaig — Mon, 25 Apr 2016 03:38:09 GMT

I'm pretty sure that there is no strategy that will work for scratchers. Of all the lotto games out there, scratchers are the only one where there is no strategy to increase your chances of winning. It's just pure luck if you win....just my 2 cents worth.

Reply #27

James78 — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 05:16:55 GMT

I'm sure the state lotteries prefer top prizes to be hit as late as possible. I prefer that too because it improves the odds (a tiny bit) of hitting a top prize since more tickets would have been sold... But it seems top prizes get claimed when I least expect it.

My way of determining the life of the game is the percentage of its total prizes claimed (TPC); it's probably the wrong metric, but it's the only simple metric my newbie lottery brain can visualize right now.

The first scratchers... [ More ]

Reply #26

Zebekyia — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 04:25:47 GMT

If you did know within a certain threshold that certain book ranges would contain the jackpot tickets then you could increase your odds greatly.

How? If the game and books were sent out sequentially yes, however they are taking the prints now and sending out the front with the back overage tickets to presell all the losers. Take for instance it doesn't matter that I can predict the section of tickets or books within a 15% range with a 80% probability, because why? Take for instance the l... [ More ]

Reply #25

GetReal720 — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 00:29:01 GMT

I have some input on the theories posted here

First of all, I do not believe winning the lottery is fate.

You can't play if you don't win and if you buy more tickets you stand more of a chance to win.

It can only take $1 but if you play more your odds are better. It's about spending an amount

your comfortable with losing and understanding that on the whole these games are designed to

be profitable. That means some will win, but many more will lose and more money wi... [ More ]

Reply #24

Zebekyia — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:40:17 GMT

Also, think of this. Normally top prizes are hit at the back of a section of tickets or prize pool and in what the last 15%? Do you think they sent the front or the back out first :).

Reply #23

Zebekyia — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 14:48:21 GMT

Sometimes the distributor messes up and will send the wrong section of the pools out first.

Break it down to where their distribution centers are and where each of the pools are located. Sometimes a state will break it's grouping up into 3 sections and pools will feed independent sections or it's all handled at one place. If there are distribution centers geographically located and not a single one you can get into scenarios where you can predict that each section of the state will get... [ More ]

Reply #22

FiveXChamps — Tue, 19 Apr 2016 19:47:55 GMT

This is an outstanding post and I couldn't agree more. Thanks Zebe

Reply #21

James78 — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 02:35:41 GMT

I sort of believe in the pools theory for distribution of top prizes, but I have seen cases where top prizes are claimed earlier than expected (i.e., before their pools theoretically start being distributed).

For instance, a CA Scratchers $10 game came out three weeks ago, and two of its five top prizes have already been claimed with only 16% of the total prizes claimed. Shouldn't there have only been one top prize in circulation at the time

Reply #20

Jim777 — Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:03:20 GMT

Very Interesting Read and I Completely Agree that the Lottery is HIGHLY CONTROLLED by the Lottery Administrators.

There is NO WAY scratch offs could be Truly Random. If they were, someone could win 2-3 TOP Prizes in the first week of a new scratch off release. This would Ruin the states ability to PAY Off the top prize winners and leave them holding a bunch of Scratch Offs that are totally worthless.

The Lottery is Printed with an Algorithm where there are Batches of Tickets that contain L... [ More ]

Reply #19

Enigmas — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 22:58:07 GMT

Good post Zebekyia.

This is one of the reasons I believe the NYS Lottery got rid of the winners Atlas and delay posting winners and updating their remaining jackpot info.

I've noticed patterns in the winner release of games like their 1 million a year for life and how they went above and beyond in keeping players in the dark while they tried to sell off remaining tickets knowing their was no jackpot winner left. Effin con artists...

Reply #18

Zebekyia — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 21:18:21 GMT

Book/Roll/Pack I use interchangeably as they all mean the same thing. Some call them books others packs and a few rolls. Sorry for the confusion.

Reply #17

James78 — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 18:00:18 GMT

Zebekyia, thank you for all this information!

Being a newbie to scratch-offs, I thought book , pack , and roll referred to the same thing (but I may be wrong!), so I'm wondering if there is a reason why you use all three terms interchangeably instead of picking one term to use

Reply #16

Zebekyia — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:50:43 GMT

Sorry, I'm back I was auto banned for putting a link in a PM and Todd was nice enough to help me out and get me unbanned.

Yes, this is exactly correct in some games. It totally depends on the algorithm printing the game. I can give two examples to show this:

For instance; A $5 dollar game in our state called Gold Mine. Every roll that had a $250 dollar ticket in the roll would also include 2 further lower tier big hit tickets. I scratched probably 150 books of this game due to th... [ More ]

Reply #15

snapdragon — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 02:16:27 GMT

This is great info Zebekyia. Please keep sharing more ideas.

Reply #14

PendingSector — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:22:36 GMT

Zebekyia have you seen any evidence that might lend credence to the hot roll concept/theory frequently espoused in the scratch off threads here

Reply #13

PendingSector — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:07:07 GMT

Yep this is great stuff; please keep posting Zebekyia if amenable to you..

Reply #12

SWMcCaig — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:08:09 GMT

Very interesting reading.

Reply #11

Zebekyia — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 03:49:08 GMT

Last example before I log off.

After I knew the roll numbers I broke down the game. 100,000 books with 4 top prizes which would be 1 every 25,000 books. What I found that there was a pattern in almost all games for the first few jackpots on the print and a different pattern for the last few. The first few were very predictable meaning they were always within a 10-15% section of books. As I explained in the 5k for life game I predicted the top prize to be within books 72,000 and 81,0... [ More ]

Reply #10

Zebekyia — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 03:41:04 GMT

I spent a good amount of time coming up with a good way to track where jackpot rolls would be located in games, but she didn't have to do this because the state of Texas is the only lottery that does what? The state of Texas is the only lottery who posts the winning roll/book number for every jackpot ticket.

I was able to do it by driving to store that sold a jackpot ticket that was within 60 miles of me after it was claimed and buying a ticket from the rolls. Most of the time the clerk... [ More ]

Reply #9

Zebekyia — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 03:29:58 GMT

It wasn't that simple, but yes it has something to do with it. When you are buying tickets from a 30 or 50 dollar game the payout percentage is rather high per roll. A couple in our state have been up to 78%, but on average as high as 68% and 70% per roll. Say you are getting 250k to 500k a year for 20 years in gambling income. Gambling winnings is one of the few things that you can write off to the amount you win per year. Say you are being taxed at the highest tax bracket 39%. She can essentia... [ More ]

Reply #8

BlueSilverNinja — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 03:23:46 GMT

Definitely a good read and a good sign that I am on to something at least. I have not been playing much and nearly as long as you but, I have been working

on some algorithms to predict were the big winners will be instead of spending money blindly in hopes of a big win just to recoup losses. I think the major part of

finding winners is calculating the book numbers based on the odds of the prize within a given pack of scratch-offs but of course more data is needed to do this. As

mentione... [ More ]

Reply #7

rcbbuckeye — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 01:00:36 GMT

It was financially possible for her because she won a Texas Lotto jackpot. So she had all the money she needed to buy as many scratchoffs as she wanted.

Reply #6

skeptic — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 00:04:31 GMT

How about telling us the secret she used - please don't say you can't - then you shouldn't say you know

Reply #5

Zebekyia — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 23:09:24 GMT

I think if more people knew the truth they would not play. I play, because I'm addicted to trying to find that big ticket . I actually have a lawsuit that I can file against them at any time with a high probability of winning. It comes down to how tickets are disposed of and not reduced from the remaining top prizes on the site. Let's just say if I explain it you will likely be outraged and will likely have an answer to why some top prizes are never claimed other than the fact they could of been... [ More ]

Reply #4

Zebekyia — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 22:27:02 GMT

You can beat them and I have beat them. For example the the people who work for Gtech are not the most savy people ever. There is a new game they put out in the state that is literally the highest paypout ever. The problem they don't realize with the game which doesn't impact them in terms of bottom line is that the payout is so high and there is a guarenteed high payout ticket in each roll. With calculating odds you have a about a 58% chance to win money if you start on ticket 000 and buy upwar... [ More ]

Reply #3

goherd14 — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:13:57 GMT

Great read but I think you proved the original posters point. The gameis not random for the lottery but it is for the player. As you said you narrowed down what series a top prize may be in then the lottery Gods change up the packs in order to make more money first. The casual player will not be savvy enough to track books and figure it out. For the middle of the road player you could also figure this out by simply checking your lottery site to see the remaining prizes. For example here in GA on... [ More ]

Reply #2

Dracos — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 05:52:09 GMT

Excellent read, and very well written post.

I think your insights definitely highlight many truths in lottery games. Specifically, the notion of pools so that all jackpots aren't won immediately.

Reply #1

Zebekyia — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:19:54 GMT

This is not true. While scratch may seem random they are not random at all. Of course you can blow me off and just say whatever, but after spending around 100k last year on lottery tickets and making 40k i can tell you they are not entirely random. Scratchoffs are printed by an algorithm developed with a base set of logic. There are a couple of the rules that I know and rules for each game are different based off the percentage payout of a game. To help draw you a picture of why they are not ran... [ More ]

The secret to winning lottery with Scratch off's

rgse90 — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 07:51:38 GMT

I have played Scratch offs for many years. I have played the lottery for many years. And I have found the secret to winning. There is no secret. I am not trying to be funny by no means. I am trying to keep it real. I have a philosophy in life that if it is meant ot be it will be. Now I do not say to not play because hey you have to be in it to win it. But play sensible. Do not play above your head. Do not play above your means and by no means do not go without for the sake of playing these games... [ More ]