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Posted: January 16, 2012, 1:50 am - IP Logged

The only one that doesn't understand it Floyd is you.

Now you are overlooking your wild a** guess of two thirds of winners in 2011 and 90% in most years. Just go to the Powerball website, look up past winners, and see what you find. There is nothing there that is close to your claims. A grouop tghat wins isn't going to have one of the group members use their own name and only their name at a press conference and no group win would be listed as Charley Jones or KY Floyd. "Floyd ole buddy, you accept the check, pay the taxes, and then give us our shares, that's right neighborly of ya."

You're just proving yourself to be highly opinionated and completely ignorant that anyone can disputea your claims juist by taking the extra step and looking up the real data instead of taking your opinions, which are nothing but your opinions, as fact.

Perhaps you should go to work for Pravda or North Korean radio.

The only thing being proven here is that you're got a problem understanding what you read and an inability to understand the information available on the Powerball website. I realize you're not the sharpest tool in a box of mallets, but maybe you could get someone to help you do exactly what you suggested. Go to the Powerball site, and *look up* the  winners. Here's a hint: the chart ha slinks to info aboutsome of the winners.

Maybe the person who helps you can also explain the difference between "some" and "most".

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    KY Floyd,

    You said:

    "Your chances of getting the powerball right are currently 1 in 39, but despite your delusions about PB being two lotteries, everybody who plays a powerball also has to play 5 other numbers on their ticket..."

    Powerball website FAQ page:

    Powerball is actually two games in one – a big jackpot game and a big Cash 5 game.

    Tells me you are the one who is delusional Floyd since you think you know more about it than Powerball does.

    They're free to hype it as "two games in one", it still isn't "two lotteries".

    Get back to me when you buy a ticket for just one game of the two games in one.

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      Hello  Todd and my LP family friends,

            I'm only on here a few years and I'm usually very quiet staying on the sidelines..My question is ..Does this story have the most comments of all the storys on LP...I love reading most of the storys and their comments...I just wanted to know if this was the biggest  comment filled one as of yet..  O ....By the way ...Great job Todd  and the Fans of LP..always makes my day..PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL MY L.P. FAMILYPartyUS FlagParty

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        I went down the list provided by Coin Toss and placed all the winners into either the Powerball search or the Lottery Post search to bring up all the news stories about each of the 12 Powerball wins for 2011.

        Steven Lloyd (1) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/111911PA_lloyd.shtml

        Putnam Ave. Family Trust (3) http://www.lotterypost.com/news/239831

        Kathy Scruggs (1) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/091411GA_Scruggs.shtml

        Name Withheld (1) Sept 7, 2011

        Thomas Morris - Burnsville Couple Claims $228.9 million Powerball® Jackpot (2) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/081011MN_Morris.sh tml

        Pending (1) June 29, 2011

        Jimmy Freeman (1) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/060811MA_freeman.shtml

        1937 Flatbush Avenue Dodgers LLC (20) http://www.lotterypost.com/news/232930

        William "Bill" Swanson II (1) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/042311IN_Swanson.shtml

        Michael Reardon & Darin Fox (2) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/040611IN_Fox_Reardon.shtml

        Carvajal Family Group (1) http://www.lotterypost.com/news/228539

        Stephen Kirwan (1) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/012211NY_Kirwan.shtml

        12 jackpots claimed. 35 winners total. 8 individuals. 4 groups of 27 people.

        27/35 = 77.1% winners from groups

        The chance of winning was overwhelmingly better from a group in 2011.  Of course being somewhat more eager to win the largest amount possible, I don't join groups.  And I hope when it happens, there won't be another winner to share the pot.

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          I went down the list provided by Coin Toss and placed all the winners into either the Powerball search or the Lottery Post search to bring up all the news stories about each of the 12 Powerball wins for 2011.

          Steven Lloyd (1) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/111911PA_lloyd.shtml

          Putnam Ave. Family Trust (3) http://www.lotterypost.com/news/239831

          Kathy Scruggs (1) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/091411GA_Scruggs.shtml

          Name Withheld (1) Sept 7, 2011

          Thomas Morris - Burnsville Couple Claims $228.9 million Powerball® Jackpot (2) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/081011MN_Morris.sh tml

          Pending (1) June 29, 2011

          Jimmy Freeman (1) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/060811MA_freeman.shtml

          1937 Flatbush Avenue Dodgers LLC (20) http://www.lotterypost.com/news/232930

          William "Bill" Swanson II (1) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/042311IN_Swanson.shtml

          Michael Reardon & Darin Fox (2) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/040611IN_Fox_Reardon.shtml

          Carvajal Family Group (1) http://www.lotterypost.com/news/228539

          Stephen Kirwan (1) http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winners/2011/012211NY_Kirwan.shtml

          12 jackpots claimed. 35 winners total. 8 individuals. 4 groups of 27 people.

          27/35 = 77.1% winners from groups

          The chance of winning was overwhelmingly better from a group in 2011.  Of course being somewhat more eager to win the largest amount possible, I don't join groups.  And I hope when it happens, there won't be another winner to share the pot.

          You say there were 8 individuals who won jackpots and 4 groups that won jackpots in 2011.

          And from that you say you were overwhelmingly more likely to win a jackpot if you were in a group?

          The number of people in the groups is irrelevant, we're talking about winning jackpots. Doesn't matter if there were thousands in the groups. 

          There were 12 jackpots won. Eight were won by individuals, four were won by groups.

          That's a 2 to 1 advantage for individuals over groups where I went to school.

          K-Y Jelly Floyd will dispute this, naturally, because it's not the way he wants it to be.

          But that's the way it is nonetheless

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            Posted: January 16, 2012, 5:16 pm - IP Logged

            Hello  Todd and my LP family friends,

                  I'm only on here a few years and I'm usually very quiet staying on the sidelines..My question is ..Does this story have the most comments of all the storys on LP...I love reading most of the storys and their comments...I just wanted to know if this was the biggest  comment filled one as of yet..  O ....By the way ...Great job Todd  and the Fans of LP..always makes my day..PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL MY L.P. FAMILYPartyUS FlagParty

            gocart i joined later than you,

            w/out looking up anything .

            just a guess,the athiest thread.

            sorry dont't know the link.

            Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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              Posted: January 16, 2012, 6:33 pm - IP Logged

              Ky Floyd,

              Some day you'll realize your bs can be oh so easily disproved just by going to the sources you are trying to skew the data of. Nice attempted save.

              truecritic,

              Floyd's statement wasn't that most of the people who won a jackpot in 2011 had belonged to a group, his statement was that 2/3 of the 2011 jackpot wins were group wins.

              I'm with Ridge, 8 of 12 does not = 2/3. Floyd is just doing a huge spin attempt to prove he wasn't wrong.

              He went on to tell us that in most years 90% of the jackposts go to groups. Just go to the PB website, it's all there, and in no year is it anywhere c.ose to 90%.

              I'm sure Floyd had a grand time at the 1994 World Series, I'm thinking maybe you did to.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                gocart i joined later than you,

                w/out looking up anything .

                just a guess,the athiest thread.

                sorry dont't know the link.

                Thanks haymaker..

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                  I like that the prize for getting 0+1 and 1+1 are the same as it is with the $7 and $100 prizes... Of course by "like" I mean find absolutely stupid.

                  Even with YET AGAIN screwing with things, Powerball will STILL fail to get that record breaking jackpot that was promised when they jacked up the odds the last time while MegaMillions did nothing. This experiment will also fail and they'll be right back tinkering with the game again in another couple years. Roll Eyes

                  Instead of be putting down a couple bucks when the JP's cash option gets to my usual "play amount" (about 45M cash) before I buy a ticket or two I'm going to be waiting for the JP to be around 100M cash before I even consider tossing in my two bucks.

                  You can't predict random.

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                    Ky Floyd,

                    Some day you'll realize your bs can be oh so easily disproved just by going to the sources you are trying to skew the data of. Nice attempted save.

                    truecritic,

                    Floyd's statement wasn't that most of the people who won a jackpot in 2011 had belonged to a group, his statement was that 2/3 of the 2011 jackpot wins were group wins.

                    I'm with Ridge, 8 of 12 does not = 2/3. Floyd is just doing a huge spin attempt to prove he wasn't wrong.

                    He went on to tell us that in most years 90% of the jackposts go to groups. Just go to the PB website, it's all there, and in no year is it anywhere c.ose to 90%.

                    I'm sure Floyd had a grand time at the 1994 World Series, I'm thinking maybe you did to.

                    "Floyd's statement wasn't that most of the people who won a jackpot in 2011 had belonged to a group, his statement was that 2/3 of the 2011 jackpot wins were group wins."

                    You really are a moron, arent you? Maybe you were late to the 1989 world series and a freeway fell on your head? I've got no confidence that you could go back and find the post you didn't understand, so here it is again. If you print it out and take it down to the elementary school during recess maybe a 5th grader will be nice enough to explain it to you.

                    "It hardly takes a rocket scientist to figure out that if you're in a group of 5 and everybody plays $1 you're 5 times as likely to win a jackpot as you are playing $1 all by yourself. To anyone who actually pays attention the statistics show that more than 2/3 of the people who claimed a powerball jackpot in 2011 did so as a result of playing in a group. Some years it's over 90%. As a simple matter of probability playing in a pool very clearly makes you more likely to win."

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                      You say there were 8 individuals who won jackpots and 4 groups that won jackpots in 2011.

                      And from that you say you were overwhelmingly more likely to win a jackpot if you were in a group?

                      The number of people in the groups is irrelevant, we're talking about winning jackpots. Doesn't matter if there were thousands in the groups. 

                      There were 12 jackpots won. Eight were won by individuals, four were won by groups.

                      That's a 2 to 1 advantage for individuals over groups where I went to school.

                      K-Y Jelly Floyd will dispute this, naturally, because it's not the way he wants it to be.

                      But that's the way it is nonetheless

                      I dispute it because I went to a better school and/or was more able to understand what was taught.

                      You'd be right if we were talking about the chances of a jackpot being claimed by an individual vs the chances of being claimed by a group. I'm counting the couples and families (and the 2 unknowns) as individuals, even though multiple family members may have bought tickets, so the 2010 results show that 9 of the 12 jackpots were claimed by individuals. 

                      Having gotten more out of my education than you did, I recognize that we're discussing something different. We're discussing the chances of people claiming a jackpot by playing individually vs the chances of people claiming a jackpot by playing in a group. Playing in groups resulted in 25 people who claimed jackpots. Playing individually resulted in 9 people who claimed jackpots. 25/34 = 73.5%. That's nearly a 3 to 1 advantage for people playing in groups where most people went to school.

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                        I dispute it because I went to a better school and/or was more able to understand what was taught.

                        You'd be right if we were talking about the chances of a jackpot being claimed by an individual vs the chances of being claimed by a group. I'm counting the couples and families (and the 2 unknowns) as individuals, even though multiple family members may have bought tickets, so the 2010 results show that 9 of the 12 jackpots were claimed by individuals. 

                        Having gotten more out of my education than you did, I recognize that we're discussing something different. We're discussing the chances of people claiming a jackpot by playing individually vs the chances of people claiming a jackpot by playing in a group. Playing in groups resulted in 25 people who claimed jackpots. Playing individually resulted in 9 people who claimed jackpots. 25/34 = 73.5%. That's nearly a 3 to 1 advantage for people playing in groups where most people went to school.

                        Apples and oranges, floydie.

                        Those people in the groups didn't each win jackpots.

                        You can't compare the two.

                        Individuals win jackpots more often than groups do.

                        Period.


                                                                     
                                             
                                                                 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                                                                                                                           

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