If you can pick one number you can win P3

Reply #64

Clipper — Sat, 15 May 2004 21:50:29 GMT

BobP = Here is some info about the one digit that you might find useful. This is in regards to repeat digits from previous game played.When you are coming off a 3 different digit game and there is a 1 digit repeat, you reduce the 220 possible combinations to 84 possible combinations. This equates to 28 possible 3 digit combinations per each of the 3 digits that previously played.If you can eliminate 2 of those digits then you have only 28 possible 3-digit combinations to work with that inc... [ More ]

Reply #63

Littleoldlady — Fri, 07 May 2004 13:15:50 GMT

I have been reading this thread for a whole week now..and I like what I am reading..you guys keep going..it makes one think..

Reply #62

QWEST46 — Fri, 07 May 2004 02:49:32 GMT

All i'm saying is that with the knowledge that i have, i'm ahead of the game, on an average basis :)The info i posted in this thread has nothing to do with how i predict numbers. I don't predict numbers. I use probabilty to my adavantage.

Reply #61

QWEST46 — Fri, 07 May 2004 02:46:55 GMT

Well all i had to say so far had nothing to do with predictions at all. I use averages and averages is what makes u win. Basically, I'm talkin bout the continuing cycle of averages. So as far as my coin flipping examples, that has nothing to do with predicting what the next outcome will be. It was just an example to make it easier 4 people to understand.

Reply #60

BobP — Thu, 06 May 2004 04:35:01 GMT

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Reply #59

QWEST46 — Wed, 05 May 2004 21:02:06 GMT

Yes bob, there r 3 thousand digits.

Reply #58

Dr Pepper — Wed, 05 May 2004 15:17:00 GMT

Thanks for jumping in Bobp. Really need the help here. I had no idea where to begin with this and questioned the effort it might involve. Well, perhaps the attempt might help some other folks at the same time, so any help you could offer would be appreciated. Anything I were to say at this point would sound a little condescending, or too instructive to be of value, and that's not the impression someone wants to give. No one wants to discourage anyone from trying to participate, especially some... [ More ]

Reply #57

BobP — Wed, 05 May 2004 06:12:02 GMT

If there are 1,000 Pick-3 numbers consisting of three digits each, doesn't that mean there are 3,000 digits in the full set of 1,000 numbers

Reply #56

QWEST46 — Wed, 05 May 2004 05:43:46 GMT

Quest46, I re-read your post and you lost me after you agreed that a digit repeating on top of itself had a 1 in 10 chance of hitting in that same position. That's correct and obvious and confirmed with real world data. But- - - - then you said, Quote: You could also say that there's a 1 in 100 chance that any digit will be drawn in a particular posting and repeat. Would you show how this changed from 1 in 10 to the 1 in 100 using some good old basic math to explain. ThanksDr. Pepper, Lets s... [ More ]

Reply #55

Dr Pepper — Tue, 04 May 2004 20:15:19 GMT

Reply #54

Clipper — Tue, 04 May 2004 16:57:40 GMT

Dr Pepper = I break it down by going with 1 digit/1 position. Not only do you pick the magical number you pick the position it will play in.

Reply #53

Dr Pepper — Tue, 04 May 2004 16:45:50 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by QWEST46 on May 04, 2004_________________Yes of course there's a 1 in 10 chance of a digit repeating in the same position. You could also say that there's a 1 in 100 chance that any digit will be drawn in a particular posting and repeat. Let's say that the #3 is drawn in the first position. The chances of it repeating remains 1 in 10. Let's say that three hasn't been drawn yet and i anticipated it to be drawn twice in a row in the same position. Now the chances of that... [ More ]

Reply #52

Clipper — Tue, 04 May 2004 15:11:02 GMT

Here is some additional input though about repeat as it pertains to Texas. I looked at the 211 instances in my database where there had been a repeat digit and looked at the sequences of happenings. In otherwords, how long a sequence did a repeat happen regardless of where it repeated.There was 1 instance of a run of 10 games for repeat with the remainer of the sequences going 6-5-4-3-2-1. Of course the number of 6 sequence was smaller then 5, 5 smaller then 4 with the higher repeat seque... [ More ]

Reply #51

QWEST46 — Tue, 04 May 2004 14:45:37 GMT

Clipper, thanks for the effort but something just doesn't seem right. The question was about the first position and how often it repeats the next day. If 126 hits on Monday then what are the odds the same number will repeat in the first position on Tuesday as the same number 1 45 etc.? I had indicated before in the earlier post that it seemed like it might do this about 10% of the time or rather not come back this way 90% of the time. This would allow us to negate at least one of the 10 dig... [ More ]

Reply #50

Clipper — Tue, 04 May 2004 14:31:14 GMT

Thanks Bluegrass = saves me from having to go back and look at my database lol Im sure yours is more complete the mine right now because I dont have to keep an extensive database to work my system.Is interesting indeed to see the % of how often a specific position might repeat itself. While a digit repeats in same position collectivelyl for all 3 position 42.3% of the time we can now say that anyone specific position does not repeat itself more then 10% of the time.

Reply #49

BobP — Tue, 04 May 2004 07:34:56 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Clipper on May 03, 2004PS.....besides....I told you earlier I dont have a 1 digit system so it leaves me out. This discussion was about a 1 digit system and I asked BobP if he had heard about Steve Player's new system and just happened to mention my system and how close I was. No discussion initiated.I received Steve's new system advertisement too. I find it hard to believe a static system can win often enough to play at a profit over time and note he makes no cl... [ More ]

Reply #48

Berley — Tue, 04 May 2004 07:01:15 GMT

MISSOURI HAS HAD 4784 DRAWS 4784 # HITS IN NO. 1 POSITION 0 55 1.15% 1 52 1.09% 2 51 1.07% 3 54 1.13% 4 51 1.07% 5 45 0.94% 6 48 1.00% 7 32 0.67% 8 49 1.02% 9 52 1.09% 489 10.22

Reply #47

Bluegrass — Tue, 04 May 2004 05:28:48 GMT

For Georgia only, The first digit repeats in the first position 9.94 %, it has also repeated in the second position a total of 8.86 %, the first digit has repeated in the third position a total of 7.69 %, for a total repeat percentage of 26.48 %. Surprised me !I'll check out the other positions later this afternoon if time permits.Cheers !Bob

Reply #46

Dr Pepper — Tue, 04 May 2004 05:14:56 GMT

Wow! Thanks Bob.

Reply #45

Bluegrass — Tue, 04 May 2004 05:08:48 GMT

Did the same thing for Georgia, looks pretty close. Georgia Positions 123 9.94%9.31%9.93

Reply #44

Bluegrass — Tue, 04 May 2004 04:47:05 GMT

Just scanned my TX data base (both draws combined), Here are the percentages for a digit repeating in the same position for the very next draw, this data base includes the entire TX draw history, hope this info helps ! Texas Positions 123 10.01%9.48%10.42

Reply #43

Dr Pepper — Tue, 04 May 2004 04:18:21 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Clipper on May 03, 2004Dr Pepper = I did an analysis in my Combined Database for Texas that goes back to 10-1-2003. While this is not a full year of any one database it does cover quite a few games.Generally there is about a 60% repeat rate for digits that repeat from 1 game to the next. As other things this repeat rate can shift downward for periods of time to about 50% or so and probably times when higher then 60%.What I found in all the entries I have there were

Reply #42

QWEST46 — Tue, 04 May 2004 03:17:33 GMT

Yes of course. I see this post as a resort to be able to talk to people who share the same interest as i do, the lottery, numbers, chance, winning, gaming etc. It's a useful tool to theorize/share ideas and integrate them with one another. What i meant earlier, about the games changing if everyone knew how to win, was that the prize payout would be changed. Of course the state doesn't care because they get their cut reguardless. If everyone won then the payout would have to be something like 1... [ More ]

Reply #41

hypersoniq — Tue, 04 May 2004 01:18:36 GMT

As long as the state is winning, they don't really care... In PA, if enough people play a number (winning or not, they wouldn't know before the draw right?)... they close it... it sells out . Now, even if something were posted on here that would help the people here win... that's what... 4,631 accounts... scattered across the globe... who are all here to try and win... What if something could be patched together using a little something for each person's semi- or non-working systems... but the... [ More ]

Reply #40

QWEST46 — Tue, 04 May 2004 01:00:24 GMT

Clipper, perhaps you are missing the point here. The Systems forum is for folks to share and learn about the best systems to use(on the record). If you don't want to share anything that's fine. No one ask. Perhaps you know of another less well known system that you might share that beats the current record holder system.The point is to find a system that everyone can see and might be demonstrated here and beats the current record of 10%. That's what folks want to see. It was an open question fo... [ More ]

Reply #39

Clipper — Mon, 03 May 2004 21:55:58 GMT

Dr Pepper = I did an analysis in my Combined Database for Texas that goes back to 10-1-2003. While this is not a full year of any one database it does cover quite a few games.Generally there is about a 60% repeat rate for digits that repeat from 1 game to the next. As other things this repeat rate can shift downward for periods of time to about 50% or so and probably times when higher then 60%.What I found in all the entries I have there were 211 cases where there was a repeat digit. Of the t... [ More ]

Reply #38

Clipper — Mon, 03 May 2004 21:06:30 GMT

Dr Pepper = I probably can get some statistics for that based on Texas play. Like how many times a digit repeats and compare to how many times it might repeat in same position vs a different one.I dont think I've ever checked that kind of things before.

Reply #37

Dr Pepper — Mon, 03 May 2004 20:55:00 GMT

I think there are ways to improve on that system and improve the 10% average hit rate. How often does a first position digit repeat on top of itself? If you simply drop yesterdays first number digit by position that would improve the odds a little more. My gut feel is that it doesn't come back in that position the next day 90% of the time.

Reply #36

Clipper — Mon, 03 May 2004 20:52:11 GMT

Prometheus....Oh I get it quite well and that is exactly what I was discussing with BobP and QWEST....a 1 digit system. If I want to mention my efforts then so be it as well because I wasnt aiming to make a discussion out of it and even told you I didnt have a 1 digit system so that left me out <G

Reply #35

Prometheus1 — Mon, 03 May 2004 20:37:04 GMT

Reply #34

Clipper — Mon, 03 May 2004 20:27:39 GMT

PS.....besides....I told you earlier I dont have a 1 digit system so it leaves me out. This discussion was about a 1 digit system and I asked BobP if he had heard about Steve Player's new system and just happened to mention my system and how close I was. No discussion initiated.

Reply #33

Clipper — Mon, 03 May 2004 20:17:40 GMT

Well.....Mr. Prometheus....take a look at this.....http://hometown.aol.com/couclipper/index.html That's as close to my system as you are going to get and I will not be goated into revealing something that is going to be worth millions dventually. So you see....there is something to show....you just wont get to see anything further. It's actual software that has been developed.BTW = I do share information regards the facts I use in my system too when I post possible combinations to play... [ More ]

Reply #32

Prometheus1 — Mon, 03 May 2004 20:02:56 GMT

No one cares about systems that people won't share, of course. Most folks talk about this and that system and never attach any numbers or facts to their opinions. This is an attempt to put some prospective to those opinions at least those that have no data to back them up. This is a start and perhaps the end, if no one can beat the repeatable 10% win rate of the current System Champ. If someone can't show their system on the System Forum then they should move it over to the, I've got a secret... [ More ]

Reply #31

Clipper — Mon, 03 May 2004 19:38:41 GMT

Let's see.....by 10% win rate....do you mean 10% of playable days? Like 312 days (based on 6 day game week) and 31.2 times a year?PS...I wont demo my system because then that would be giving it away and Im not about to do that! Nor do I feel the need to be #1.

Reply #30

Prometheus1 — Mon, 03 May 2004 19:29:25 GMT

Can it beat a 10% win rate average? How much? 12%, 15% ? Can it beat the Number # 1 system in the world? Can anyone's system beat 10% ? Seriously, if anyone can demo a system that can beat 10% then that will give it the number one spot. Until then, the If you know one number system is still # 1 at a crummy 10% win rate.

Reply #29

Clipper — Mon, 03 May 2004 19:09:35 GMT

If it's the 1# system that gives you 36 combos to box.....I would rather work with my system that can take the possible combinations down to 20 or less without exclusion of combinations. Then I will figure out which ONE and the exact order to play it.

Reply #28

Prometheus1 — Mon, 03 May 2004 18:32:46 GMT

Well, until someone demo's otherwise the, If you know one number system is the number #1 System in the World with an average hit rate of only 10%. Currently.

Reply #27

Clipper — Mon, 03 May 2004 18:23:51 GMT

I dont use a 1 number system so that leaves me out.

Reply #26

Prometheus1 — Mon, 03 May 2004 18:19:53 GMT

Not talking about the If part on all these systems. Talking about the right now part on that IF you know one number system. That system gives and average hit rate of 10% right now. Just wanted to know if anyone's system was actually any better than that. Currently. Can anyone beat 10

Reply #25

Clipper — Mon, 03 May 2004 18:04:39 GMT

Prometheus = If I could figure out the final element in my system it would hit 99.9% of the time.Today for the Texas Midday the game was 817. Coming off 274 I figured there would be a 1 digit repeat. If I had been able to figure the final element out my software would have given me only 8 possible exact combinations to play: 302 312 612 307 812 807 817With 1 more decision I could have reduced the 8 to 5 and with one more decisioin.....reduced to the exact that did

Reply #24

Prometheus1 — Mon, 03 May 2004 17:51:21 GMT

What do you think is a better system than that one? Why? That system gives you a an average win 10% of the time. What is the average hit rate of the system you use now? Is it much better? How much better? 12% ? 14%? Perhaps 20

Reply #23

Clipper — Mon, 03 May 2004 12:50:07 GMT

Have read Steve Player's most recent flyer and about this PURE PLAY system for Pick 3? Got the mail over the weekend, opened it but didnt even read it until another on the forum said something about receiving a recent flyer discussing a PURE PLAY system where you use 12 straights to play.Curiosity got me so I got the flyer and sure enough it was the one she was talking about. Read it through and had to chuckle at his description of himself and about how he's worked for over 20 years on numbe... [ More ]

Reply #22

BobP — Mon, 03 May 2004 05:33:32 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by QWEST46 on May 03, 2004Nothing of interest to me either. I already disreguarded that system a long time ago after i figured it out on my own.I agree, the system is just a wheel, nothing to get excited about until a means is found to consistantly predict one digit for the Pick-3 game and then it becomes very interesting. BobP

Reply #21

QWEST46 — Mon, 03 May 2004 04:36:57 GMT

Nothing of interest to me either. I already disreguarded that system a long time ago after i figured it out on my own.

Reply #20

Clipper — Sun, 02 May 2004 16:44:15 GMT

BpbP = I looked at it briefly but it didnt hold my interest <G

Reply #19

BobP — Sun, 02 May 2004 06:53:23 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Clipper on May 01, 2004BobP=thought you might be interested to know.....have a Pick 3 friend in South Carolina I mentioned the website too. He said that he already has the system and NOT WORTH THE PAPER ITS PRINTED ON!Says it just gives you 36 boxed combinations to play and if you have a double you loose.Now you really surprise me because the Lotto-Logix version of the system clearly includes Doubles and Triples, didn't you visit the link? They give out the box vers... [ More ]

Reply #18

Clipper — Sat, 01 May 2004 20:01:13 GMT

BobP=thought you might be interested to know.....have a Pick 3 friend in South Carolina I mentioned the website too. He said that he already has the system and NOT WORTH THE PAPER ITS PRINTED ON!Says it just gives you 36 boxed combinations to play and if you have a double you loose.

Reply #17

Clipper — Sat, 01 May 2004 03:19:34 GMT

That's OK QWEST = it can get confusing....especially when you have your mind in a particular train of thought <G

Reply #16

QWEST46 — Sat, 01 May 2004 02:45:36 GMT

Sorry clipper from misunderstanding u. I was thinking exactly what bob was. Exact does mean Straight.....And ...if you do get the magical number AND the position it will be in then you ARE guaranteed to win with 100 possible combinations to play. There are ways to reduce that 100 down to even less by applying the 12 Facts. ---> Right you are, isn't that what I said eight posts back? Guess I was confused by your way of saying it ---would take 300 numbers to play all three positions.Any idea... [ More ]

Reply #15

Clipper — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:41:20 GMT

Nope.....that doesnt sound right to me either. Especially when the fact is there is usually a 60% repeat rate of a digit from previous game. If not repeat digit, then usually the game prior to that game will have the digit.In other words, either a digit will repeat or the first digit to play will be 2 games out. If there is no repeat then you can eliminate up to 3 digits of the 10 from consideration regardless of whether you get the magical number or not.Sorry if you thought I was saying

Reply #14

BobP — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:25:43 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Clipper on April 30, 2004Exact does mean Straight.....And ...if you do get the magical number AND the position it will be in then you ARE guaranteed to win with 100 possible combinations to play. There are ways to reduce that 100 down to even less by applying the 12 Facts.Right you are, isn't that what I said eight posts back? Guess I was confused by your way of saying it would take 300 numbers to play all three positions.Any ideas for selecting the magical number... [ More ]

Reply #13

Clipper — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:59:10 GMT

Exact does mean Straight.....And ...if you do get the magical number AND the position it will be in then you ARE guaranteed to win with 100 possible combinations to play. There are ways to reduce that 100 down to even less by applying the 12 Facts.

Reply #12

BobP — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:42:42 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Clipper on April 29, 2004Picking the magical number is looking at the most recent game that played in anticipation of a Repeat Digit to go forward to the next game. Usually it is a 1 in 3 shot unless you are coming off a Doubles game which gives you a 50/50 shot at the magical number .The redundant boxing is simply shooting for the EXACT combination to play whereby you rule out the magical number from playing in any other position. This is not for boxed ga... [ More ]

Reply #11

Clipper — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:46:17 GMT

Picking the magical number is looking at the most recent game that played in anticipation of a Repeat Digit to go forward to the next game. Usually it is a 1 in 3 shot unless you are coming off a Doubles game which gives you a 50/50 shot at the magical number .The redundant boxing is simply shooting for the EXACT combination to play whereby you rule out the magical number from playing in any other position. This is not for boxed game playing.There are considerations you can make to r... [ More ]

Reply #10

BobP — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:33:55 GMT

Clipper:Maybe there are 100 combinations with a specific digit in each of the three positions, but isn't that simply redundent boxing as the remaining two digits aren't fixed? Sorry, I can't get my head around what you're saying, is an example possible? Visit here, using the 0 as an example where is the system going wrong? Still need ideas how to pick the magical digit. Thanks. BobP http://www.lotto-logix.com/txthouse/lottodojo2.html

Reply #9

Clipper — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:51:26 GMT

Bobp=I hope I've answered your question as well? When I first started tracking the Pick 3 I analyzed the 1000 EXACT combinations. When I tell people they need to have a thorough understanding of the 1000 combinations this is what I am speaking about. If one has a thorough understanding of the numbers they will realize that each of the 10 digits will appear in 100 EXACT combinations in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd position. If a Double is involved in will not only be in whatever position you are antic... [ More ]

Reply #8

Clipper — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:43:31 GMT

QWEST =Yes...I know what Im talking about. There are exactly 100 EXACT combinations with any specific digit (0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9) in any specific position (1st-2nd-3rd). This means there are 100 EXACT combinations with the 0 in the 1st, with the 1 in the 1st, with the 2 in the 1st, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 in the 1st position.Just as there are 100 EXACT combinations with a digit in the 1st position there are 100 EXACT combinations with each digit in the 2nd position and each digit in the 3rd pos... [ More ]

Reply #7

QWEST46 — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:57:47 GMT

Exactly Bob. Clipper, r u sure u know that u're talkin bout. Bobp knows what he's talkin bout.(u're quote clipper)---> The 1 digit idea is simply this.....there are exactly 100 combinations with any specific digit in any specific position. There is also a 60% repeat rate for a digit playing from a previous game. That's where you look first for the 1 digit to play. Then figure out what position it will play in, use other criteria to eliminate and reduce the 100 possible combinations down.... [ More ]

Reply #6

BobP — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:51:36 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Clipper on April 28, 2004BobP = perhaps I can shed a little light on this because it is something that I came across 10 years ago when I first started tracking digits. The 1 digit idea is simply this.....there are exactly 100 combinations with any specific digit in any specific position. There is also a 60% repeat rate for a digit playing from a previous game. That's where you look first for the 1 digit to play. Then figure out what position it will play in, use... [ More ]

Reply #5

Clipper — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 02:02:26 GMT

BobP = perhaps I can shed a little light on this because it is something that I came across 10 years ago when I first started tracking digits. The 1 digit idea is simply this.....there are exactly 100 combinations with any specific digit in any specific position. There is also a 60% repeat rate for a digit playing from a previous game. That's where you look first for the 1 digit to play. Then figure out what position it will play in, use other criteria to eliminate and reduce the 100 possib... [ More ]

Reply #4

BobP — Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:16:33 GMT

You can buy the system for $29.99 or there are eight hours remaining to buy the entire web site system selling business on ebay for $99.99 which would make good sense if you couldn't buy the system for $6.95 elsewhere on ebay.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem category=46687 item=3811281951 rd=1Don't mention it. ;-) BobP

Reply #3

QWEST46 — Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:01:34 GMT

Ok bobp, i read through that site. It actually is the same system that i was referring to. Only difference is that Robert Perkins (is that u by the way?) included doubles and the triple for the 1 key digit chosen on top of the other remaining combos. Do the math of probablity to determine which system is better. If u're good at avoiding double/triple hitting days, try the one i mentioned. If u like to have more winning days, try the one from that site. Use the odds against itself

Reply #2

QWEST46 — Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:52:24 GMT

Whoops, sorry bobp. I waystalkin bout a different system fron the 1 u were. I just checked out the site u posted. After actually reading through that site, i will get back to again.

Reply #1

QWEST46 — Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:43:58 GMT

I don't know bobp, but that system is risky. I am aware of it by once discovering it when i was analyzing the game. Basically you figure out which 1 digit will likely be drawn. That's all u need. Play all the combinations w/ that 1 digit. It comes out to be 36 all different combinations boxed (251 straight). So basically, it's like having a 1 in 10 chance of winning (for the drawings that doubles/ triples don't hit). It's risky. $36 to get a 1 in 10 chance + 1 in 3 chance of automatically losing... [ More ]

If you can pick one number you can win P3

BobP — Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:32:01 GMT

There is a Pick-3 system being sold all over the web and on ebay where if you can correctly pick one of the three Pick-3 digits they guarantee you can win Pick-3. Of course it's just the digit you picked along side the remaining nine digits in all their possible pairings. Lotto-Logix gives that part of the system away free here: http://www.lotto-logix.com/txthouse/lottodojo2.htmlThe trouble with the system is you have to get the single digit correct almost every time or you are guaranteed to l... [ More ]