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The secret to winning lottery with Scratch off's

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I have played Scratch offs for many years. I have played the lottery for many years. And I have found the secret to winning. There is no secret. I am not trying to be funny by no means. I am trying to keep it real. I have a philosophy in life that if it is meant ot be it will be. Now I do not say to not play because hey you have to be in it to win it. But play sensible. Do not play above your head. Do not play above your means and by no means do not go without for the sake of playing these games. 

 

Fate is what fate is. If you are meant to hit the lottery you will hit. It will come. My grandmother used to say Sam, if your going to win a dollar is all you need. And she is right. If I am going to win I will. If life has it in the cards for me to win I will win. So I hope that for many who are trying to reach the stars and win you play sensible and within reason. At the end of the day, if you notice, gamblers never hit the lottery because it is not meant for them to hit only to experience the striving to hit but not the actual hit. Not every one's experience is going to be hitting the lottery. 

And also remember that not everyone that has hot the lottery has had a good experience. It has brought doom and gloom and death and drugs and alcoholism and murder and greed and hate and loss of family and friends, and law suits and fights and jealousy and conniving. So sometimes the experience is not worth the win and the win is not worth the experience  just as Jack Whittaker, whose wife said honey rip the ticket up we do not need the money. Now he sits, lost his company, paid out well over 75 lawsuits from family and friends, lost his wife, his grand daughter dead, his grand daughters boyfriend dead and he is being blamed directly and sued. He has no friends, no one to talk to and he is the loneliest man with a very rich bank account crying that he should have listened to his wife the ill fated Sunday morning. Sometimes watch what you wish for because it is the not knowing of the wish that goes wrong. 

Be satisfied you have a family, wife, husband, children, grand children, friends, job, co workers , a home a car a life, Sometimes it is the things we strive for that we appreciate the most and get the most out of than the things handed to us or too easily given to us that we push it aside and not pay too much attention to because it came too easy. 

I hope this reaches whoever it was meant to reach. 

 

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    This is not true.  While scratch may seem random they are not random at all.  Of course you can blow me off and just say whatever, but after spending around 100k last year on lottery tickets and making 40k i can tell you they are not entirely random.  Scratchoffs are printed by an algorithm developed with a base set of logic.  There are a couple of the rules that I know and rules for each game are different based off the percentage payout of a game.  To help draw you a picture of why they are not random think of scratchoffs like pull tabs.  When playing pull tabs in a bar who has the advantage?  The bartender.  The bartender knows how many tickets have been played and how many tickets remain.  Therefor if there is ever a point that the remaining money on the tickets is greater than the remaining expense the bartender could have a friend come in and play the remaining until the jackpot is hit. 

     

    You are wondering how does this apply to scratch offs.  It applies, because it's the same concept on a larger scale.  Think of scratchoffs just like bins of pulltabs.  Pulltabs come in a vat with 1-2 top prizes.  Conceptually lottery scratchoffs are the exact same.  The lottery gets tickets shipped to them via pallets and the manifest from the printer.  In the case of Gtech which owns a lot of the distrubution of state lotteries they are allowed to do "ticket pooling" which is a term that guarantees they make money.  They are allowed to presort the tickets into pools.  These pools can be thought about just like vats of pull tabs.  So say they are ticket pooling a $5 dollar game and it has 10 top prizes.  They will create 10 prize pools and seperate out the 10 top prizes into these pools. You can with a high amount of accuracy assume that tickets from the printer 1-10k had 1 winner 10001-20,000 had another and so on.  The reason i know they do this is i studied it for over 5-8 years in which i lost quite a bit of money over this time span.  The reason it's not random is if it was then they could possibly send out all the winners at the start of the game and literally loose there pants.  So a couple of games that I studied to prove this.  I spent 3 years driving to the stores that sold the winning tickets tracking the book numbers in which the "jackpot" ticket was sold on.  When calculating the percentage in which this was printed in there became a clear pattern.  I'm not going to give you all the goods, but for example say 10 top prizes on a 100,000 print game so a top prize every 10,000 tickets or 1,000 books in our hypothectical on a 100 ticket per book game.  Lets say statistically there was a section of the tickets that over 80+ percent of the time the top prize was in.  Given this I targeted two new games coming out.  They had a 5k for life game and a 2.5k for life game.  I calculated the top prize in the game to lets say between book 72000 and 84000 based off my statistical analysis.  When the print got to book 68,000 guess what happened?  The lottery jumped the print from 68k to 100k.  They did this, because they wanted to sell the next pool "loosing non jackpot tickets" and make more money.  After selling up to books 124k (2 months later) they proceeded to send out the missing section of books and the top prize was hit about 50 miles from my house and of course I drove to the store and my prediction was exactly correct.  The lottery can legally manipulate when a jackpot is sent out and I believe they can even choose the store.

     

    The lottery controls when/where/how they release the winning section of tickets.  I'm to the point of believing they also know where they are going to send it based off some statistical analysis of winner patterns in our state.  I can say this because for the last 15 years I've studied the patterns of lower tier winners that have to be reported and there are some gigantic anonomalies that can't be described by RNG.  Let's use an example of 1k winners.  I buy at a store that sells 35-40k in lottery a week.  They go through an extremely high volume of scratch tickets.  This store statistically should have a high number of 500+ winners.  I've seen this store go 3 months without a $500 or $1000 dollar winner and in the same time span my home town in a two week time span have 20 $1,000 winners a $10,000 winner 2 $20,000 dollars winners and a $1,000,000 winner.  The reason I note my hometown as an example is that it might match what this store does a week in sales for all of it's gas stations.  The odds and probabilities of this happening are so unfathomable that there is no explanation unless the lottery is pulling mid tier and small winners and doing a thing I like to call "ticket seeding".  To explain ticket seeding when sales in a region are down the lottery will intentionally send low tier jackpots to increase sales.  Human logic would think that this store is really lucky or someone won here last week i don't want to buy here, but the opposite is true.  When stores are "hot" it's more likely that sales have plunged due to the repeated lower paying out rolls being sent to your store.  They'll hit a whole area of the state and you'll see an abnormal fluctuation of lower tier winners in a town or area.  Our state lottery website has the winners over a certain amount and just map it out you'll see an obvious pattern that does not match their sales numbers.  Over an infinite lifespan the number of winners should match sales patterns and I can tell you they don't come close.

     

    Back to the rolls of tickets.  The reason every roll of scratchoff tickets is not all winners or all losers is because it's not random at all.  Every game is printed by an algorithm that tries to maximize addiction.  You might be 1 off on all your numbers and you just keep buying 1 more.  This is due to the things they know about humans and addiction.  There are other rules in which the tickets are printed off.  Say for instance on a $10 game in our state the rule of loser's in a row is 8.  This is true 95% of the time and the only time I've seen it broken is on the lower tier jackpots within the roll.  If you buy 7 tickets in a row and they are loser's I'll guarantee you the money for the ticket back on the 8th.  To add another rule the roll has to payout a certain percentage of the cost.  If this weren't true people would not win and no one would ever play.  I can tell you the guaranteed payout % of 3/4ths the games in my state.  On average most rolls guarantee around 54% of the money back.  Knowing this scratchoffs become the pulltab scenario or the counting card scearnio.  If each roll pays out X guaranteed and only this much has been won you know what's atleast left on the roll.  Coupled with the number of loser's in a row on specific games you can predict winners based off the logic.  Of course I'm with holding information, but you get the jist.  Anyway I will say you never have a chance of winning unless they decide to send a winning roll to your store unless or unless you travel the state and play randomly.  I could go on with examples and proof, but i just wanted to let you know that nothing is random whether you belive it to be.  The only thing that is random to me is PB, but that's just because I can't study the ball drop patterns and the mix patterns, because in reality if you had access to that you could predict Powerball also.

     

    If you want to hear more about how the I belive the whole thing to be rigged i'm will to go into that, because I'd like nothing more than to expose the corruption that is there.

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      This is not true.  While scratch may seem random they are not random at all.  Of course you can blow me off and just say whatever, but after spending around 100k last year on lottery tickets and making 40k i can tell you they are not entirely random.  Scratchoffs are printed by an algorithm developed with a base set of logic.  There are a couple of the rules that I know and rules for each game are different based off the percentage payout of a game.  To help draw you a picture of why they are not random think of scratchoffs like pull tabs.  When playing pull tabs in a bar who has the advantage?  The bartender.  The bartender knows how many tickets have been played and how many tickets remain.  Therefor if there is ever a point that the remaining money on the tickets is greater than the remaining expense the bartender could have a friend come in and play the remaining until the jackpot is hit. 

       

      You are wondering how does this apply to scratch offs.  It applies, because it's the same concept on a larger scale.  Think of scratchoffs just like bins of pulltabs.  Pulltabs come in a vat with 1-2 top prizes.  Conceptually lottery scratchoffs are the exact same.  The lottery gets tickets shipped to them via pallets and the manifest from the printer.  In the case of Gtech which owns a lot of the distrubution of state lotteries they are allowed to do "ticket pooling" which is a term that guarantees they make money.  They are allowed to presort the tickets into pools.  These pools can be thought about just like vats of pull tabs.  So say they are ticket pooling a $5 dollar game and it has 10 top prizes.  They will create 10 prize pools and seperate out the 10 top prizes into these pools. You can with a high amount of accuracy assume that tickets from the printer 1-10k had 1 winner 10001-20,000 had another and so on.  The reason i know they do this is i studied it for over 5-8 years in which i lost quite a bit of money over this time span.  The reason it's not random is if it was then they could possibly send out all the winners at the start of the game and literally loose there pants.  So a couple of games that I studied to prove this.  I spent 3 years driving to the stores that sold the winning tickets tracking the book numbers in which the "jackpot" ticket was sold on.  When calculating the percentage in which this was printed in there became a clear pattern.  I'm not going to give you all the goods, but for example say 10 top prizes on a 100,000 print game so a top prize every 10,000 tickets or 1,000 books in our hypothectical on a 100 ticket per book game.  Lets say statistically there was a section of the tickets that over 80+ percent of the time the top prize was in.  Given this I targeted two new games coming out.  They had a 5k for life game and a 2.5k for life game.  I calculated the top prize in the game to lets say between book 72000 and 84000 based off my statistical analysis.  When the print got to book 68,000 guess what happened?  The lottery jumped the print from 68k to 100k.  They did this, because they wanted to sell the next pool "loosing non jackpot tickets" and make more money.  After selling up to books 124k (2 months later) they proceeded to send out the missing section of books and the top prize was hit about 50 miles from my house and of course I drove to the store and my prediction was exactly correct.  The lottery can legally manipulate when a jackpot is sent out and I believe they can even choose the store.

       

      The lottery controls when/where/how they release the winning section of tickets.  I'm to the point of believing they also know where they are going to send it based off some statistical analysis of winner patterns in our state.  I can say this because for the last 15 years I've studied the patterns of lower tier winners that have to be reported and there are some gigantic anonomalies that can't be described by RNG.  Let's use an example of 1k winners.  I buy at a store that sells 35-40k in lottery a week.  They go through an extremely high volume of scratch tickets.  This store statistically should have a high number of 500+ winners.  I've seen this store go 3 months without a $500 or $1000 dollar winner and in the same time span my home town in a two week time span have 20 $1,000 winners a $10,000 winner 2 $20,000 dollars winners and a $1,000,000 winner.  The reason I note my hometown as an example is that it might match what this store does a week in sales for all of it's gas stations.  The odds and probabilities of this happening are so unfathomable that there is no explanation unless the lottery is pulling mid tier and small winners and doing a thing I like to call "ticket seeding".  To explain ticket seeding when sales in a region are down the lottery will intentionally send low tier jackpots to increase sales.  Human logic would think that this store is really lucky or someone won here last week i don't want to buy here, but the opposite is true.  When stores are "hot" it's more likely that sales have plunged due to the repeated lower paying out rolls being sent to your store.  They'll hit a whole area of the state and you'll see an abnormal fluctuation of lower tier winners in a town or area.  Our state lottery website has the winners over a certain amount and just map it out you'll see an obvious pattern that does not match their sales numbers.  Over an infinite lifespan the number of winners should match sales patterns and I can tell you they don't come close.

       

      Back to the rolls of tickets.  The reason every roll of scratchoff tickets is not all winners or all losers is because it's not random at all.  Every game is printed by an algorithm that tries to maximize addiction.  You might be 1 off on all your numbers and you just keep buying 1 more.  This is due to the things they know about humans and addiction.  There are other rules in which the tickets are printed off.  Say for instance on a $10 game in our state the rule of loser's in a row is 8.  This is true 95% of the time and the only time I've seen it broken is on the lower tier jackpots within the roll.  If you buy 7 tickets in a row and they are loser's I'll guarantee you the money for the ticket back on the 8th.  To add another rule the roll has to payout a certain percentage of the cost.  If this weren't true people would not win and no one would ever play.  I can tell you the guaranteed payout % of 3/4ths the games in my state.  On average most rolls guarantee around 54% of the money back.  Knowing this scratchoffs become the pulltab scenario or the counting card scearnio.  If each roll pays out X guaranteed and only this much has been won you know what's atleast left on the roll.  Coupled with the number of loser's in a row on specific games you can predict winners based off the logic.  Of course I'm with holding information, but you get the jist.  Anyway I will say you never have a chance of winning unless they decide to send a winning roll to your store unless or unless you travel the state and play randomly.  I could go on with examples and proof, but i just wanted to let you know that nothing is random whether you belive it to be.  The only thing that is random to me is PB, but that's just because I can't study the ball drop patterns and the mix patterns, because in reality if you had access to that you could predict Powerball also.

       

      If you want to hear more about how the I belive the whole thing to be rigged i'm will to go into that, because I'd like nothing more than to expose the corruption that is there.

      Excellent read, and very well written post. 

       

      I think your insights definitely highlight many truths in lottery games. Specifically, the notion of "pools" so that all jackpots aren't won immediately.

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        Great read but I think you proved the original posters point. The gameis not random for the lottery but it is for the player. As you said you narrowed down what series a top prize may be in then the lottery Gods change up the packs in order to make more money first. The casual player will not be savvy enough to track books and figure it out. For the middle of the road player you could also figure this out by simply checking your lottery site to see the remaining prizes. For example here in GA one of the $30 games has 36 million $ prizes. You would see that number ticking up very quickly the first year. It got to a point where 9 tickets were left then all of a sudden no million $ winners in about a year. Add to that the lotteries continue to create games to pull player attention. That way the game slows down and people forget about it while continuing to make money off the duds. Remember by now most of the prizes between  $500 and $50,000 are gone so your odds of getting those have decreased. I think the only rule to remember is the house always wins. The only way to beat it is to become that random player who hits a jackpot prize.

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          You can beat them and I have beat them.  For example the the people who work for Gtech are not the most savy people ever.  There is a new game they put out in the state that is literally the highest paypout ever.  The problem they don't realize with the game which doesn't impact them in terms of bottom line is that the payout is so high and there is a "guarenteed high" payout ticket in each roll.  With calculating odds you have a about a 58% chance to win money if you start on ticket 000 and buy upward until you get to the higher denomination payout.  This is only the 2nd flaw I've ever found in a lottery game, but it is a statistical flaw no matter.

           

          The other part you can play to your advantage is think of lottery tickets like counting cards.  When you go into a gas station each roll has a minimum payout and the algorithm that prints them only has so many denomination types to make that payout hit.  If you are keeping track of the rolls and say like the 30 dollar tickets in our state pay out typically about 54+%.  At min and this is rare it will payout 290/600 which is very bad, but this is the least possible it can payout.  I've only seen this happens 2 times on about 100 rolls, however it's possible.  I watched a lady who spends a lot in the store buy 5 30 dollar tickets and win 30 bucks.  I look at the roll this way.  If I buy the whole thing there is atelast 260 dollars on there and the most i can loose is 160 dollars.  Coupled with the fact that 95% of the time there is a 100+ winner on the 30 dollar roll I'm willing to gamble at this point.  Yes, you are vs. the other people playing the game, but you can always have advantages.

           

          The last way to beat them is off of there promotions.  After last year they had to implement limits to their sales promotions, because of two of us who were going to the events and spending 3k at each event.  The lottery would have random promotions around the state in which you buy tickets to spin a wheel.  This weel had anywhere to $4 dollars in tickets to $15 dollars in tickets.  Well, I found a $20 dollar game that was paying back 64% on average, so essentially if I could make up 36% of my money on the wheel I could make money.  Well, after spinning the wheel over 10k times you get to the point where you can hit any slot on the wheel.  If I'm hitting a spot on the wheel that is a $5 dollar ticket on average most payback about 54% on minimum.  Well for each sping I'm making .54x5 and 5x.64.  Which equates to 2.70 and 3.20.  I was making 5.90 for every $5 dollars I spent which was around 18%.  Now this wasn't including large tickets such as anything that had more than the min say a $500 ticket.  This was only calculating the very possible minimum.  This wasn't even the best promotion they ever had which paid around 40% on your money.  They basically had a draw board with 30 Slots.  For every $5 dollars you played you would get to draw a number from the board.  Well, there were all kinds of things on the board like bags/shirts etc..., but if you bought all 30 slots it equated to 43 free $5 dollar tickets.  So essentially here's the minimum math on it.  I spend 150 and make 54%.  I get 43x5 215 dollars more in free tickets and make 54% on min.  Essentially what it averaged over the long run was 40% on my money.  We got to the point where they canceled the promotion after we spent 13 grand in one location.  I made 5,200 in about 18 hours of scratching.  The worst part about buy 13k worth of tickets was scratching them all.  If you want to break someone from gambling send them to my house and they can scratch for days.

           

           

          Anyway there are many ways to beat the lottery it's a matter of analyzing each game and playing it in ways they would never think....

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            I think if more people knew the truth they would not play.  I play, because I'm addicted to trying to find that "big ticket".  I actually have a lawsuit that I can file against them at any time with a high probability of winning.  It comes down to how tickets are disposed of and not reduced from the remaining top prizes on the site.  Let's just say if I explain it you will likely be outraged and will likely have an answer to why some top prizes are never claimed other than the fact they could of been thrown away.

             

            I'm also fairly certain I know how the lady with the PH D in Texas has won the jackpots and why it was financially possible.  The story that was ran on here a couple of months or a year ago was close to hitting the nail on the head, but I believe I know exactly how she did it and why she was able to afford it.

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              I think if more people knew the truth they would not play.  I play, because I'm addicted to trying to find that "big ticket".  I actually have a lawsuit that I can file against them at any time with a high probability of winning.  It comes down to how tickets are disposed of and not reduced from the remaining top prizes on the site.  Let's just say if I explain it you will likely be outraged and will likely have an answer to why some top prizes are never claimed other than the fact they could of been thrown away.

               

              I'm also fairly certain I know how the lady with the PH D in Texas has won the jackpots and why it was financially possible.  The story that was ran on here a couple of months or a year ago was close to hitting the nail on the head, but I believe I know exactly how she did it and why she was able to afford it.

              How about telling us the secret she used - please don't say you can't - then you shouldn't say you know

              wins: $10,000 Jubilee - $5,000 $200MS - 32 $1k's - 185 $500's - 5 $400's

               

               

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                I think if more people knew the truth they would not play.  I play, because I'm addicted to trying to find that "big ticket".  I actually have a lawsuit that I can file against them at any time with a high probability of winning.  It comes down to how tickets are disposed of and not reduced from the remaining top prizes on the site.  Let's just say if I explain it you will likely be outraged and will likely have an answer to why some top prizes are never claimed other than the fact they could of been thrown away.

                 

                I'm also fairly certain I know how the lady with the PH D in Texas has won the jackpots and why it was financially possible.  The story that was ran on here a couple of months or a year ago was close to hitting the nail on the head, but I believe I know exactly how she did it and why she was able to afford it.

                It was financially possible for her because she won a Texas Lotto jackpot. So she had all the money she needed to buy as many scratchoffs as she wanted.

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                  Definitely a good read and a good sign that I am on to something at least. I have not been playing much and nearly as long as you but, I have been working

                  on some algorithms to predict were the big winners will be instead of spending money blindly in hopes of a big win just to recoup losses. I think the major part of

                  finding winners is calculating the book numbers based on the odds of the prize within a given pack of scratch-offs but of course more data is needed to do this. As

                  mentioned in the post, stores do skip book numbers and it is annoying because your basically trying to search in a given radius for a particular book number that could

                  be miles away from you or right under your nose. I find it very assuring to know that I'm not wasting my time in my efforts to win a top tier prize. Thanks for shedding

                  some light on this.

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                    It was financially possible for her because she won a Texas Lotto jackpot. So she had all the money she needed to buy as many scratchoffs as she wanted.

                    It wasn't that simple, but yes it has something to do with it.  When you are buying tickets from a 30 or 50 dollar game the payout percentage is rather high per roll.  A couple in our state have been up to 78%, but on average as high as 68% and 70% per roll.  Say you are getting 250k to 500k a year for 20 years in gambling income.  Gambling winnings is one of the few things that you can write off to the amount you win per year.  Say you are being taxed at the highest tax bracket 39%.  She can essentially gamble for 60 cents on the dollar.  If the payout of the rolls are higher than this she could of essentially gambled on the tax money and recouped it.  Of course she would have to save all the loosing tickets and the receipts, but I've never paid tax on a gambling winnings nor have a won more than 1k.

                     

                    I spent a good amount of time coming up with a good way to track where jackpot rolls would be located in games, but she didn't have to do this because the state of Texas is the only lottery that does what?  The state of Texas is the only lottery who posts the winning roll/book number for every jackpot ticket.  With this information it would of been easy to predict the section of tickets a jackpot winner was in and coupled with the high payout percent on the game and the tax write-offs you are gambling for a little of nothing.  Of course there is a little more to it than this, but at a high level this is how it started.  If I ever won a jackpot i would take it over a time period and gamble on the governments dime by finding a very high payout percentage game and w/e is lost is written off your taxes. 

                     

                    In terms she mathematically narrowed down in terms of section of the game the jackpot was in and if the Texas Lottery sequentially sent out there roles from lowest to highest it would be super simple to predict when to mass buy tickets.  Couple with the fact she was gambling for pennies on the dollar it's a no brainer.

                    Example:

                    I took two like games in my state and before Gtech took over I studied the win patterns.  Guess what like games in terms of books per jackpot hit in the same region of the state.  Do you know why?  In our state they used to release the books sequentially from South to North and it was about 14k books per release for a 5 dollar game.  There are close to 4700 retailers which equated to around 3 books per store.  I took two games that on release were about a 1 in 6400 books and 1 in 6700 books per jackpot and studied the win patterns.  Guess what on both the games the jackpots were hit in stores with adjacent cities.  I took the next game with a similar prize structure and guess what I could successfully predict on the release of the game what city it was hit in. I even drove there and bought tickets, however at the wrong gas station....  This of course is not applicable to some of the prizes that she won, but you start to see the picture.  Since Gtech took over they do prize pooling to guarantee their winnings and there is never a jackpot hit off the front of the game anymore, because they keep them back too boost there profits. 

                    Straight from the tax code:

                    You may deduct gambling losses if you itemize your deductions.  You can deduct your losses only up to the amount of your total gambling winnings. You must generally report your winnings and losses separately, rather than reporting a net amount.

                    Gambling losses are deducted on Schedule A as a miscellaneous deduction and are not subject to a 2% limit. This means that you can deduct all losses up to the amount of your winnings, not just the amount over 2% of your adjusted gross income.

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                      It wasn't that simple, but yes it has something to do with it.  When you are buying tickets from a 30 or 50 dollar game the payout percentage is rather high per roll.  A couple in our state have been up to 78%, but on average as high as 68% and 70% per roll.  Say you are getting 250k to 500k a year for 20 years in gambling income.  Gambling winnings is one of the few things that you can write off to the amount you win per year.  Say you are being taxed at the highest tax bracket 39%.  She can essentially gamble for 60 cents on the dollar.  If the payout of the rolls are higher than this she could of essentially gambled on the tax money and recouped it.  Of course she would have to save all the loosing tickets and the receipts, but I've never paid tax on a gambling winnings nor have a won more than 1k.

                       

                      I spent a good amount of time coming up with a good way to track where jackpot rolls would be located in games, but she didn't have to do this because the state of Texas is the only lottery that does what?  The state of Texas is the only lottery who posts the winning roll/book number for every jackpot ticket.  With this information it would of been easy to predict the section of tickets a jackpot winner was in and coupled with the high payout percent on the game and the tax write-offs you are gambling for a little of nothing.  Of course there is a little more to it than this, but at a high level this is how it started.  If I ever won a jackpot i would take it over a time period and gamble on the governments dime by finding a very high payout percentage game and w/e is lost is written off your taxes. 

                       

                      In terms she mathematically narrowed down in terms of section of the game the jackpot was in and if the Texas Lottery sequentially sent out there roles from lowest to highest it would be super simple to predict when to mass buy tickets.  Couple with the fact she was gambling for pennies on the dollar it's a no brainer.

                      Example:

                      I took two like games in my state and before Gtech took over I studied the win patterns.  Guess what like games in terms of books per jackpot hit in the same region of the state.  Do you know why?  In our state they used to release the books sequentially from South to North and it was about 14k books per release for a 5 dollar game.  There are close to 4700 retailers which equated to around 3 books per store.  I took two games that on release were about a 1 in 6400 books and 1 in 6700 books per jackpot and studied the win patterns.  Guess what on both the games the jackpots were hit in stores with adjacent cities.  I took the next game with a similar prize structure and guess what I could successfully predict on the release of the game what city it was hit in. I even drove there and bought tickets, however at the wrong gas station....  This of course is not applicable to some of the prizes that she won, but you start to see the picture.  Since Gtech took over they do prize pooling to guarantee their winnings and there is never a jackpot hit off the front of the game anymore, because they keep them back too boost there profits. 

                      Straight from the tax code:

                      You may deduct gambling losses if you itemize your deductions.  You can deduct your losses only up to the amount of your total gambling winnings. You must generally report your winnings and losses separately, rather than reporting a net amount.

                      Gambling losses are deducted on Schedule A as a miscellaneous deduction and are not subject to a 2% limit. This means that you can deduct all losses up to the amount of your winnings, not just the amount over 2% of your adjusted gross income.

                      "I spent a good amount of time coming up with a good way to track where jackpot rolls would be located in games, but she didn't have to do this because the state of Texas is the only lottery that does what?  The state of Texas is the only lottery who posts the winning roll/book number for every jackpot ticket."

                       

                      I was able to do it by driving to store that sold a jackpot ticket that was within 60 miles of me after it was claimed and buying a ticket from the rolls.  Most of the time the clerk would go, "Sir you don't want to buy one from that roll a guy hit a 100k on it."  Every time I said it's fine I just want a ticket from a lucky roll.  In all actuality I was doing the same thing the state of Texas does.  She didn't even have to do it the hard way.  After studying and breaking down the print you can predict with a 70-80% success rate the winning section of books within a 10-15% range.  Gtech of course combated this by "pooling" and mixing the sections of the tickets which is why you haven't seen her play anymore.  It's not possible to do anymore.

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                        Last example before I log off.

                         

                         

                        After I knew the roll numbers I broke down the game.  100,000 books with 4 top prizes which would be 1 every 25,000 books.  What I found that there was a pattern in almost all games for the first few jackpots on the print and a different pattern for the last few.  The first few were very predictable meaning they were always within a 10-15% section of books.  As I explained in the 5k for life game I predicted the top prize to be within books 72,000 and 81,000.  Of course it was in 76,131 and for almost every printed game I was right about 8 out of 10 times.  The times that I was wrong were typically prizes hit off the first 20% of tickets of the section off the front of the game, however as you can predict the printer wants to ensure the state lotteries profits, so the jackpot tickets are going to be where.  Towards the back of a print section.....

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                          Very interesting reading.

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                            Yep this is great stuff; please keep posting Zebekyia if amenable to you..

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                              Zebekyia have you seen any evidence that might lend credence to the "hot roll" concept/theory frequently espoused in the scratch off threads here?