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# A different look at Pick 3 and pick 4

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 Posted: August 16, 2011, 2:50 pm - IP Logged

I've been backtesting with subtracting totals and projecting pairs for the next draws. From the draws for NM a couple of weeks ago. I make a chart of the # drawn, mirrors and totals.  This can be used for pick 3 and pick 4.

# drawn            mirror                  total

842                   397                      157

686                   131                      313

386                   831                      613

411                   966                      588

344                   899                      655

255                   700                      744

I've been subtracing totals to see what falls in the next 2 or 3 draws and I found some positive results.  The 3rd and fourth sets of numbers from the top in the total column subtracted gives:

613

-   588

=   135

Now I take 999-135 and get 864.   Pairs from that ( 86,84 )were in the next 2 results of 686 and 842.  And, the last 2 sets of # (655-744) in the totals column if subtracted gives 911.  Again, 999-911 =088.  Take the mirror of zero  from the 088 and you get 588 which is the total of the next draw!  To get the result 411 just take the total 999-588=411.   If I was better at excel I would put it in a program.

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I've been backtesting with subtracting totals and projecting pairs for the next draws. From the draws for NM a couple of weeks ago. I make a chart of the # drawn, mirrors and totals.  This can be used for pick 3 and pick 4.

# drawn            mirror                  total

842                   397                      157

686                   131                      313

386                   831                      613

411                   966                      588

344                   899                      655

255                   700                      744

I've been subtracing totals to see what falls in the next 2 or 3 draws and I found some positive results.  The 3rd and fourth sets of numbers from the top in the total column subtracted gives:

613

-   588

=   135

Now I take 999-135 and get 864.   Pairs from that ( 86,84 )were in the next 2 results of 686 and 842.  And, the last 2 sets of # (655-744) in the totals column if subtracted gives 911.  Again, 999-911 =088.  Take the mirror of zero  from the 088 and you get 588 which is the total of the next draw!  To get the result 411 just take the total 999-588=411.   If I was better at excel I would put it in a program.

Wow lakerben, that was a mouthful, short and sweet, and i am going to try it for ga and see what happens! Thanks for posting this. I went to highschool in Albuquerque. New mexico is rich in flavor and mystisicm.....Miss my red and green chilli, they dont know about that out here!. LOL

DG

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What date are you starting with to get your nos that your working with?

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Wow lakerben, that was a mouthful, short and sweet, and i am going to try it for ga and see what happens! Thanks for posting this. I went to highschool in Albuquerque. New mexico is rich in flavor and mystisicm.....Miss my red and green chilli, they dont know about that out here!. LOL

DG

What school?  What a small world!  Well the chili is going to get expensive because of the drought .  My late father was the best posole cook this side of the Sandias.

We have also had a lot of fires this year.  We are 3 inches below the normal of rain,but may get at least one inch tonight.  I don't know when you were here last but its gotten a lot bigger.   Yes , they deliver red/green as far as Oklahoma City.  I found some in a local grocery store (they called it peppers), back in the 90's when I was TDY for weeks at a time.  I went back to the apartment I was staying at and made some green chili stew!  A couple of cold ones and I thought i was back home .

As far as this method I'm constantly trying different things.  There are many ways to find hits by using the chart.   Some states have hits in the mirror section with the pick 4 and pick 3 and some in the total section.  I'm even using the cos and sin function with the totals.

Peace!

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 Posted: August 17, 2011, 10:06 pm - IP Logged

What date are you starting with to get your nos that your working with?

In the example I went back 2 weeks.  However, you can start from the most recent and work from there.  Also, look at the totals and see if a hit is there vertically or on a diagonol.

Example , sometimes you'll see this: a 341 or 345 557 569 358 will hit .  The subtraction method works for NM , but you can also try adding the last two totals or the ones previous to that.

Totals

356

459

178

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What school?  What a small world!  Well the chili is going to get expensive because of the drought .  My late father was the best posole cook this side of the Sandias.

We have also had a lot of fires this year.  We are 3 inches below the normal of rain,but may get at least one inch tonight.  I don't know when you were here last but its gotten a lot bigger.   Yes , they deliver red/green as far as Oklahoma City.  I found some in a local grocery store (they called it peppers), back in the 90's when I was TDY for weeks at a time.  I went back to the apartment I was staying at and made some green chili stew!  A couple of cold ones and I thought i was back home .

As far as this method I'm constantly trying different things.  There are many ways to find hits by using the chart.   Some states have hits in the mirror section with the pick 4 and pick 3 and some in the total section.  I'm even using the cos and sin function with the totals.

Peace!

I used to love the Hatch Chilies when I was out that way. Roasted.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

--Edmund Burke

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Hello,

Could you please tell me how you're getting the totals for the both columns? I'm using lottery math, and I'm not getting the same results.

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Hello,

Could you please tell me how you're getting the totals for the both columns? I'm using lottery math, and I'm not getting the same results.

To get the total just use 999- the number.

example:

999

-  567

=   432

Mirrors convert the numbers to :   0=5, 1=6, 2=7, 3=8, 4=9.

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I used to love the Hatch Chilies when I was out that way. Roasted.

I'll  probably have to start winning more money to buy the chili now that the drought has affected the size of the crop.

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 Posted: August 19, 2011, 9:37 am - IP Logged

I've been backtesting with subtracting totals and projecting pairs for the next draws. From the draws for NM a couple of weeks ago. I make a chart of the # drawn, mirrors and totals.  This can be used for pick 3 and pick 4.

# drawn            mirror                  total

842                   397                      157

686                   131                      313

386                   831                      613

411                   966                      588

344                   899                      655

255                   700                      744

I've been subtracing totals to see what falls in the next 2 or 3 draws and I found some positive results.  The 3rd and fourth sets of numbers from the top in the total column subtracted gives:

613

-   588

=   135

Now I take 999-135 and get 864.   Pairs from that ( 86,84 )were in the next 2 results of 686 and 842.  And, the last 2 sets of # (655-744) in the totals column if subtracted gives 911.  Again, 999-911 =088.  Take the mirror of zero  from the 088 and you get 588 which is the total of the next draw!  To get the result 411 just take the total 999-588=411.   If I was better at excel I would put it in a program.

hey lakerben.                        613-588= 25     how are you getting 135?    .

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hey lakerben.                        613-588= 25     how are you getting 135?    .

he is subtracting by lottery math and not real math.  You dont borrow...so the 1 = 11 and minus 8 gives you 3.

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Lottery math, not regular  math.

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I'm still experimenting with the calculator.  I took the total 744 and used the calculator to take the ln of each digit indivdually and multiplied together.  In other words:

ln (7*ln(4*ln(4 = 2.484114699 .  Breaking up into groups of 3 :  248 411 469 .  The 411 hit 2 draws later.  You can use the natural logrithm table or the calculator.

I have to experiment more with pick 4.  Last night I added the ln of each digit for pick 4 , and the results were promising.

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he is subtracting by lottery math and not real math.  You dont borrow...so the 1 = 11 and minus 8 gives you 3.

Thanks atoz, lakerb guess i didnt have my good eye open

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Thanks atoz, lakerb guess i didnt have my good eye open

No problema patth.  Keep winning!

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