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Quote: Originally posted by Oso Grande on Feb 26, 2013
rcbbuckeye likes the pick 4. He would be very happy if you could help him win
some money with it.
I will amend a statement made about the AorN-- originally my researched showed
not much difference in odd even mix of numbers. A quick glance at the last 6 or 7
jackpot winners shows odd numbers prevail. One of the last couple had 8 or 9 odd
numbers.
By the way whats with the term jackpot. Did jack have a pot that was filled with
gold or something everyone wanted to win?
Good one Oso LOL I hear everytime Jack ran to find the pot it moved on him.
As far as the Pick 4 there are actually only 55 "sets" of 2 digit numbers. 5 Sets are Double Odd and 5 Sets are Double Even.
Just like in the Pick 3 where there are10 combinations of 3 different Odd Digits or 3 different Even digits there are the same number of 10 when it comes to 2 digit all Odd or 2 digit all Even. This accounts for 30 of the possible 55.
The other 25 are combinations with 1 Odd and 1 Even and they can be written either way. If you count them twice for EXACT and reverse the 2 digit Odd and Even you add 45 more "sets" for the makeup of 4 digits.
I prefer to look at it as 50 sets and just figure out which way the numbers flip or flop.
I haven't looked at a Repeat rate or even a Doubles rate but with only 10 doubles I would think that frequency would be low.
22 times the 4 digits have been 2 Odd/2 Even in the last 70 draws. 7 times they have been ALL EVEN......Never been ALL ODD.
The rest of the draws (26) have been half Odd draws and half Even draws (1-3 and 3-1)
That's about all I know right now without further analysis to see how long a digit goes before it redraws like in the Pick 3.
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BTW I didn't do too bad for a first time on the Pick 4 today. Misread my Repeat chart for the 1st pair and it was 86 and I had 87. The last pair I had in my choices but went with the wrong one and can't even remember now "why" I did it lol
Choices were 12 14 16 and I went with the 12 and the 16 played.
Was right in that it would be either a 50'50 or a 1-3 and it had 1 Odd/3 Even.
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I went back much further then just couple of weeks. You get a better picture and idea of what is going on.
I am treating the Front and Back Pair like tracking Doubles in the Pick 3. Using my software with a constant "0" and the two digits that draw. Same principle as just tracking the 2 digits that double in the Pick 3 and if you get the 2 yu just Combo them both ways.
I know a lot of people say the Pick 4 is hard but I am actually seeing some promise. For 50 cent Straight you can get $2500
There should be that many variations if you can get the combinations down to 4 1st and 4 2ne. Even play 10 at 50 cents a piece is only $10.
In the Day Draw since the first of the year there has been only 6 times that 2nd and 3rd position were the same digits.
There has been about 13 times that they both were Even and I think 7 times they were both Odd. This is only 20 out of 77 draws. So it appears the 2nd and 3rd digits would be either EO or OE. So, when you get your front and back pairs chosen you just make sure that 2 EVEN or 2 ODD digits are the 2 and 3rd digits.
For Daily tomorrow I have come up with 11 12 22 27 for the 1st Pair
00 08 09 79 for the 2nd Pair.
The only combinations to work would be a 50/50 or a PURE. Wouldn't use the 2200 though because it's never had Double Doubles. Would use the 22 with 08 or the 00 with 08
0008 0080 2208 2280 1179 1197 1290 2109 2709 7290
This covers PURES both Even and Odd (even though Day hasn't had a PURE ODD yet) and the 50/50 Alpha Split.
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Quote: Originally posted by Oso Grande on Feb 26, 2013
I just looked at pick 4 and since Fe 9th there have been 8
draws with doubles--or the same number twice like 4 2 8 2.
That happened in both night and day draws--so 16 doubles.
PLUS 2 times the same number has shown up 3 times
8 4 4 4 and 0500.
The reason I looked was cause I was thinking if 31% (22/70)
of the draws have 2 odd and 2 even then that would be
place to concentrate. If you can narrow down possible
numbers maybe 10 different sets of numbers could
give a good chance to win when the draw is 2 odd 2 even.
Being me I would like to get it down to 4 or less--just cause
I'm not much of a gambler.
DUH.....that is 47 draws and not 70. Has been over 70 days since the first of the year but I didn't subtract the Sundays of No draw. Still should be higher then 47 but that is all my database is showing.
That would raise the % rate of 50/50 being higher then originally thought. Much higher then 31%
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I don't have my laptop up and running just yet and it has all my All or Nothing files. When I do get the new power supply I will have nearly 2 weeks of work to update.
Most of the time the 1-2-3-4 will come in the 1st. Rarely the 5 or the 6.
The 12th numbers is usually 23 or 24.
Watch the 12's. That means the 1st we vs the 2nd 12 digits. A lot of the time they split 5/7 or 7/5. More sol then a 50/50 split where 6 numbers come from 1st 12 and 6 from 2nd 12.
Also watch the Alphal It doesn't always have 6/6. Lot of the time it goes 5/7 or 7/5
Usually numbers from all denominations and rows. If the 20's don't appear the 19 is usually the last number.
Take the last 35 games and count the number of times a number has appeared in a specific position...i.e 1st, 2n, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc....to 12.th.
You will see that each position has a range of what numbers appear in that position and what numbers appear the most often.
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Quote: Originally posted by Oso Grande on Feb 26, 2013
A further look at Pick 4 suggests it is almost impossible to get an edge.
I'm going to go to an Indian reservation for a week and smoke the piece
pipe and dream of winning numbers. I will let you guys know what I get
Maybe front pair back pair would be easier. The odds chart says 1:100
I looked pretty hard at playing pairs. Problem with playing for pair hits is that the payout is too low to really make any profit. You're doing well to maybe break even...maybe. When I play D4, I like to play $4 or $5 straight for a big score. Once in a great while I'll throw an extra buck at boxed also, but usually just straight. One hit will knock some debt off my monthly budget. The 10000 to 1 odds is what keeps me interested.
I don't do a lot of fancy work with the numbers, I try to figure which numbers might repeat from the previous draw, or a couple draws back.
I don't know, I kinda quit trying to find that "holy grail" system on this game, or any of them. But if you guys find something, I'm all ears. I know there are a lot smarter people out there than me. LOL.
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hey rc-I'm with ya, tried pairs for a bit...my problem was that i usually got them backwards, if I thought it would be 46 front, it would go 64 front or back lol....oh well, thanks to everyone else for the a/n help, and clipper will try and give your 35 draw rules a try this weekend...today going with this set...good luck all, if anyone sees a problem with it let me know
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Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Feb 27, 2013
I looked pretty hard at playing pairs. Problem with playing for pair hits is that the payout is too low to really make any profit. You're doing well to maybe break even...maybe. When I play D4, I like to play $4 or $5 straight for a big score. Once in a great while I'll throw an extra buck at boxed also, but usually just straight. One hit will knock some debt off my monthly budget. The 10000 to 1 odds is what keeps me interested.
I don't do a lot of fancy work with the numbers, I try to figure which numbers might repeat from the previous draw, or a couple draws back.
I don't know, I kinda quit trying to find that "holy grail" system on this game, or any of them. But if you guys find something, I'm all ears. I know there are a lot smarter people out there than me. LOL.
rcbbuckeye - check out the Pick 4 Texas Board. I posted a lot of information there about the breakdown of the Pick 4. I think it order to play the numbers you have to first understand what has gone down and what hasn't.
For instance the Day Draw has never had 4 digits that were all Odd since 1-1-2013. There have only been about 6 times that digits 2 and 3 have been the same. Also the 2nd and 3rd digits are more often 1 O and 1 E then two of the same.
The 4 digits have been 50/50 on alpha 22 times out of the last 47 draws. Only 7 times have they been ALL EVEN.
Doubles have only happened 5 times in the Day Draw and 6 times in the Night Draw.
The rest of the time they are either 1/3 or 3/1. It's been 6 draws in the Day since we have had a 50/50 or an All Even so it is due.
There are onlyl 55 pairs in the 10 digits.
Repeat rate from a digit in each pair is nearly 50% from draw to draw. I haven't looked to see how many times a digit repeats from pair to pair at the same time though.
It's about a 50/50 for both pairs whether a digit will redraw before it gets 5+ draws out from last time drawn. Right now on the Pick 3 it is running a little over 50% that a digit will come from 5+ out instead of from within the last 4 draws.
Once you are armed with this information you can make decisions without stressing over whether it will be a double or not, 2 EVEN, 2 ODD, 1 Each, what order to play the digits you do come up with.
The one thing that will slow you down is trying to track pairs and figure out what 2 digits play with what 2 digits. Just look for the digits that will be in the first pair, then the 2nd pair and work them together.
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OSO - I got the power supply in but it is the wrong wattage :( Did't know they produoced the in different wattage and the one I bought they said could be used with the computer model I have. Going to have to send it back and reorder one that will work.