27 minus the sum PLUS

Reply #102

Soledad — Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:28:08 GMT

In New York after 141 came out, 680, 178, 717, 144, and 519 all came up after. Wow. Impressed as usual. Wish I could see more

Reply #101

Claret — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 23:57:52 GMT

Today for NM midday, the draw came from midday 07/05/16 170 balanced, to 177. I am posting this because this was the first time I saw the future draw, and thought someone might want to see it for reference in future. I am in no way saying that I know everything about this system. Learning like others, and I like seeing references.

070716 - 985

3 1 4 7 3 7 4 1 3 7 4 7

4 5 2 1 1 5 4 1 2 2

9 7 3 3 9 5 3 4

7 1 6 5 8 7

8 7 6 6

895 can been seen on right side inverted triangl... [ More ]

Reply #100

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:57:51 GMT

See post on page 5 of this thread. All these numbers touch on the number line. So......

So 7 is first followed by the 4, drop the 1. 744 is the correct number.

Let us know how it turns out for you

Reply #99

Kevin77$ — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 08:45:13 GMT

1 comes first and last just want to check 147 would be 177

Reply #98

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 19:10:56 GMT

I use the past three draws, meaning 2 evening and 1 mid. I have tried just evening and didn't find it anymore consistent.

Nice thing about GA is it mixes digits well. One thing I have noticed about the 27-sum is if only a few digits, i.e:5 or less different digits, it doesn't perform as well. Hence, focus on pairs.

Reply #97

Kbones — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:21:14 GMT

One more thing jayhawk58, do you suggest using the last 3 evening draws for the 27 minus

Reply #96

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:19:58 GMT

The vtrac I use are the ones from the bottom row. There is another way to use vtracs and the 3-4 rundown that I have had success with. Want to be rally familiar with vtracs before you try it. I would explain it here but I don't want to confuse anyone just learning.

Claret, If you want more info, PM me. I see from your other posts you have been learning vtracs and some of BA's methods.

Reply #95

Claret — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:14:27 GMT

I am trying to understand the vtrac information and I see the 32,7 between the bottom two rows on the 3-4 run. So I am looking for vtracs on the same rows as pair info? Also I see the 4,9 and you did not mention vtrac 5 (4 and 9) located in 874 and 192. I get the 21,6. Thank you. Everytime I read this post, I learn something new. Great info.

Reply #94

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 17:53:17 GMT

Practice, practice,practice. So the saying goes.......

Best way to get familiar with the 3-4 rundown's workings is to backtest about 30 days worth. You'll see it be right on, sometimes lead you in the right direction, and every once awhile miss for the day. but it's really only for that day, sometimes it's just early. Comes the next day.And you'll get to know what that looks like so you can see it.

And you are correct. Together the system's are awesome.

Reply #93

Kbones — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 17:43:31 GMT

OK jayhawk58. No wonder I was totally off on today's drawing so I figured I must not have balanced the number correctly. I keep going back on the pages trying to get it right..... Dang it.... I'm gonna get it right.... It's a must because these two systems in conjunction are awesome. Thank you for answering my questions over the same thing

Kb

Reply #92

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 17:33:11 GMT

Close, but ......no. See post on page 5. 479 becomes 977.

Number that doesn't touch goes first. That's the 9. then the number that comes first between the 4 and 7 on the number line. That's the 7.

1-8-5-2-9-6-3-0-7-4-1

Reply #91

Kbones — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 16:37:55 GMT

Good afternoon all. I was wondering after balancing out the number 479 it becomes 944? Is this correct?

Thanks

Kb

Reply #90

Blackapple — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 15:37:00 GMT

Here's a Tidbit...unique combos

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/275130

Any combination of 114 or 144

Warning of Root sum 1,3 or 5.....digits 1,3 or 5

sometimes using digits 1,3 or 5 for Root sum acquisition

Reply #89

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 15:13:37 GMT

Claret, Here is your answer.

603 becomes 633. Why? They are all together on the number line. 6 is first so it becomes first. 3 is next and the digit that doubles.

Reply #88

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 05:24:43 GMT

Did you get the hits today in OH, Claret??

They were in the 3-4 workout. Have you read Blackapple's thread...27-sum, a hound dog tool.

The way he shows it would have brought a lock for it.

Good luck for tomorrow

Reply #87

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 05:13:37 GMT

Congrats, Claret. Develop the 3-4 rundown and the 27-sum to work its best for you. Do backtests on your state and get very familiar with both.

Study the originators of both these workouts. I didn't develop them. But I have learned to use them efficiently. I've said it before and I'll say again. BOTH are excellent standalone, but together they will lock wins for you.

Here's your Happy Dance

Reply #86

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 05:09:58 GMT

Thank You Blackapple !!!

I have found the 3-4 rundown to be the most important tool I use.

27-sum helps lock down. I t brought a hit in KS today.

I have found that if I'm looking correctly......both vtracs indicated hit more often than not.

I must confess I have found many ways to use the 3-4 rundown. I've developed a way to use the rundown to narrow down the vtracs. I use it to narrow the roots. I use vsums to reduce combinations. Developing the front pair sum theory for straights,... [ More ]

Reply #85

Claret — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 04:02:31 GMT

Thanks for the explanation on the pairs for the 27-1. This workout has been awesome and right now just boxes and two backups this past week. I have

never hit so many days in a week before. Of course, I have played the lottery enough to know you need more than one tool in your arsenal but this is a fun

one. This workout merits its own notebook and I love having to buy new workouts! Thanks to everyone. How do I make the happy dance emoticon

Reply #84

Blackapple — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 00:48:31 GMT

Jayhawk58

Great Job in explanation

__________________________________

Georgia

Mon, Jul 4, 2016 8-5-4 9-7-3

Sun, Jul 3, 2016 3-6-7 8-8-9

_______________________________________________________________________

Mon, Jul 4, 2016 9-7-3

Sun, Jul 3, 2016 8-8-9

Ga. nite

Last night draw for Ga. 7/3 was 889

Becomes 899.

4 8 3 9 4 9 3 8 4 9 3 9

3 2 3 4 4 2 3 4 3 3

5 5 7 8 5 7 7 6

1 3 6 3 5 4

4 9 8 9... [ More ]

Reply #83

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 20:17:58 GMT

For more info, read Blackapple's 27- a Hound Dog tool. And balancing for the BA 3-4 rundown. Excellent resources.

Reply #82

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 20:14:06 GMT

As I mentioned in previous post, I prefer the evening draw for the workout. Last night draw for Ga. was 889

Becomes 899.

4 8 3 9 4 9 3 8 4 9 3 9

3 2 3 4 4 2 3 4 3 3

5 5 7 8 5 7 7 6

1 3 6 3 5 4

4 9 8 9

Don't forget the 9 can sometimes be a 0 because there is no 0's in the 3-4 rundown. Any time a 9 is on the bottom row, I automatically include the 0 in pairs.

Match bottom row digits to second row digits for pairs. 41,43,45,46,91,93,96.85,84,83,81,86,94,95,and then the... [ More ]

Reply #81

Kbones — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:45:39 GMT

OK great I see exactly how the pairs are made from the 27 minus and the 3-4 rundown pairs are made up from the last 2 rows by coming up of with the mirrors of those numbers also. Is this correct? And yes I would love for you to show me the 3-4 rundown that showed the 854 combo and again I want to thank for your time.

Kb

Reply #80

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:11:39 GMT

You are wheeling the digits to each other. You'll recall from the first post, you would actually have three sets. But for simplicity we will use just this one.

854=17=10-65

01,06,05 16,15 56

By this you see each digit is matched to another making the pairs.

BTW. this number is from a day drawing. I usually get better results from an evening draw.

889=25=02-57

367=16=11-66

112=04=23-78

Match the digits to the pairs, This does make a lot of pairs. Remember you are hoping t... [ More ]

Reply #79

Kbones — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 18:36:21 GMT

To be honest I'm not quite sure how to make all of the pairs for the 3-4 rundown either. For 854 I came up with 27 and 67 for the pairs at the end of the rundown. Any assistance with this will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Kb

Reply #78

Kbones — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 17:59:53 GMT

Thank you so much for your response Jayhawk58.

One more thing when using 27-,854 becomes 854=17=10=65. If that is correct then how do you come up with so many pairs

Reply #77

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 17:50:54 GMT

As in the example above,

Digit that does not touch goes first, the 4. then deal with remaining digits. 8 and 5 touch but the eight is first. so becomes 488.

That's the way I interpret it.

Reply #76

Kbones — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 17:40:57 GMT

Good day all. When balancing the number 854, since the 8 comes before the 5 on the number line does 854 convert to 855?

Thanks in advance kb

Reply #75

Claret — Thu, 30 Jun 2016 15:28:49 GMT

Love how you did the chart so the layout of the pairs is so clear how you did it. Can you tell me which draws you used for the 27- so I can follow how you got your pairs that you show on this post. My thought process ell s me to look around the 888 that fell in NM. Thanks again

Reply #74

Claret — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:57:50 GMT

Thank you

Reply #73

Blackapple — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:43:51 GMT

You like to see a number not involved in the number line.. like

159-156-153-157

Then simply 155 is the workout

_________________

826-823-820-827-824-

Then simply 822 is the workout

Reply #72

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:40:37 GMT

Thanks BA !! We can always learn from you.

(My wife is late getting home so I snuck back in the office......

Reply #71

Blackapple — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:35:46 GMT

Number line is thus:1-8-5-2-9-6-3-0-7-4-1

If 952...925..295...259.. 529 or 592 falls

All touch...then its 522...drop the 9

If 025 falls...then its 055..drop the 2

Reply #70

theo1946 — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:34:54 GMT

Thanks BA

Reply #69

Blackapple — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:13:45 GMT

The number 415 falls

You balance it like this

The digit that does not touch goes first...5

Deal with remaining touching digits the way the

line does

1 4 touches on the balance line

Number line is thus:1-8-5-2-9-6-3-0-7-4-1

So in the example Blackapple uses....415 The 4 and 1 are three digits apart.

4 comes to the front of 1...drop the one ...thus 415=544

Reply #68

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:09:01 GMT

Angle counts. 415 is 455 by the way I do it. I'll answer your other questions soon. Gotta get dinner on the table

Reply #67

Claret — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:06:30 GMT

Re-Read your post about the pairs touching . Cleared it up - thanks

Reply #66

Claret — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:02:24 GMT

Thought it was for you because you are the one who is probably pullingy your hair out because of my questions. I have just been following the post and trying to understand. lol Did you see my last post? Does 415 become 155? Does 032 become 322? Thanks! Also when you say pairs touching are you referring to numbers that are next, above, and under? Not at an angle

Reply #65

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:02:10 GMT

Perhaps since Blackapple has seen our posts, he'll comment. I always assumed the one at the beginning was to show continuity.

When I first started using the 3-4, I didn't know there was such a thing as balancing. Didn't show up when I researched it at first. Then I had the wrong line.

I believe the 4 is first. Let's see what the evening number brings. I'm finding if the workout is correct, It most times gives both Mid and Eve.

Theo.......

Dan

Reply #64

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:56:44 GMT

Not sure who this was intended for, Claret or myself. High Praise indeed.

I find that the old hand drawn work outs along my eye get the best results. I use them in conjunction with each other for clarity. The 3-4 rundown, 27-minus the sum, I'm finding Lucky's tools on LP are helpful. I just started using the JoyJoy8 and am learning it's habits. Hope I have it right. Only a few posts describing it.

Thanks for the encouraging words for us all. I know this is your prized work.

Reply #63

Claret — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:51:48 GMT

4 1 3 5 4 5 3 1 4 5 3 5

5 4 8 9 9 4 5 9 8 8

9 3 8 9 4 5 8 7

3 2 8 9 4 6

5 1 4 1

15 53 25 59

12 18 14 16

48 49

took out repeat pairs and those not touching but still not sure about

wheeling yet. I do not understand how to input them into that wheel program. Someone will see this out and let us know if it is correct or not.

I made the 415 155 because the 1 comes before the 4 and doubled the 5. On 032 which fell earlier this week, the 3 came before the 0... [ More ]

Reply #62

Claret — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:31:16 GMT

See what you mean, forgot about the 41 scenario. Then I would keep the 1 and double the 5 - 155 I think. Let me go back and look at that post. Thanks and I will redo.

Reply #61

theo1946 — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:09:03 GMT

According to the balance bar, it seems the 1 comes before the 4. That would mean that your workout number would be 511 not 544. Is this correct? If not please explain.

Reply #60

Claret — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:03:59 GMT

Thanks everyone! Certainly appreciate your patience with me.

Reply #59

Blackapple — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:53:17 GMT

I give it two middays draws if done from the midday..to show

Got chills seeing you master the workout.

I give it two evening draws if done from the evening..to show

But it can crossover draws

...I see you are patience with it.

Reply #58

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:36:17 GMT

YES !!!! Someone sees it !!!!!

That is correct. Blackapple is the originator of the 3-4 rundown. He says the workout can be good for multiple draws. I tend to use only for two. And this is true because the number for the workout for 415 is 544. See how that matches to your workout here. So The 3 or 8 is the key number. And you can see the mirror of it in the workout, 838. I always flip and mirror doubles in the workout.

And the pair is out of the bottom two rows. I tend to use the night dr... [ More ]

Reply #57

Claret — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:56:24 GMT

OH for today midday was 833. Of course everything looks different when the draw appears but I see it more clearly now.

Hummmmm. Is this what you mean when you say the pairs fall in the last two rows? 88 on and 33 on left side and 88 on the right side. Thanks for all your help. Hope I am not being a nuisance. I know it is easier to ask people for numbers but I want to understand the tools. 454 hit Sunday so this was two days later - midday draw.

Also yesterday midday was 908 so that would

Reply #56

Claret — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 05:37:07 GMT

Thank you so much! I noticed that I was only using 455 once and shd be using it twice.

454 to 455 OH Midday Sunday June 26

443545 344535

8 7 8 9 9 7 8 9 8 8

6 6 8 8 6 8 8 7

3 5 7 5 7 6

8 3 3 4

27-

454 = 13 14 69

Today evening in OH was 415

Will keep working with it Thanks again

Reply #55

lakerben — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 04:22:51 GMT

Howdy jayhawk. This still is clear as mud,but I hope you are winning with it.

Reply #54

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 03:04:46 GMT

That number would be 455.

For the 3-4 rundown, the numbers come from pairing up the digits from the last two rows. The pairs come in from the fact that MOST all winning combinations come from there.

So in the example above above the key numbers would be 2 and 7 followed by 8 and 3. These are vtracs indicated.

You don't have to play the vtrac as your digits if you don't want, but I get more hits because I'm covering the digit and the mirror.

in the 27-, doing the same. Any pair that... [ More ]

Reply #53

Claret — Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:41:06 GMT

correction

First 3-4 shd read 453444 instead of 45553444 - sorry

Reply #52

Claret — Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:37:10 GMT

Oh had 454 - would that be 544

023 would be 233 since 03 is not together

I ended up with 87 for 27- and 27 for 3-4 rundown

Where are people getting the pairs.

3-4 27-

45553444 304233 454 =13 14 69

98788 34656 023 5 22 77

8667 7122 908= 17 10 65

534 834

87 27

I take it these are two separate programs but where do the pairs come in

Reply #51

lakerben — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 23:57:31 GMT

nm p3

3 - 4 Rundown Pyramid

4 8 3 8 4 8 3 8 4 8 3 8

3 2 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 2

5 4 5 6 5 6 5 4

9 9 2 2 2 9

9 2 4 2

1-8-5-2-9-6-3-0-7-4-1

Number balance when digits are three digits apart only

27 minus pairs 3-4 pairs

06 16 16 56 66 66 99 29 49

03 13 13 53 63 63 99 29 49

06 16 16 56 66 66 92 22 42

01 11 11 51 61 61 92 22 42

08 18 18 58 68 68 92 22 42

01 11 11 51 61 61 99 29 49

Separate Duplicates

Your

Reply #50

lakerben — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 20:13:54 GMT

I was referring to the ba program from another site.

Yours is nice and you did good. Thanks theo

Reply #49

theo1946 — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 19:45:47 GMT

Guys,

I just can't seem to get the hang of this system. It is to confusing for me . Sorry I couldn't help.

Ted

Reply #48

lakerben — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 03:36:16 GMT

I went by the program he has.

Reply #47

lakerben — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 03:31:02 GMT

You got mail.

Reply #46

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 03:22:35 GMT

Well, pretty close.

MID 868. Right on track with the vtrac indicator of vtrac 4-3,8. Sort of half expected a double due to last nights draw of 069. O indicates double. 866 is in the rundown. Flip to that is 688.

EVE 111. Second vtrack was 2. Did not expect a triple. Should have. Was actually in the pair eliminator pyramid. Too coincidental I guess.

Reply #45

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 01:30:27 GMT

Lakerben, you didn't balance the number. Last digit drops, middle digit doubles.

Reply #44

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 01:28:50 GMT

vtrac list: vtrac 1=0,5 Most rundowns indicate 2 vtracs

vtrac 2=1,6

vtrac 3=2,7

vtrac 4=3,8

vtrac 5=4,9

Starting with June 10 KS draws

June 10 616=13=14 69 vtrac indicated by 3-4 rundown 5 which is 4,9 MID-667

394=16=11 66 1 which is 0,5 EVE-442 HIT

857=20=07 52

June 11 442=10=17 62 vtrac indicated by 3-4 rundown 1 which is 0,5 MID-575 Possible hit

667=19=08 53 2 which is 1,6 EVE-129 HIT

616=13=14 69

June 12 129=12=15 69 vtrac indicated by 3... [ More ]

Reply #43

lakerben — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 19:02:13 GMT

I got

493748

43123

7435

278

96

394738

34212

7633

496

46

Reply #42

lakerben — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:16:32 GMT

Correct.

Reply #41

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:08:33 GMT

I'll post on this in the afternoon. I see your point. My main point is if looking for two solid programs to support each other, to get a solid confirmation, these work very well together.

They are separate methods. They produce more pairs than most want to work with. The way I use your 27- makes more pairs than you usually use. But together they provide a virtual lock for a hit. When there is a match of pairs. Other states may not hit the same. But in KS..........

Reply #40

lakerben — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 15:38:35 GMT

Theo built a nice program. I normally dont use vtracs so the whole thing makes no sense to me at all. Where does the vtracs track pair/match with the 3,4 and 27 minus? I see the combos but are they after the fact of mixing the vtrcs,3,4 or what?

Where is the vtrac list that shows which vtrac is which? Vtrac 2,3,4 what does that mean to the novice or beginner? A detailed list would clear this up and make it easy to see if it works for each members state.

A list of the past 10 draw wou... [ More ]

Reply #39

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 15:16:20 GMT

Getting it now?

Blackapple doesn't use vtracs in his explanation. Some people don't like or understand vtracs. I do. I can see that by using vtracs, I am covering both sides of key numbers that mirror. You can choose to pick a digit if you wish.

Reply #38

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 15:05:40 GMT

There is a lot of information in each of these posts. Read slowly and carefully. Read multiple times. Do the workouts. If you play these workouts on dates the pairs match only, you will come out ahead.

For instance in the prev post there were 28 combos left after eliminations. That a few more than most times. But even so. 28 times 14=392 dollars. Box pays 80.00 in KS. Wins.....960 dollars. Play straight using your knowledge and skill......do the math.

Reply #37

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:58:23 GMT

Todays workout for both 27- and 3-4 rundown.

We are balancing the number today as we have a 3 digit variance in last draw, 069. 0 stays in front.

Consult number line......1 8 5 2 9 6 3 0 7 4 1

9 is before the 6 so number is 099. On with workout.

069=15=12 67 4 0 3 9 4 9 3 0 4 9 3 9

918=18=09 54 4 3 3 4 4 3 4 4 3 3

915=15=12 67 7 6 7 8 7 8 7 6

4 4 6 6 6 4

8 1 3 1

Pairs for 27- pairs for 3-4

01 12 24 45 56 66 77 13 36 68

02 14 25 46 57 67 79 16 38 48

Reply #36

theo1946 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 19:58:09 GMT

Reply #35

theo1946 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 19:57:44 GMT

Reply #34

lakerben — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:37:01 GMT

Reply #33

theo1946 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:35:32 GMT

Okay, I think I got some of it, but I will probably be asking more questions.

The way the spreadsheet is right now needs the player to do some pen and paper work. It probably end up that way, hopefully not to much.

Jay, When I get a rough copy I will send it to you to pick apart.

With the exception of a few, please be patient. Myself and others are trying to make this work.

Reply #32

lakerben — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:42:41 GMT

Jay I think you have a great idea but bits and pieces here and there has left people hanging. I'm busy and I know you are but there may be days between discussion of this and people may lose interest in a great idea. Maybe a everyday total explanation with examples and/or a program.

Reply #31

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:39:56 GMT

I hope I am answering his questions as best as I can. Sorry for no responses over weekend. I have a big family and this weekend was all about that. My best time for being on and doing things is early and late in the day. If I'm lucky.

Reply #30

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:36:25 GMT

I'm all for a program just to make it faster. Does take time to do by hand. Best experience is doing an entire month in backtest and get very familiar with it. You will learn the nuances and how to read it. When to play, when to really play (double up or more) and when to ......watch.

Don't forget to match the 27 minus to it.

And as with all systems/methods. Backtest and paper play it for a bit. What works in one state DOES NOT always work for another.

Reply #29

lakerben — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:36:14 GMT

Can you work with theo and get a program that works with the entire progrm including the 3,4 vtrac and the final result?, picks.

Reply #28

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:30:44 GMT

The post Blackapple made is pretty clear about this, but I'll try to explain it.

When doing the 3-4 rundown, you are using previous draw combo. I prefer evening because the rundown will usually give at least one of the combo's for the next two draws, if not both of them. I don't see that as much with using a mid draw.

If there is not a difference of 3 between 2 digits in the combo, you simply drop the last digit and double the second. Example,: 978

No difference so becomes 977.... [ More ]

Reply #27

lakerben — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:22:02 GMT

Thus the need for a program. To save time and backtest this needs to either have someone show more examples or have a program. Vtrac are fine but I don't know.

Reply #26

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:16:18 GMT

Another note on this, trying not to confuse.....

Sometimes the combo is RIGHT there. Example.....the 457 and 954 are aligned in the workout. This happens. If you see it.........double up, triple up time

Reply #25

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:13:04 GMT

Yes, the bottom two rows hold all the good stuff.

I will put the workout for 6/17 here again just for demo purposes.

978 becomes 977. Theo, you are correct on the number balancing. There is no difference of 3 so you use the 978, drop last digit and double the second.......977.

4 9 3 7 4 7 3 9 4 7 3 7

4 3 1 2 2 3 4 2 1 1

7 4 3 4 7 6 3 2

2 7 7 4 9 5

95 4 5

Now the bottom row of digits indicates the vtrac. We have a 4,9.............indicates vtrac 5. We also have a 5. T... [ More ]

Reply #24

theo1946 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:42:19 GMT

This is a hard one for me. Correct me if I'm wrong, I am assuming that in the 3-4 rundown you are using the last digit as the vtrac number, also the pairs for the 3-4 rundown are coming from the bottom 2 rows of the pyramid.

Next,( the number drawn), if the digits are less than 3 from each other we use those digits according to BA's number line.

To some of you readers, these are all questions not the way it works

Reply #23

rguayabo2 — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:38:04 GMT

someone managed to put this in an Excel file?

Excel teachers, with all due respect it would be good to put him in an Excel ...

Reply #22

Wentworth — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 21:35:51 GMT

Read my leeps too!y!ou tell us how important it is to balance numbers..can ANYBODY out there tell us how we do this?? Ive asked several times...only silence

is there anyone out there who can explain what Blackapple means by NUMBER LINES?? and BALANCING THE NUMBERS?somebody must know but nobodies talkin...

Reply #21

lakerben — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 13:46:59 GMT

Are you putting the numbers like this:

238 sum 13

27-= 14

mirror 69.

Now are you putting the 69 in the 3,4 blackapple program? If so can you show this and how it I'd associated with vtracs.

Reply #20

Wentworth — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 10:50:46 GMT

Me neither i need to know what balancing numbers means..ive got a lot figured out but im trying to fgure out number lines blackapple makes no mention of v tracs on his post i do not understand them i dont know why you put them in your post. Also i notice when i take yesterdays number and do that 34 rundown no doubling ect i get a lot of pairs and 3 numbers very often....yes can you please show the balance and number line ideas? think thats the key that blackappl shows but again he speaks a forei... [ More ]

Reply #19

lakerben — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:48:15 GMT

I wasted too much time responding to blogs. Never again !

You are doing your best but I'm not up to speed on what you are doing.

Maybe a step by step with the process, that may work.

Reply #18

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:19:27 GMT

Awesome. It would make it faster. Not sure how to automate the process of balancing the number. Matching digits for pairs and combos doesn't seem as if it would be too bad.

BTW, all that make sense? I worry about explaining clearly enough.

Reply #17

lakerben — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:14:04 GMT

Theos working on a program.

Reply #16

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:06:09 GMT

Took me a long time to get the hang of it. But it is worth it. Practice, practice, practice. Spend the time to do a back test for your state for an entire 30 days. Get really familiar with it.

Read the post about the number line carefully. Copy and paste it in a document and eliminate the colors and the different fonts.

Read it again. It will make sense. If in doubt, remember 3 digits. 4,1 1,4 4,7 7,4 8.5 5.8 Just an example, there are others. In fact....9,2 2,9. Why? 9,0,1,2....

Copy,... [ More ]

Reply #15

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 03:49:46 GMT

KS draw date 6/17

27 minus the sum 978 24=sum 03 58 3-4 rundown 978 becomes 977 4 9 3 7 4 7 3 9 4 7 3 7

927 18=sum 09 54 4 3 1 2 2 3 4 2 1 1

184 13=sum 14 69 7 4 3 4 7 6 3 2

2 7 7 4 9 5

9 5 4 5

vtrack indicated: 5 is digits 4,9

1 is digits 0,5 Why? There is no 0 in rundown. 9 can be it.

pairs: 03 13 39 49 55 68 89 pairs: 92 52 44 02

04 14 34 48 56 69 97 57 47 07

05 19 38 45 58 95 54 42 05

06 18 59 94 55 04

08 15 35 46 99 09

09 16 36 00

Reply #14

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 03:23:11 GMT

I am sorry. I was using my tablet (computer is shared in our house).

In making the pairs just matching digits with each other in each sequence. 27 minus with its digits. 3-4 rundown with its.

Eliminate the duplicates and only use the matches.

Match those pairs to the digits in the workout to make combo's.

I will post today's workout so you can see again.

Reply #13

theo1946 — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 17:06:51 GMT

In this section and previous section I don't understand how you are getting the numbers.

The reason I'm asking is that I'm trying to do a spreadsheet.

Reply #12

theo1946 — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 17:03:12 GMT

Have a typo, should be 917=17 10 65

Reply #11

Wentworth — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:19:16 GMT

Balancing the numbers? THis looks very good just trying to make sense of it....

Reply #10

Wentworth — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:52:03 GMT

I have a real hard time understanding black apple...i understand a little of th 34 rundown..but what does he mean by number line???? i will appreciate if you can clarify that for me. Hes a good man but he dosent speak english..ive tried asking him before but his answers are too confusing...thanks...

Reply #9

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 02:50:14 GMT

Now you may have noticed the day number plainly in the 3-4 rundown. I have learned to make pairs off the bottom two rows.

I have had success wheeling the digits off bottom two rows. Then matching to what shows in the total workout. Keeping the vtrac as the key digits. That would have gotten both these draws.Wheel it straight. Lots more combo though.

One thing to always consider is repeat digits for weight in combo selection. Previous draw had a 4. Not common it goes a third time but does h... [ More ]

Reply #8

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 02:38:32 GMT

The idea is to get matching pairs. I will list the pairs left after filtering.

27 minus: 32,35 3-4: 67,17

30,26 62

36,27 27

37,67 29

I have learned that the matches hold the most promise. So, we are left with 26,27,67. I match with digits in the rundown or the 27 minus.

27 minus:261, 260, 267, 268, 263, 265, 271, 278, 273, 270, 278, 275, 671, 678, 673, 670, 675

3-4 rundown: 672,678,671,679,628,627,624,621,629, 278, 274,271, 279

Eliminate duplicates.

Now as you can s... [ More ]

Reply #7

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 02:06:56 GMT

Pairs:

27 minus the sum 18 38 80 02 26 3-4 rundown 68 28 17

13 32 82 06 28 67 27 19

12 30 86 08 27 64 24 11

10 36 83 07 25 62 21 14

16 37 87 05 61 21 17

17 35 85 69 22 18

15

On the 3-4 rundown, use only the digits in the bottom two rows to make a pair. Probably not how you envisioned this working but it does. Next step, run the pairs through a filter. I use a pyramid by Only Money. Seems strange but it works for me here in KS. Not familiar enough with NM so will use... [ More ]

Reply #6

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 01:40:32 GMT

I'll give it a try. First off the number you gave is actually a day draw. In my experience the 3-4 works best off an evening draw. Sets the tone for the day. So lets back up a bit to get there.

NM 045 was the draw.

045 09=sum 18 63 4 0 3 4 4 4 3 0 4 4 3 4

509 14=sum 13 68 4 3 7 8 8 3 4 8 7 7

917 17=sum 20 75 7 1 6 7 7 3 6 5

8 7 4 1 9 2

6 2 1 2

So you can see the workout for 27 minus the sum and the 3-4. The 3-4 shows vtrac 2 1,6 and vtrac 3 2,7. I would consider... [ More ]

Reply #5

lakerben — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:20:48 GMT

Nm 794

Show an example.

Reply #4

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:18:48 GMT

I am finding this system very useful for pairs. Specifically in narrowing down the pair in conjunction with the 3-4 rundown.

They complement each other well.

As far as putting the 3-4 rundown in excel, it has never been done as far as I can find. I am NOT the guy for it. I just do it by hand and get AMAZING results.

Reply #3

lakerben — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 02:06:17 GMT