I'm sure there are going to be some upset members, but...

Reply #45

JohnC — Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT

God on you Todd, there is far too much bending of the rules these days and people are allowed to get away with it. As for passing on private messages , well, I agree with you - that's completely beyond the bounds of reasonable behaviour.John

Reply #44

RJOh — Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:26:08 GMT

The rules for all members are posted to the left of the page. When you become a member, that is your contract.RJOh

Reply #43

MrAngelnowings — Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:15:15 GMT

Todd,For the sake of good business....GET A CONTRACT OR AGREEMENT with anyone wanting advertisement, promotion, etc from now on...We need to separate personal and business. Mike may be a cool guy, helpful, etc BUT busines is businessExample, I love my family but i'm not going to let them ruin my business. Helping their own ventures at the expense of mine is wrong.Traffic on the net is VERY important as it is in real life for storefronts, etcIf that other guy fails to realize the enormous free ad... [ More ]

Reply #42

trance — Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:15:05 GMT

Guess Lotterypost is also a good place to let us learn to be a man and be responible to ourselves.We only knows to cherish something when we have lost it.Dont cry for the spoiled milk,guys....

Reply #41

bobo7703 — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:54:15 GMT

let this die

Reply #40

Todd — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:36:16 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on August 20, 2004Quote: Originally posted by Littleoldlady on August 20, 2004I always wondered about the advertisement, too. It is sad that a person cannot follow rules. I am even more shocked about the back biting. I always thought he was a good person. I know it costs a lot to run a website. It can leap to thousands before you blink your eyes. MikeK is going to wake up and realize he shot himself in the foot. ANY website that will give you ANY free advert... [ More ]

Reply #39

BobP — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:13:37 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Littleoldlady on August 20, 2004I always wondered about the advertisement, too. It is sad that a person cannot follow rules. I am even more shocked about the back biting. I always thought he was a good person. I know it costs a lot to run a website. It can leap to thousands before you blink your eyes. MikeK is going to wake up and realize he shot himself in the foot. ANY website that will give you ANY free advertisement is like finding dollar bills laying in the

Reply #38

CalifDude — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:16:53 GMT

Wow! I'm getting into this so late everyone has already expressed what I would have said. I'm sorry it happened, but I certainly don't blame Todd. Especially when a warning is given. If the warning is not headed, then Todd had no recourse but to ban MikeK. Anything else I say would be just repeating what has already been said. This is an awesome site. Keep up the good work, Todd.

Reply #37

Todd — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:48:00 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on August 20, 2004When my monthly issue of Lotto World Magazine would arrive the very first thing I'd turn to was the classified ads to see if there was any new systems or software out. I've always found new lottery methods most interesting.One of the other lottery discussion groups says it will allow lottery authors of legitimate systems and software to discuss their products in relation to playing lotto with them and to include the link where they can be found... [ More ]

Reply #36

Littleoldlady — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:25:28 GMT

I always wondered about the advertisement, too. It is sad that a person cannot follow rules. I am even more shocked about the back biting. I always thought he was a good person. I know it costs a lot to run a website. It can leap to thousands before you blink your eyes. MikeK is going to wake up and realize he shot himself in the foot. ANY website that will give you ANY free advertisement is like finding dollar bills laying in the street. I wonder what he will do the next time he has to ra... [ More ]

Reply #35

RJOh — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:18:09 GMT

Gail Howard, Steve Player, MikeK and others all have a website to sell their products, if they were interested in discussion their products, they would add a discussion forum to their site. Four years ago when I bought a copy of LottoPro, they had a discussion forum at their website. After a year that part of the website was discontinued, probably because it was more trouble than it was worth. When anyone creates a website, do the work and pay the bills to maintain it, they make the rules too.... [ More ]

Reply #34

BobP — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 06:13:29 GMT

When my monthly issue of Lotto World Magazine would arrive the very first thing I'd turn to was the classified ads to see if there was any new systems or software out. I've always found new lottery methods most interesting.One of the other lottery discussion groups says it will allow lottery authors of legitimate systems and software to discuss their products in relation to playing lotto with them and to include the link where they can be found. This is for the author only and does not include... [ More ]

Reply #33

Blackie — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 04:06:58 GMT

Todd , as you know, I havent been here long but the rules as I read them are: No Blatant Advertising No Spanning No Warnings . I dont know Mike K , he sounds like a nice guy, but rules are rules. Thanks for the great site and all of your hard work and many hours of your time not to metion the costs.. Blackie.

Reply #32

rowe81263 — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:15:29 GMT

WHO THE HELL IS MIKE K?BETTER YET WHO CARES? TODD RULES

Reply #31

trigger — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:09:04 GMT

Todd you get my vote. This is a fantastic site there are no other , and I am sure we all appreciate the hard work that goes into running this site.

Reply #30

bowldog — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:54:32 GMT

rules is rules is rules, bye-bye MikeK. I think this site gives us all so much, and best of all its free! Asking us to abide by the forum rules seems so little to ask, for what we all share in return.

Reply #29

emilyg — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:40:12 GMT

i like mike. have won some good money using mike's systems. he has always been kind, took time to explain and prompt in providing help. todd has every right to run his forum expecting rules to be followed. this is between todd and mike. i appreciate todd informing us as to why mike was suspended.all you hollier-than-thou people - take a good look at yourselves.

Reply #28

four4me — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:38:16 GMT

I've had some dealings with MikeK myself. If it weren't for him I wouldn't have the Excel data base I have. I also assumed that Todd and Mike were together on his venture. I am sorry that it didn't work out. Mike has some outstanding programing skills and it's a shame that you guys couldn't come to some sort of agreement. I agree that rules are rules and in the immortal words of Babe Ruth (rules!!! I broke every rule in the book and some that weren't written yet.) I hope when things cool off you... [ More ]

Reply #27

dragon — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:01:26 GMT

I haven't noticed anyone questioning finances or using them as any argument.I am using a service by logging into this site, and the website (whoever owns it) chose to provide it for free, at this membership level. If the owner makes money using it, what does that have to do with me? How could I possibly be upset about the owner making money off a product he provides?Do I want the local Starbucks to remain profitable, so it can be there tomorrow? Geez, what are people thinking?Having said that, I... [ More ]

Reply #26

reddog — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:00:44 GMT

Todd, this is the second or third time recently I have read about someone questioning or bringing up your business finances. I don't give a rat's (you know what) about the business part of it. I feel no one else here should either.What matters is that you have given all of the opportunity to share our ideas and knowledge to each other for free. That says alot. I am fully aware that you bust your kahunas to make this a great site and you have done an excellent job. I toast you.

Reply #25

MrAngelnowings — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:14:39 GMT

Todd,You need to rule with an iron fist...lolI had this happen long ago with some of my mods. They let the praise and fans they acquired, as being part of my forum, get to their head. Especially from my so-called right hand man.We ended up fighting online..it wasnt pretty. They talked behind my back as well. Even tried to recruit people away from my site to theirs, etcI ended up deleting them all. BEST MOVE I EVER MADETalking from one that went thru the same thing as you...here's my advice:CUT O... [ More ]

Reply #24

lottoarchitect — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:32:58 GMT

Sad to hear a member suspended

Reply #23

Todd — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:32:03 GMT

Thanks again for the nice c

Reply #22

BIRD — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:27:47 GMT

Todd run your site the way you see fit ,if we want to visit someone we have that ability,but like mom always said if you going to stay here you goning to have to play by the rules

Reply #21

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:24:13 GMT

I'm really surprised at MIKE's actions he seemed like a professional businessman.But never the less this is TODD's house and under his roof we must obey the rulesor get kicked out.Just like when we were all teens living at home we had rules to obey and if we didn't some got kicked out and others got a BEATEN.

Reply #20

Gentlespirit — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:19:13 GMT

Todd...this is YOUR Website, and you control the rules regulations. You are the Boss. You did what you had to do. I admire a person who lives up to their principles. Keep up the good work Todd! I love the Lottery Post.

Reply #19

Saleo Paleo — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:42:58 GMT

Thanks Todd for giving us a place to discuss and post our predictions with the other members, This is your business and you run it in a very professional way,and all members wheather it is Mikek or any of the rest of us,When you are in someones home you go by there rules,I'm sure you are out quite a sum of money,Just for the upkeep of the site alone,I like Mikek also but the rules should have been honored by him,Thanks again for the lottery post.

Reply #18

Benjamin'04 — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:36:28 GMT

sounds like u gave him to m

Reply #17

fja — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:19:39 GMT

looks like you gave him more than enough chances

Reply #16

Blackapple — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:42:59 GMT

MikeK needs to make amendsIts in your heart.He may havebeen a big and significant giver,but he took also.Give respect tothe person who created a outlet for your giving .We choose not tobelieve a bait switch tacticwas done.

Reply #15

psykomo — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:27:59 GMT

TODD:Thank you for your Vision, Leadership, Time and Effort!...We picked YOU, and you are the BEST NUMBER in the BOOK!.LP the BEST...............................THANKS...PSYKOMO

Reply #14

Grammy3 — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:01:18 GMT

You know the saying Give them a inch and they will take a mile. I understand you and would like to say it is great coming to this site and i support you all the way.

Reply #13

JAP69 — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:36:48 GMT

ToddYou had been very flexible in the rules in this matter. The line needed to be drawn.

Reply #12

ohioplayer — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:04:49 GMT

ToddI can only imagine the time and effort it takes to produce a site such as this. To do what you do I have wondered if you even have time to sleep. It is appreciated what you do. Always stick to your principles. Keep up the good work and be blessed.

Reply #11

Todd — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:01:07 GMT

Thanks all for your supportive comments. (And also some nice PMs.

Reply #10

Sandy K — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:48:55 GMT

First of all let me say this: I really like MikeK........he gives us a lot of free stuff on his web site and I do appreciate it. I am not a software buyer so I have never bought anything from him but I do use his free wheels, etc. occasionally.I wondered all along how he got away with posting the links in his messages. You were all over Cashologist for doing it, Todd. You must stay consistent to the Forum rules.I agree with you 100%. And the backstabbing, geez..........how old are we? Anyo... [ More ]

Reply #9

Mana — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:41:17 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by jim695 on August 19, 2004 I don't recall any guarantee mentioned in my free membership agreement.I like MikeK but, realistically, we're all your guests here, Todd. You can throw any of us off the forum at any time, for any reason, even if you don't like the color of our shirts, if you want to, and you're not obligated to explain yourself to any of us.I'm sure you would never do that. My taste in clothes is fairly tolerable, although I'll admit I'm no fashion plate. It... [ More ]

Reply #8

CARBOB — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:56:57 GMT

Todd, When I discovered this forum, I was pleasantly surprised, and appreciate very much the information that everyone contributes. Rules have to be made, rules have to be followed. I'm sure you did, what you felt you had to do, with a open and clear mind.Carbob

Reply #7

johnph77 — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:52:06 GMT

Todd -It's your forum - period. If you've established certain guidelines and someone steps over those lines you have to take whatever action you deem appropriate. So be it. Your explanation is but a courtesy to the members who have read his posts in the past and probably goes far beyond what you needed to say.As far as links go, I personally feel it necessary when I post a link to my site and/or pages to put the caveat in there that I'm non-commercial, I'm not trying to sell anybody anything and... [ More ]

Reply #6

jim695 — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:00:14 GMT

I don't recall any guarantee mentioned in my free membership agreement.I like MikeK but, realistically, we're all your guests here, Todd. You can throw any of us off the forum at any time, for any reason, even if you don't like the color of our shirts, if you want to, and you're not obligated to explain yourself to any of us.I'm sure you would never do that. My taste in clothes is fairly tolerable, although I'll admit I'm no fashion plate. It's not like my entire wardrobe came from Wal-Mart; I r... [ More ]

Reply #5

BobP — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 07:59:26 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by 5370 on August 19, 2004 i like mike kWe all do, I can't think of anyone who doesn't, but that's not the question. The question is whether MikeK has to play by the same rules we do or he gets a special pass to do as he likes and runs this forum rather then Todd. It becomes a question of what kind of a forum are we going to have, one with rules and responsible moderation or spam from within and without. It's in everyone's best interest to have Todd running things, esp... [ More ]

Reply #4

5370 — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 07:28:47 GMT

i like mike k

Reply #3

BobP — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 07:27:52 GMT

Everything has a best balan

Reply #2

Colin F — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:51:52 GMT

ToddStick to your principles.Throughout my business life I've walked away from money because it went against my principles; I've never regretted it. Unfortunately, some people have no conscience and money reigns supreme in their life.There is Retail Magnate in Sydney worth hundreds of millions of dollars like to have a dabble on the ponies and even owns a few. There was an article recently in a Sunday paper about him. Know what his favorite hobby and past-time is at the moment? Can you believe w... [ More ]

Reply #1

DoctorEw220 — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:40:10 GMT

You did what you felt you had to, and that's what matters.

I'm sure there are going to be some upset members, but...

Todd — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:04:52 GMT

I'm sure there are going to be some upset members, but I have been forced to suspend MikeK from the forum.Some of you may have seen this coming, because MikeK has been distributing some of my private messages to a group of people here, without my knowledge.When I started this Web site over four years ago, I decided that I would always stick to a set of principles, because I felt that so much of the failure on the Internet is caused by people who have no core values.An example of this would be ma... [ More ]