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POLL 1 of 3: Computerized drawings vs. ball drawings
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rainbow lake Canada Member #25525 November 2, 2005 6252 Posts Online
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| Posted: September 13, 2007, 8:50 am - IP Logged |
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I know there have been many polls like this before, but let's do a fresh poll, to find out what the current feelings of lottery players are. I'd appreciate as much participation as possible, no matter what your viewpoint is. Please indicate your preference as to what type of lottery drawings your prefer — - Computerized drawings, which use a computer system to generate random numbers. Some computerized states show the results in an animated cartoon sequence, and other computerized states have dropped television productions.
- Mechanical ball drawings, which use a bin or tub to mix numbered ping pong balls or hard rubber balls, and from which the winning numbers are drawn. Most ball drawings are broadcast on television live or taped and shown later.
Enter one choice or the other, even if you are swayed ever so slightly one way or the other. You may enter a comment as well, but it is optional. Also, please participate in the other two polls posted. POLL 1 of 3: Computerized drawings vs. ball drawings You are currently viewing this poll POLL 2 of 3: Switching to computerized drawings http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/161744 POLL 3 of 3: Switching to mechanical ball drawings http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/161743 Has anyone proved that one is more/less predictable than the other? or is it a trust issue? Secret to $uccess=Law of Attraction
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New Member South Bend, IN United States Member #55601 September 13, 2007 1 Posts Offline
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| Posted: September 13, 2007, 10:03 am - IP Logged |
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I am an Indiana resident who has played our state lottery since it's inception. We used to have a televised drawing, but no more. I was informed a few weeks ago that we had gone to the computerized drawing. Though I'm not 100% sure of this, it seems to make sense. Indiana's lotto has never exceeded the $20 million dollar range, if I'm not mistaken, and now we're posting a $47 million jackpot. With the ball drawing the winning numbers were readily available, though winning tickets were not announced until the following day, presumably because the system took overnight to scan for winning tickets. So, I'm wondering, if the drawing is computerized, it could be delayed until all the bets were in. Then the computer could choose from all the leftover combinations that weren't played, and nobody would hit the jackpot. Well, as with all lotteries, when no one hits the jackpot grows, people play more for the larger jackpot, and the state rakes in even bigger profits. Indiana's lotto increases only $500,000 per drawing, no matter what the jackpot or how much more sales are generated. So they are pocketing a fortune the past 40-some weeks. With this much money coming in, they don't want a winner! Not to mention the fact that our governor is trying to contract the lotto to some investor. ( The same way he did our toll road ). Could it be the state is trying to impress this investor with the possibilities of HUGE profits? Or do they just intend to squeeze us for as long as they can? Anyway, I smell a rat........
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rainbow lake Canada Member #25525 November 2, 2005 6252 Posts Online
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| Posted: September 13, 2007, 10:27 pm - IP Logged |
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I am an Indiana resident who has played our state lottery since it's inception. We used to have a televised drawing, but no more. I was informed a few weeks ago that we had gone to the computerized drawing. Though I'm not 100% sure of this, it seems to make sense. Indiana's lotto has never exceeded the $20 million dollar range, if I'm not mistaken, and now we're posting a $47 million jackpot. With the ball drawing the winning numbers were readily available, though winning tickets were not announced until the following day, presumably because the system took overnight to scan for winning tickets. So, I'm wondering, if the drawing is computerized, it could be delayed until all the bets were in. Then the computer could choose from all the leftover combinations that weren't played, and nobody would hit the jackpot. Well, as with all lotteries, when no one hits the jackpot grows, people play more for the larger jackpot, and the state rakes in even bigger profits. Indiana's lotto increases only $500,000 per drawing, no matter what the jackpot or how much more sales are generated. So they are pocketing a fortune the past 40-some weeks. With this much money coming in, they don't want a winner! Not to mention the fact that our governor is trying to contract the lotto to some investor. ( The same way he did our toll road ). Could it be the state is trying to impress this investor with the possibilities of HUGE profits? Or do they just intend to squeeze us for as long as they can? Anyway, I smell a rat........ We hav 50% cp drawings in W.C The systems are stand alone ( the tickets sold) The number drawn 2 machines not tied in together. Secret to $uccess=Law of Attraction
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dover delaware United States Member #4545 April 26, 2004 319 Posts Offline
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| Posted: September 13, 2007, 10:44 pm - IP Logged |
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i for one hate computerized drawings..delaware has computerized drawings and they cheat so badly it is pitiful..why i still play i will never know..at least when they had the ball drawings you had a half a chance ..not so with computerized drawaings..delaware cheats and cheats...it is a sorry state of affairs when a state does that...oh well..there time will come...lesonook
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California United States Member #49303 January 11, 2007 20 Posts Offline
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| Posted: September 23, 2007, 9:20 am - IP Logged |
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I’ll vote in favor of the computerized draws due to the theory (or just my belief) that the random number generator is not completely random and the occasional patterns can be tracked for profit. California’s Fantasy 5 used to be mechanical balls in the hopper though they switched to computerized at some point in ’88. Here’s an interesting test when looking at the data sets for the early mechanical and later computer draw methods. I built a database table that has the frequency of the 39 numbers, where each day it looks at the last 6 draws and gets the count for each. Between 9/8/07 and 9/3/07, the 32 was picked 5 times in six draws in CA’s F5. I’ve noticed other predictable trends when that (5/6) happens so I ran a query against the total dataset going back to ’92. I found that in the era of computerized draws, the machine had almost twice the number of instances of a number hitting 5 times in 6 draws. An example where it may have been rigged: on 11/25/00 all 5 numbers in CA’s F5 repeated from 10 draws back (11/15/00) and something like 26 or 28 people matched all 5 numbers. That made me wonder if there may have been an inside job or some kind of fix. Anyone in California can verify the 11/15/00 and 11/25/00 "anomaly" by asking the retailer for a printout.
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New Member Indiana United States Member #54423 July 28, 2007 3 Posts Offline
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| Posted: September 23, 2007, 11:48 am - IP Logged |
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We hav 50% cp drawings in W.C The systems are stand alone ( the tickets sold) The number drawn 2 machines not tied in together. I agree with you on this matter. The hoosier lottery is fixed. The machine picks all the numbers nobody picks and then picks the winning numbers from that list. As I said in a comment I made maybe the Indiana Attorney General needs to look this problem very hard and in great depth. By 10/21/07 the jackpot will have gone a year w/o being hit. Way too long in my opinion. Go back too the ping pong balls and live televised drawings.
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Jefferson City, MO United States Member #55720 September 20, 2007 67 Posts Offline
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| Posted: September 26, 2007, 9:50 am - IP Logged |
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Drawing machines aren't connected to sales computers. Most of the time, sales are handled by a contractor. Captain Lotto "Every day is a good day!"
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New Member Indiana United States Member #54423 July 28, 2007 3 Posts Offline
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| Posted: September 26, 2007, 6:41 pm - IP Logged |
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You might want to believe that but I disagree with you. It has been (as of 10/21/07) almost A year that the IN lotto has been hit. Even with the odds that the lotto has it should been hit two or three time in that period ,maybe even more. I haven't done any research on the other online games exclusive to IN only But I bet my last lotto $ they haven't been hit as frequently as they were hit before the computer started picking the winning numbers. As you said in your comments most of the time, sales are handled by a contractor. Just suppose the contractor also controls and programs the drawing computers and they are networked to each other. Thanks for your comments.
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Viva La Chance! Rockville, MD. United States Member #44542 July 30, 2006 1474 Posts Offline
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| Posted: September 26, 2007, 7:03 pm - IP Logged |
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Drawing machines aren't connected to sales computers. Most of the time, sales are handled by a contractor. Most of the time? Theory or fact? Balls are definitely not connected to the sales database, you see there is no network card or RJ45 connector hooked to the mechanical ball machine. What is your conceptual continuity? __________________________________________________
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New Member New York/Los Angeles United States Member #55964 October 5, 2007 8 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 5, 2007, 1:12 pm - IP Logged |
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Call me old fashion, but this woman just love balls.
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