The problem with systems

Reply #107

Soledad — Thu, 13 Sep 2018 23:19:39 GMT

346 prestest on the 5th, 346 regular drawing on the 11th.

I agree. I would have a ball trying to figure that out.

Reply #106

Coin Toss — Thu, 13 Sep 2018 00:44:04 GMT

Stiffs and strokers.....

Stiffs are players who never toke (tip).

Strokers are players who intentionally make themselves a pain in the arse by seeing how much they can get a dealer to do for the littlest amount of money. example, instead of throwing in $4 at once on a dice game they'll throw them in one at at a time to bet all the hardways. This slo9ws the game down. The pit picks up on this and gives the stick the windshield wipers signal so the striker can't get their bets in.

Strok... [ More ]

Reply #105

Stack47 — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:30:53 GMT

I didn't want to go too far off topic by going in depth of things I saw and things I heard. If you stay at any table game long enough you'll have a break dealer , but I was talking about another dealer; one that sort of appears in the pit and is directed over to the table getting the hot hands. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but you have to admit watching a player come to the table, place a minimum bet on third base, and hit hard 17 to the dealer's 5 is suspicious.

Because of the amount of p... [ More ]

Reply #104

Tucker Black — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 19:02:28 GMT

The dealers change so they can go on break. They don't stand there and deal cards for 8 hours in a row.

If anyone, new player or not, regardless of chair, hit 17 when the upcard is a 5 (or anything for that matter), that person is not a skilled blackjack player.

I've seen people double down on 12, split 10's, split 5's, refuse to double 11, etc. None of them are casino plants who know what the next card is. That's ridiculous. They are simply unskilled players, and they're very co... [ More ]

Reply #103

BobP — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 07:20:16 GMT

If you apply the Birthday Paradox to the Pick-3 box field it certainly makes sense not to exclude test draw numbers.

BobP

Reply #102

Stack47 — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 05:10:12 GMT

We're talking about things that are done by dealers in casinos and lottery pre-drawing tests disrupting game flows not cheating players. For instance changing dealers changes the order. Ever see a new player sit on third base and hit 17 to the dealers 5?

The Texas Lottery has a minimum four pre-test drawings for all their pick-3 and pick-4 games and publishes the results after the drawings. It's not about the pre-tests effecting the official drawing , but the fact there is an 80% chance if th... [ More ]

Reply #101

Stack47 — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 04:40:00 GMT

I've experienced dealers that for no particular reason dislike a player or players and are down right rude. Others believe part of their job is telling players how they should bet. Saw a Four Card Poker dealer turn over and check the cards when players mucked their hands. It's understandable to make sure there were five cards, but absolutely no reason to look at the cards placing them in order high to low. It was more of an annoyance and a waste of time than trying to disrupt the flow of the gam... [ More ]

Reply #100

Coin Toss — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 04:17:04 GMT

Tucker Black,

Good point.

Inb one joint we had a floorman who grew up in New Mexico. The floorman was definitely gringo, Anglo and this one 21 Hispanic dealer had a few Hispanic player she would tell what her hole card was.

So they put the guy from New Mexico on her game and she got arrested.

Reply #99

Soledad — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 03:56:10 GMT

I find it interesting how many of the same numbers show up so frequently with all of the Texas draws. Pretest and regular. Also 222 July (Pretest), 333 August (Regular) 000 August (Regular) 555 August (Pretest) 999 August (Pretest) What are the chances of that?

I m not sure I understand your reasoning for not playing numbers that show in pretests. That s limited thinking, and a problem that most lottery players make. They think because they see something they won t see it again, but they do,

Reply #98

Tucker Black — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 03:36:36 GMT

Dealers don't cheat on behalf of the casino. They have no incentive to do so. It would be like a bank teller depositing 75 cents less in your bank account and hoping you don't notice, so that the bank can make a tiny tiny bit more money. That doesn't happen.

Dealers who cheat are doing it in collusion with a player to win money by cheating. The player splits the profits with the dealer elsewhere afterwards.

Reply #97

Coin Toss — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 00:05:44 GMT

edessa,

A lot of beefs occur because a player, often a tourist, thinks they know a lot more than they do.

One of the best I ever saw (this of course when gambling was limited to Nevada) was when a player tried to make a non existent bet which of course wasn't accepted.

The player gets hot under the collar, tells the pit boss, That's the way we play back home. The pit boss says, You're not from Nevada, it's illegal for you to play back home. The whole table cracked up.

Then you hav... [ More ]

Reply #96

eddessaknight — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 23:37:40 GMT

Thank you Stack47 for sharing actual game provider's cheating manipulation experiences.

Changing dealers changing dice or stick man interfering with dice mid air,single deck Black Jack dealers playing second or bottom card. There is an amazing arsenal of 'tricks of the trade', so to speak, that most innocent game players are totally unaware of and more.

Even @ Keno, was having a good run when on the following game only 19 numbers were shown on the board. However #15 did fall so Yes it was... [ More ]

Reply #95

Instyle — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:47:16 GMT

good advice! Thanks for reminding me of true basics. I analyze historical data and tweak it to my system ( cash 4) It s funny, when you find a system, play on paper or on prediction screen, you win more often. When u stop playing and start reviewing the data; that s how it goes; small wins but more frequent. Thanks again

Reply #94

BobP — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:07:48 GMT

What it really comes down to, is to play you have to put numbers on play slips and those numbers have to come from somewhere. Sure it's easy to say Quick Picks are just as good as any system, until you pay, look and groan.

The thing with systems, is the good ones give some hope that this time it's going to work. Like all good snake oil the projected results look promising. It feels better to work with the numbers and there is absolutely no proof your numbers are not going to win. There is... [ More ]

Reply #93

Soledad — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:39:02 GMT

I would say yes. Until you see that it doesn t.

Reply #92

Soledad — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:34:44 GMT

Ok yeah Barry Horowitz was a wrestler..

look I ve yet to see many here on this website use a system, save sure at least a couple, that use a system whatever it may be a wheel a pool a tier a whatever, that does not put up at least 50 numbers up and say the winner is in here. Sure yeah use your own and match ok keep it simple yeah, but seriously only a couple here really put a few numbers up, less than 10 max, and say the winner is here and are right. The problem is the number of numbers you a... [ More ]

Reply #91

eddessaknight — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:53:48 GMT

Do appreciate the kind professional validation, Coin Toss

Unseen forces in casinos as in all life's games, that we don't know, affect us much more than what we do know.....

OK - Here's one from Joe E. Lewis:

I have been on such a losing streak, that if I had been around, I would have taken General Custer and given points .

~Joe E. Lewis, comedian, actor singer

'America's 9/11' We Will Not Forget......

Eddessa_Knight with Light

Reply #90

GuesssWork — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:43:17 GMT

The truth is that luck has a say so in the outcome of and nailing down these random events that we think we can predict .. when will this stop us from trying to find th golden system to win though??... Most here have ways be it complex simple or somewhere in the middle.. they are all different ways that come from complex thinkers simple thinkers or somewhere inbetween..To each his own there is no right or wrong way/s even when loosing, until the individual realizes that and concedes defeat.. lol... [ More ]

Reply #89

Soledad — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:02:35 GMT

It is interesting. I believe what you say first off amber about winning more before. I never really looked at the results that Texas gives. First off they have 8 drawings per day. So the way I do things that leaves 1 drawing left out. Or do I leave it out and instead use 8. Go day by day. Each day. In NY that would be over 3 days total. But using the predraws together with the regular, which would be my first try, just to see if I should in the first place etc. Well, from the first 3 days of the... [ More ]

Reply #88

GuesssWork — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 08:44:22 GMT

Seeing is believing or really is it that believing is seeing? Having a little faith in things and people that others can't, is no crime in my book, it really depends on where we stand in the cosmos and thus what we stand for - doesn't it.

We exist in both a physical and spiritual world, invisible forces, that we don't know or see affect us much more than what we do know...Just think about all those invisible AM/FM radio waves, micro waves, high frequency TV ultra high frequencies etc that con... [ More ]

Reply #87

BobP — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 08:13:06 GMT

Here in Florida it is amazing what important people in politics will risk for bribes that most lotto players would consider a typical Pick-3/4 win. We have city (in Florida we have only cities every hamlet is a city) mayors and commissioners going to jail for taking bribes a fraction of their public trough income.

BobP

Reply #86

Stack47 — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 04:31:59 GMT

I experienced bosses changing Blackjack dealers when for whatever reason a dealer is dealing too many winning hands. But when this happens, I walk if I see anything out of the ordinary and I never color. The thing is, I'm not a high roller and I really doubt they use that type of strategy on those players in Blackjack, Craps, or Roulette; not if they want their play.

What happens when the casinos using pro card mechanics gets caught by the gaming commission? Is it really worth losing their g... [ More ]

Reply #85

Stack47 — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 04:21:38 GMT

I read a conspiracy theory suggesting a state lottery has 1000 tapes showing all 1000 possible pick-3 drawings. The idea being the lottery could choose the outcome based on play. They decided when to have huge payoff (triples) or a tiny payoff. The problem with their theory was the state lottery they used averaged about a 50% payout every year, which defeats any logical reason to cheat.

It's bad enough seeing the pick-3 number you played drawn in one of the four pre-drawing test, but can you... [ More ]

Reply #84

Big Joey — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 02:14:13 GMT

I have questions if anyone can Answer? Can a game mirror a game with the same amount of numbers in another state? For example Louisiana Lotto has 40 balls Bank A Million in Virginia has 40 balls. Easy 5 is the same 37 balls as Roadrunner Cash in New Mexico, Cash 5 in Texas. Can Virginia Bank A Million be used to predict Louisiana Lotto? Etc....

Reply #83

rcbbuckeye — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 01:28:39 GMT

Yeah, Bobby. Thursday I saw 3's popping up in the Daily 4 game, and I thought, gee, I think I'll take advantage of those 3's and play quads.

Result on Friday? One....ONE, 3 played the entire day. LOL.

Tomorrow morning, I'm playing the morning draw. One QP for a buck.

Sometimes, I just gotta let go and hope Luck is a lady.

Reply #82

bobby623 — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 00:18:10 GMT

IMHO

Lotteries instituted pre-tests to disrupt trends, not patterns.

Therefore, players who have a means to detect and track trends should have an advantage.

The lottery can run as many pre-tests as they want, but they can't do anything about short-term trends until after smart self pick gamblers have already won their prizes.

It sure would be worthwhile if everyone complaining about pre-testing would divert some of that energy into finding ways to identify useful trends.

Unless s... [ More ]

Reply #81

eddessaknight — Sun, 09 Sep 2018 23:27:23 GMT

Respectfully, amber124, et al - as you know the constitution protects everyone's right and wrong opinion LoL

Personally, I challenge no one's right to believe or not and subscribe to the Protestant inspired ethic of separation of church and state.

As far as the much admired Hadron Cololider's take on particle theory coming in and out of existence, by itself, doesn't negate the possible outside origins including extraterrestrial (the god gene being one). Just because we can't see it or beli... [ More ]

Reply #80

Soledad — Sun, 09 Sep 2018 23:22:44 GMT

People still win $100,000 on win4 games. The proof is in the signs in the stores. I ve seen them. That s betting.

Reply #79

Coin Toss — Sun, 09 Sep 2018 17:54:00 GMT

edessaknight,

You're right about the 'stoppers' and the roulette dealers. There are other things to.........not sure if it would be ok now but when the Barbary 'Roast' opened it was common for the floor to kick the 21 dealers as a signal to shuffle. Also when someone was rolling a monster o0n a crap table the stick was told to go 'windshield wipers' with the dice.

One downtown casino that allowed non pit employees to play had a bartender that was so unlucky when a shooter was on a roll the... [ More ]

Reply #78

Lucky Loser — Sun, 09 Sep 2018 16:50:01 GMT

It sure looks like they are saying the past unofficial pre-drawings tests has an effect on the next official drawing.

Bingo. Let's go even farther. If we remove the term 'official results' from the draws in question, there's absolutely nothing making them any different from the several 'unofficial draws' they conduct except the wording. For those players claiming that these draws have no impact on the directly consequent 'official draw' then, they should cease from looking at the past 'offici... [ More ]

Reply #77

amber124 — Sun, 09 Sep 2018 03:46:33 GMT

Thank you and you make very great points. You seem like a very inspired person that has learned well from the inspiration.

However, when I got down to the very bottom of your post it said that nothing can come from nothing, I don't believe that whatsoever. Years ago scientist found particles coming into existence for a very short period of time, I mean really really short. Of time in the Hadron Collider. Those particles were not present before the experiment or when the experiment began. Show... [ More ]

Reply #76

eddessaknight — Sun, 09 Sep 2018 03:15:52 GMT

My 25 years experience @ gambling ground zero compel make me inclined to agree with amber124. With my 2 1/2 penny's worth.

There is much interference with the natural flow of number output with casno games, even on purely lucky streaks; in BlackJack many casinos have a pro card mechanic, who's hand is faster than the eye, is designated as a stopper and is brought in specifically to halt the advantage or lucky winning card player. It's all denied, of course, it would take a court subpoena or t... [ More ]

Reply #75

Big Joey — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 22:59:07 GMT

The Texas pre-drawing test helps determine the numbers to play in the days that follow using multidraw. If 3 or 4 of your numbers are drawn in a pre-drawing test, do not play them using multidraw for at least a month later.

Reply #74

Stack47 — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 22:49:50 GMT

The only thing you can do with a game is calculate the expected value. This is the amount you will win, on average. Past drawings have no effect on future results.

I must have missed where someone said past drawings have an effect on future drawings with the exception of the Texas Lottery. They conduct pre-drawing test and the results determine whether or not it's necessary to use a different ball set. It sure looks like they are saying the past unofficial pre-drawings tests has an effect on... [ More ]

Reply #73

Lucky Loser — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 20:26:15 GMT

With respect to your opinion, I'd like you to strongly consider something. Every one of the games you list above are derived from numeric systems which is resultant of mathematics. All odds, probabilities, and chances are stringently based on mathematics. The problem, though, is that with more numbers entered into a given game, the chances of winning become harder and harder and the player is forced to just 'take a shot' and hope for the best. This is true with games such as roulette, keno, and... [ More ]

Reply #72

grwurston — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 04:29:50 GMT

This is all you need to know.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/125508

Reply #71

amber124 — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 03:27:47 GMT

I don't agree, if they left the machines alone and stop messing with them I would probably be in the black. There are Trends and patterns are formed whether you like it or not so don't say it's a fact.

75% of the time, or about 70% of the time 75% one or two numbers will repeat from the previous draw, that's a fact not an opinion. There are many more little things like that that occur when a pattern is developed over 7 to 10 draws. Then that pattern changes and that's where the hard part begi... [ More ]

Reply #70

bobby623 — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 02:51:49 GMT

Tucker Black

What you say about math and luck is probably true, but there are exceptions.

If you create and use a system that tracks 'trends.' in lieu of math, you see a lottery game in a different light.

Yes, it's still random, but, it's amazing what you can find when you use random as a sort of prediction tool.

I have tracking schemes that do just that.

All I have to do is evaluate the short term trends and make correct choices = no math required.

A shame that so many lottery... [ More ]

Reply #69

Tucker Black — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 01:55:03 GMT

It's not an opinion, it's a fact. You win by blind luck.

Math is used to win (or lose less) at video poker, blackjack, any game that requires skill. The lottery, keno, roulette, and slot machines are all games where there is no skill, only blind luck.

That is not to say that those are bad games. I like playing those games as well. But the games that require skill have a higher payback percentage.

You won $5,000 (assuming this was a lottery game?) based on luck, not a system.... [ More ]

Reply #68

Soledad — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 01:17:33 GMT

My Mom says the same thing. She just can t understand it. She says exactly the same thing you say. And that s fine you know. One opinion doesn t rule over all. Just pundits. Even though I tell her and show her I won $5,000 based on a system. To each their own that s all. I disagree with you wholeheartedly by the way. Unless you are talking about every single game. Then that would go back to my other point. There are many who have used math to win games.

Reply #67

Tucker Black — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 00:52:47 GMT

The problem with systems is that they are worthless. Each drawing is an independent random event, consisting of drawing some ping pong balls at random from a hopper.

The only thing you can do with a game is calculate the expected value. This is the amount you will win, on average. Past drawings have no effect on future results.

The sooner you realize that, the more time you will save trying to predict the unpredictable.

Reply #66

Soledad — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 00:20:18 GMT

For me it s just the simple fact of proving most people in my life wrong about all they said or thought about me. Simple. I m not arguing with psychologists. I m just reiterating. Maybe not you, perhaps I m being general, but you are not everybody on the single planet who puts down one or two dollar bills.

Reply #65

rcbbuckeye — Fri, 07 Sep 2018 23:50:14 GMT

I don't know....about all that.

I do know I have no fear of losing. If I did, I sure wouldn't be dropping the change I'm dropping.

I also don't have a thrill of winning. Oh, I would be happy if I won a jackpot. But, I think about it a lot. To be able to retire, buy a place in the hill country. That's why I'm in every draw. The what if factor. People that win jackpots don't expect to win.

I understand playing P3 and P4. Heck, I play P4 myself. But, the way Tx has their daily games set up... [ More ]

Reply #64

Soledad — Fri, 07 Sep 2018 22:55:36 GMT

Thrills don t pay the bills

exactly my friend. Now we are delving deeper into our minds which perhaps we need to do. The fear of losing perhaps is more powerful than the thrill of winning. Is it the thrill of winning or the fact that we have lost which keeps us in this frame of mind. But outside looking in is a little different when you re in, lol. Just saying is all. It s nice to be honest at least.

Reply #63

Lucky Loser — Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:39:42 GMT

I wholly agree with Raven62's sentiment about the thrill of winning, especially if one is capable of doing it reasonably consistent where they remain in the green even if it means a smaller profit. However, at some point, it becomes very clear that the thrills don't pay any bills. Yes, it's very exciting to realize the potential of winning money and factoring in one's profit spread when working out Pick 3/4. The excitement is derived directly from knowing that it can be done AGAIN which makes it... [ More ]

Reply #62

Raven62 — Wed, 05 Sep 2018 12:02:57 GMT

Its not about winning its about the thrill of the possibility of winning.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mating-game/201612/the-psychology-why-we-play-lotto

Reply #61

Stack47 — Wed, 05 Sep 2018 07:41:05 GMT

Each state lottery has their own method of determining random pick-3 drawings, but the one common denominator is the probability out of ever 1000 tickets sold, 1 ticket will win. A few years ago, PA was averaging $1 million wagered on every pick-3 drawing which means players were splitting on average $500,000 every drawing.

you have no better chance than someone who spends the same amount of money buying quick picks.

QPs also have the same chance of being drawn during a test which IMO i... [ More ]

Reply #60

bobby623 — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 11:44:29 GMT

Amber

You aren't the only one who had their winning streak cut short by the lottery folks.

Back in the day, so to speak, there were many daily game winners, including myself.

Face it, the lotteries exist to make money and they are doing everything in their power to make consistent winning as difficult as possible.

The drawing mechanisms being used today are formidable, as compared to years ago when most lotteries weren't very smart, and players had many advantages.

I sometimes won... [ More ]

Reply #59

Soledad — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 05:14:42 GMT

Here s a system. Pick 1 number and play only that number for the whole month. 30 days. If it hits you win. Maybe even get a repeat. In FL this year, numbers with 71,73,13 pairs seem to be hitting a lot. I don t know, maybe rambling a little.

But if your hope is to match the 5 white balls with the one red ball, well I wish you the best.

Reply #58

rundown99 — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 03:49:23 GMT

The truth is that the lottery is completely random, and it is only by pure luck that people win the jackpot. Even if you spend hours and hundreds of dollars on lottery tickets using systems, you have no better chance than someone who spends the same amount of money buying quick picks.

Reply #57

amber124 — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 00:12:04 GMT

In all seriousness, the bottom line is the evidence in my own experiences within the last 20 years or so.

And it's a very simple conclusion in my case, I don't believe it's a coincidence that before the second drawing, midday drawing, here in Florida started, I was profiting from the Pick 3 Lottery on a regular basis, at worst I was evening out. Something happened once they introduced that second drawing that immediately changed the game's Dynamic for the worse.

I'm presuming that once tha... [ More ]

Reply #56

amber124 — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 00:02:58 GMT

Okay, but first you have to wait about 15 years before we can start that process because that's how long it takes to become a successful doctor, pay off my school debts, and allow me to pay you the million dollars at the end of the month.

Reply #55

amber124 — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 00:00:50 GMT

Well since apples and oranges are both fruits, I guess we agree LOL

Reply #54

grwurston — Mon, 03 Sep 2018 17:17:51 GMT

Just give me a penny and double it every day for 4 weeks and we'll be good. LOL

Reply #53

bobby623 — Mon, 03 Sep 2018 14:58:42 GMT

Amber

I think comparing lottery and casino games is like comparing apples to oranges.

If there is a connection, I'm afraid I'm not smart enough to see and use it to choose winning lottery numbers.

Yes, if I were a casino gambler, I'd question the need for seven practice spins, but, that doesn't happen in the real world.

Roulette stands alone. It has it's own rules, procedures and outcomes.

Folks who know the game usually win more often than a newbie in Vegas for the weekend.

Lo... [ More ]

Reply #52

amber124 — Mon, 03 Sep 2018 06:21:04 GMT

I take Mondays and Tuesdays off, tomorrow I have to run some errands but before I drive off in my car, I'm going to start and stop the engine seven times to make sure the starter is working. I'm hoping everybody out there in the universe who's reading this do the same thing. I'm doing this because I have to make sure there was no tampering with my starter.

And if by some chance it was tampered with, I will have the car towed to a shop and have the starter replaced. Unless I have a lot of reso... [ More ]

Reply #51

amber124 — Mon, 03 Sep 2018 06:02:32 GMT

I also forgot to add that, not only did they spin the roulette wheel to test it up to seven times in a row before the actual.official draw, but also switched roulette tables around three different sets of roulette tables, each set containing I think three wheel sets are not sure but it's just nuts LOL you would be in favor of the casino having mobile roulette tables on Wheels being switched around in the back room? Wow just wow LOL

Reply #50

amber124 — Mon, 03 Sep 2018 06:00:42 GMT

Oh boy you got me good! LOL

Okay how about $1 a year for a million years? Deal

Reply #49

amber124 — Mon, 03 Sep 2018 05:57:52 GMT

Using that logic, would you have no problem if a casino spun the roulette wheel up to seven times before the actual official spin

Reply #48

pcurtis — Sun, 02 Sep 2018 18:45:09 GMT

Reply #47

amber124 — Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:04:10 GMT

Thanks, yes I saw that, but there was another longer video documentary which I was hoping somebody out there would have taken one section out of that documentary which is about maybe 2 to 4 minutes long. That video gave a much broader view of the subject.

Reply #46

BobP — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 06:36:25 GMT

Try Cargo Cult

BobP

Reply #45

grwurston — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 01:50:31 GMT

It was 100% all original. As they say, You heard it here first.

Now what kind of payment plan did you have in mind

Reply #44

amber124 — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 01:06:00 GMT

I have to clean this one up a little bit because it's a family website.

But I heard some things said from a friend of mine a few weeks ago that made me fall to the ground almost..lol

I asked him how he was doing, and he replied by saying, same snip different pile LOL ...never heard that term before, with that ending.

Reply #43

amber124 — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 01:01:53 GMT

Well thanks for coming forward, I really wanted to know who it was LOL

Did you make that up yourself or repeat it from what you heard or read? Cuz if you made that up yourself, you deserve a million dollars prize LOL

Reply #42

amber124 — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 01:00:38 GMT

I wouldn't say every, but I would say most do. How do you figure?

The Bible is plagiarized. Stories almost exactly to the detail have been shown in past religious ideologies. Rising from the dead 3 days later etc etc etc. I think you need to brush up on your history a little bit LOL.

There's a video about how primitive tribe on a remote island built a biplane or whatever kind of playing I forget, food down on to them periodically to help them survive. So they thought it was a God in the sk... [ More ]

Reply #41

grwurston — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 00:57:16 GMT

That was me!!! It was, Like going to bed at night and waking up every half hour to go out and start your car, in order to make sure it would start when you leave for work in the morning .

Just don't kill the battery during the night.

Reply #40

Raven62 — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 00:31:28 GMT

Every civilization developed a belief in a spirtual being/God without any influence from other civilizations.

Reply #39

amber124 — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 00:22:20 GMT

Words of a sage

Reply #38

amber124 — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 00:21:14 GMT

The best comment I have ever seen relating to the subject was either by you or someone else I forget. But the comment was the following, it's like starting your car seven times just to make sure the starter is working LOL

Reply #37

eddessaknight — Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:31:05 GMT

Do appreciate the thoughtful outreach amber

My hope is that here, where people from all walks of life walk together in kindness and pursuit of wisdom in dealing with universal language code of mathematics

To be in the world but not of it, free from ambition, greed, intellectual pride, blind obedience to custom or in awe of persona in higher rank.

Regardless where we stand, virtually nothing, is as it is made to appear to us

Invisible forces, that we don't know, affect us much more th... [ More ]

Reply #36

Stack47 — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 21:23:27 GMT

Each state lottery with live ball pick-3 and pick-4 drawings says about the same thing about their drawing process, but the majority of systems I read here and other places ignores it. Ten balls numbered 0 - 9 are placed into 3 or 4 containers, mixed, and the results are a three or four distinct digit combo . The drawn digits are shown in an order and payoffs are determined by that order. Box wagers are actually 3 or 6 bets for a $1 on the 3 or 6 combinations the three drawn digits make. IMO, an... [ More ]

Reply #35

JAMORA — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 05:13:21 GMT

Let's see if any of these fall box Fla mid.....

789

699

002

117

009

011

018

027

126

225

Reply #34

Lucky Loser — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 05:02:41 GMT

We can train ourselves in the art of navigating the seemingly unpredictable.

You speak very well in your commentary and I especially like this statement. For me, playing these games was once akin with rushing to work every morning down a simple two-lane road. On both sides were open pastures and there was plenty of nature to see and enjoy but, I never did because I was always rushing. It was only when I actually had a flat and was forced to stop that I noticed so much of all I had been missi... [ More ]

Reply #33

Stack47 — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 04:31:34 GMT

In the past we discussed do the pre-drawing test have an direct effect on the next, the one that pays drawing which is subjective, but there is an obvious real effect on systems based on past drawings. I have used past results systems that created hits, but then simply quit. Ball changes, different machines, and/or testing could be the cause, but how are the players suppose to know

Reply #32

eddessaknight — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 00:30:37 GMT

Thanks STACK

Eddessa,Knight

Reply #31

grwurston — Sun, 26 Aug 2018 21:51:24 GMT

If you go on the Md lottery website there is no video of the 7/30/18 evening drawing. They took the video down. Why? Because when they did the Pick 4 drawing someone left a sign on the machine that said TEST. Md. decided to call that the official draw. Hard to believe no one in the studio saw it before they drew the numbers live .

Unless they use one of the pre test drawings as the official draw and just forgot to digitally block out the sign. Makes you wonder, since some here think some stat... [ More ]

Reply #30

amber124 — Sun, 26 Aug 2018 04:33:14 GMT

Despite our opposing political views, I truly believe you are a very spiritual and

wordly kind of spiritualistic person. You are truly gifted!

I don't understand about 70% of what you write here on LP, but in your case it doesn't matter because from the get-go I felt something was not as all the others so to speak. LOL

I was born with a very quality dr0iven sense 4 bull excrement. LOL

And you my friend, tell it like it is right? I'm the same way, I don't like to mince words... [ More ]

Reply #29

amber124 — Sun, 26 Aug 2018 04:15:10 GMT

Exactly, they are trying to make those 7 pre-tests into something that is Unworthy of discussion, it's not that important because like you said it never happened LOL

One thing I left out was that the machines they use in the rotation Cycles. If you multiply the effects of pre-tests times the number of machines and I'm guessing the number of Random mix of those two, making it even more complex than it needs to be.

But as well as you and I know, it was on purpose because I used to win so muc... [ More ]

Reply #28

amber124 — Sun, 26 Aug 2018 04:06:09 GMT

All I can say is wow! You are one of the very few who really grasps the situation even though we've discussed this in the past, this comment was brilliant. I say this because I never even thought about the actual numbers involved, meaning 7 to 1 odds of my pick to be in one of the pre draws. That's very profound

Reply #27

eddessaknight — Sun, 26 Aug 2018 01:01:46 GMT

Thank You Lucky Loser

There are patterns everywhere in nature; and within all fields of speculation, lotteries, keno, etc including NYSE, there are patterns as well...

Right in front of us... hiding behind the numbers. Always has been. Just Graph any column of numbers from live non-manipulated past performances and upon examination patterns will invariably visibly emerge.

We can train ourselves in the art of navigating the seemingly unpredictable.

Omnia in numeris sita sun... [ More ]

Reply #26

Lucky Loser — Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:18:05 GMT

no idea what the previous drawing actually was.

I agree with you 100% here and I've also elaborated on this same 'deficiency' of required information. Depriving players of ALL past draw history with the exception of what's simply labeled as 'official draw results' is a gross and major flaw in my opinion. ALL numbers and combinations matter as they both affect the odds of what's more and less likely to occur enroute to their final 'official draw result.' If I'm not mistaken, most lotteries us... [ More ]

Reply #25

Stack47 — Sat, 25 Aug 2018 03:11:51 GMT

This is probably the best explanation I've read about the effect test drawings have on systems based on past drawings.

up to seven pretest drawings

Even add or subtract something from the previous drawing systems have no idea what the previous drawing actually was. If your combo is drawn, there is a 7 to 1 chance it will be drawn during a test.

Reply #24

amber124 — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 05:07:04 GMT

Thanks for your interest. To answer your question just read abovr if you haven't already.

Reply #23

amber124 — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 04:55:39 GMT

You seem so sure of yourself

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amber124 — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 04:47:27 GMT

A list of pre draw results wouldn't do me a dang good. What I wish for is to leave the machines alone!!!

Don't do any pre-tests, don't do any post tests, just leave the freaking machines alone thank you very much!

It's under lock and key anyways with cameras and video and whatever so for god sakes please stop making excuses as to why it's such a necessary process because of one incident back in the 80s in Pennsylvania, that's so laughable.

My whole text was always been, you can do a hun... [ More ]

Reply #21

GuesssWork — Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:53:13 GMT

The problem with systems is that they don't get a fair fight. They used to, but until a few years ago, they weren't subjected to many augmentations in the draw process.-- what do you think can be a solution to these augmentations you speak of? What's the fix stop playing?? are these augmentations screwing up your generators??. can you add the changed results into your system somehow to help your cause

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Soledad — Wed, 22 Aug 2018 23:51:47 GMT

I improvise too much. Yes breaks make flow better. In front of my nose all the time. But one mistake I made and never did was figure the cost vs the winning. I guess that s the form of gambling in the mind. The longer you do the more it just becomes. Perhaps. It s difficult to pinpoint, choices vs what would you have bet after knowing what comes, not really analytical. It takes a lot of time and focus to make sure a system will sail in your favor. Takes some fun out of things. And sometimes the

Reply #19

Lucky Loser — Wed, 22 Aug 2018 23:45:49 GMT

But mentally it can get just tedious to keep the mind focused.

To think about lotto non stop is to think about gambling non stop.

technically this is sometimes mental overload

Yes, and both of these can become very non-productive as you're trying too hard to force your way to a dependable system. In my personal experience, I discovered some of my absolute best ideas by just taking regular breaks from constant brainstorming. Some were a couple of days while others were actually weeks.... [ More ]

Reply #18

grwurston — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 23:55:00 GMT

not to get greedy if you don't want to mess up your good thing.

100% If someone all of a sudden starts cashing several multi thousand dollar straights, you better believe red flags are going to go up. And they're going to look at what you're doing. Especially if you have to go to the lottery office to cash in. After all it's a business, and no business wants huge losses.

Like you say,...small wins, frequent payouts. They will keep you under the radar, and profitable.... [ More ]

Reply #17

Soledad — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 23:36:38 GMT

That s not my main concern with a system . Following can be done many ways, all original, and the ones that are basic and general too are still good, as long as they are followed; Consistently.

But my problem is you have to spend sos much time on the system doing it over and over, technically this is sometimes mental overload and well they can be exhausting to follow all the time. A good system will adapt by the way. But mentally it can get just tedious to keep the mind focused. That s my pr... [ More ]

Reply #16

Lucky Loser — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 23:25:34 GMT

If a system worked, the lottery would change things if they knew everybody was using it, rendering it useless.

You have a good one, keep it to yourself and they'll never know.

Exactly, and I wouldn't expect any less of a professional answer from you. Some people really don't get this and feel it's wrong for a would-be successful player to be this way and not share. Others that fully understand the major implications of frequent 'mass winners' have no issue with it and I've elaborated on i... [ More ]

Reply #15

grwurston — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 02:47:56 GMT

If a system worked, the lottery would change things if they knew everybody was using it, rendering it useless. Maybe that's why they don't work. You have a good one, keep it to yourself and they'll never know.

There's no doubt that some people have figured it out. They're just not talking about it.

Reply #14

eddessaknight — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 00:12:14 GMT

BRIEFLY: Understand that the bottom line is what drives all gambling venues.

Management doesn't care a hoot what you are doing as long as you're losing as per expectation

Now if you just happen to be over coming the losing hand and or the odds and even if wearing a halo, things change-

The monitoring pit boss see a drop in the table drop asks hey what's going wrong with this game? Player is suppose to lose so he is video taped identified and if found to be an advantage player then a nu... [ More ]

Reply #13

Lucky Loser — Mon, 20 Aug 2018 23:50:29 GMT

The problem with systems is that they don't get a fair fight.

You're correct here but, it's not all in the system in my personal opinion. The reason the system can't get a fair fight is due to the structure of the game itself which lies within the numbers. A player has to really, really dwindle down their picks to nearly bare bones in order to realize a decent profit IF and when they hit. I felt the same way you do now regarding the pre-tests because what I was doing in terms of combos and fi... [ More ]

Reply #12

Rook — Mon, 20 Aug 2018 23:42:15 GMT

To me systems are just part of the entertainment value. It's even more so for me since I don't use any special software or anything. I just keep long lists of previous drawing results and analyze them manually. It's a very relaxing way to knock out 1-3 hours of insomnia, with some music and incense in the background. All of this data and tedious math and tracking patterns, though, while a nice way to wind down in the evening and also adding a little more fun to picking out my numbers, has never... [ More ]

Reply #11

Coin Toss — Mon, 20 Aug 2018 15:24:40 GMT

BobP,

The casino business is rife with superstition on both ends, the house and the players.

Cards may get changed out though because of suspicion that someone somehow marked them.

There are several gaming suppliers, on of them is Paulson. Dice from Paulson are known as Passing Paulsons so they get swapped out even if only to be replaced by other Paulsons.

The first and foremost rulein a casino is protect the game.

The unwritten rule is when anything is in doubt or not covered b... [ More ]

Reply #10

GuesssWork — Mon, 20 Aug 2018 15:24:29 GMT

I use the power of substitution to guide my lottery analysis strategy. I use trck, sort, categorize, chain. Does it work at times yes and others um, lol..

I use substitution in alot of ways from single digits to pairs to boxed combos i have so many subs, that i never know which one to use at times lol..

Reply #9

bobby623 — Mon, 20 Aug 2018 15:03:44 GMT

Guesswork

I use the power of substitution to guide my lottery analysis strategy.

I break a game into 3 parts, so, a good answer would require considerable explanation.

If I were just starting an analysis program for a specific Day,Draw,Time drawing for Pick 3, I would use the last 50 drawings.

This would create multiple trend lines that would eventually reach a maximum of 16 occurrences.

At that time, old history would be deleted.

I really don't know how much history would b... [ More ]

Reply #8

GuesssWork — Mon, 20 Aug 2018 15:01:14 GMT

The problem with systems are your fighting a current random event with a randomising system/s. There is no solution, an individual can get lucky is all.This by all means should not deter you from not trying though to predict or as my name states GuesssWork it. lol ..