All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | Home -> Forums -> Lottery Discussion -> Vtrac search engine on Lottery Post Pennsylvania United States Member #74607 May 2, 2009 10250 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 8, 2010, 2:15 am - IP Logged | |
Delta Draw - You have blown the original meaning and purpose of this poll way out of proportion. You are on a witch hunt for whatever reason...maybe it floats your boat. You've single handedly severed all ties to any open, meaningful communications with - definately calabs and quite possibly anyone else who would have the patience or desire to explain a vtracs search engine benefit to one who is demeaning, demanding and derogatory. You would either use it or not. There is no secret to be revealed...there is no sales pitch...there is nothing more than something calabs considered a useful tool for the type of processing he does...he works with vtracs...and wanted an idea of how others would react to such a tool...would they use it? Do they even know what vtracs are? Do they think it would be the greatest gift of all? Don't they care? Would it aide them in their daily workouts? You don't by chance carry this extreme behavior into your everyday life, do you? You've reduced yourself to taunting, baiting and downright pestering. Who, but you, pushed this to a new level? One where calabs - if it were up to you - would be hung out to dry for suggesting such a thing. You ask HOW...I ask WHY? Why do you need to know the ins and outs of a system in its 'infancy' - it's a thought, and idea, it's not even on the road...as far as we all know or actually even need to know right now..isn't that between Todd and calabs?? Someone - forgive me for not taking names - was up on things enough to provide a link to a previous thread on the subject...did you read it? Seems there was interest in it..Do you think Todd was just being polite? Hard knocks? What does that have to do with the price of rice in China or a Platinum membership I don't understand your motive in refusing to post your preference one way or the other and be done with it. There is no lesson here (well concerning vtracs anyway) there is no vtracs 101 and calabs isn't professor to you or anyone else. WHY do you think you have to press for a HOW at this point? I can't help but think that your main motive is you are concerned that your fee will increase because of something you won't use or don't understand...either that or you didn't care for calabs latest webcam shot.  Look at it this way - A search engine tool would be beneficial to discover which vtracs have not appeared in a specified time period. What I understand the idea to be is have a search feature in place to do much of the same thing the deflate tool does now. There you can set it to bring up numbers that have NOT hit. Get it? A thousand pardons if I don't understand calabs...but I do believe this is what you are saying. I put myself out on a limb here and a thousand whacks with a wet noodle if I opened Pandora's box.. Time will tell... Where - pray tell - is the harm in that desire? To see you press for all the answers, direction, instruction, validation....is putting the cart before horse, wouldn't you say? I didn't see an announcement from Todd stating if a tool was to be in place..you will be charged per use and double charged if you don't understand it, yet dare to tinker with it.  Chill out...relax....take a break. It's not even at blueprint stage...or hey, maybe it is! Lookout! Calabs purpose was to collect some information on how such a tool would or would not interest or benefit the mob...uh, the members. | | |
United States Member #84534 December 29, 2009 146 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 8, 2010, 3:23 am - IP Logged | |
I for one, have learned so many things since i joined this site!! I also appreciate members such as Calabs, Lotterybraker, Marcie & anyone else that takes the time 2 explain things like VTRACS & posting their predictions & helping w/ dreams & etc. I don't know why this have gotten so ugly, but don't stop teaching me. Some of u guys have been here 4 yrs!! U probably even talk on the phone, so I can understand the relationship u might have & taking up 4 each other!! What I'm trying 2 say is...................... Play-girl Appreciates U!!!!!!  | | |
United States Member #82372 October 31, 2009 856 Posts Offline
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DR65: Here is the question. There is a condition. It is phrased in a way that asks if one is willing to pay for it. What business is it of his what anyone is willing to pay for? BTW he indicates he has resources now for solutions and Maloney uses what is available currently on the site. If calabs is impatient for a delivery, this poll is a stab at the site owner who is as far as I know the only one who can ask what his clients do or do not want and are willing to pay for. Who’s hand is on the tiller? "Would you use vtrac search engine, and would you be will to become a platinum member to use it?" I voted after asking an honest question Calabs still side steps. The closed case example is baloney. This is not personal, just business. Calabs has no say in what anyone is willing to pay for. If it was an advert, it was a lousy attempt. If it was to motivate the site owner, it is dirty tactics against him. Make it what you will, VAGUE answers of how this would help make better and faster numerical decisions is BS. I can be vague too, “the answer is right in front of you, look at it, study it, take the time and you should see what I see (but i will not tell you). If you don’t see what I see, you have not tried hard enough.” I have heard that one several times here and there- it’s all smoke and mirrors. “ Oh look such and such Vtrac just hit! I knew it would happen! See, I was right!” This kind of dialog belongs in the lunacy threads. This is a selfish poll. Calabs wants to sway the site owner to do something he wants. Calab wants potential platinum members to bite NOW (would you,.... be willing to pay?). The implied benefit to the site owner is more platinum memberships are sold. It is very clear the site owner has his own marketing plans, one being a very groundbreaking published work. It’s winter time. Maybe the site owner needs a well earned break, maybe he doesn’t. Calabs as far as I know is not the marketing buzzsaw of LP. This kind of poll is the business of the site owner, if he thinks it needs a poll. I honestly do not think the site owner would have asked,… “It would be nice, but a platinum member to use it?” |
What the heck does that mean? Sorry Laverne, it just does not make sense. Ugly thread? The ugly is toying with membership polls to motivate the site owner and get new platinum members all excited for something they might anticipate will be deliverd in membership. Get real! | | |
New Jersey United States Member #27411 November 26, 2005 26758 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 8, 2010, 12:54 pm - IP Logged | |
I for one, have learned so many things since i joined this site!! I also appreciate members such as Calabs, Lotterybraker, Marcie & anyone else that takes the time 2 explain things like VTRACS & posting their predictions & helping w/ dreams & etc. I don't know why this have gotten so ugly, but don't stop teaching me. Some of u guys have been here 4 yrs!! U probably even talk on the phone, so I can understand the relationship u might have & taking up 4 each other!! What I'm trying 2 say is...................... Play-girl Appreciates U!!!!!!  Thank you Play-girl....!! That is so sweet of you to say. I wish you the best of luck!! | | |
United States Member #47874 November 4, 2006 3910 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 8, 2010, 1:41 pm - IP Logged | |
I for one, have learned so many things since i joined this site!! I also appreciate members such as Calabs, Lotterybraker, Marcie & anyone else that takes the time 2 explain things like VTRACS & posting their predictions & helping w/ dreams & etc. I don't know why this have gotten so ugly, but don't stop teaching me. Some of u guys have been here 4 yrs!! U probably even talk on the phone, so I can understand the relationship u might have & taking up 4 each other!! What I'm trying 2 say is...................... Play-girl Appreciates U!!!!!!  You also believe in luck right Play-girl..because that's what it is is luck..Big old luck.. | | |
United States Member #82372 October 31, 2009 856 Posts Offline
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V134 did hit in two states on this day of the 8th.   I myself played the V455.    in WA using several new methods. Anything longer than two months of history is a waste of time. Dates of past occurrences have no significant correlation for repeats. Everything one needs for vtrac results in a win from LP is available now. As Laverne points out, is up to you to make your own conclusions as you study vtracs. That is about as much as you need to know, the rest is up to you. I will share some pointers in the idiots thread. BTW, I did not play all the vtrac combinations for v455. I did not use a program or spreadsheet. I had spent about 10 minutes to do all the paperwork. I have many hours invested in myself daily to get to where I am, so be patient with yourself as you study. good luck with your games. Better yet, make wise decisions and toss luck out the door with superstitions. Events happen and will happen again. Luck has no influence on the next digits to be drawn. IMHO this poll was a farce. There was one earthquake between 4.0 and 5.0. in China and a whopper in Mexico today: 5.7! Many 5.0 +. | | |
New Jersey United States Member #27411 November 26, 2005 26758 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 9, 2010, 11:43 am - IP Logged | |
Thanks for the link Raven....this occurred while I was away for a while. Based on Todd's comment, he's still planning on incorporating the vtrac search engine at LP. Well, if I was Excel savvy, I guess it could! lol I can do basic stuff with Excel, but I'm no guru by any stretch!  | | |
Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 19729 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 9, 2010, 1:19 pm - IP Logged | |
V134 did hit in two states on this day of the 8th.   I myself played the V455.    in WA using several new methods. Anything longer than two months of history is a waste of time. Dates of past occurrences have no significant correlation for repeats. Everything one needs for vtrac results in a win from LP is available now. As Laverne points out, is up to you to make your own conclusions as you study vtracs. That is about as much as you need to know, the rest is up to you. I will share some pointers in the idiots thread. BTW, I did not play all the vtrac combinations for v455. I did not use a program or spreadsheet. I had spent about 10 minutes to do all the paperwork. I have many hours invested in myself daily to get to where I am, so be patient with yourself as you study. good luck with your games. Better yet, make wise decisions and toss luck out the door with superstitions. Events happen and will happen again. Luck has no influence on the next digits to be drawn. IMHO this poll was a farce. There was one earthquake between 4.0 and 5.0. in China and a whopper in Mexico today: 5.7! Many 5.0 +. I'm very confused as to why you think this poll was a farce. I think it makes sense. If your point is that you don't need it or don't want it, then that's your opinion, and you've expressed it. But to call it a "farce" is ... disingenuous in itself. Also, I have not read all your posts, but it seems to me you are still learning Vtracs. Why then would you make a statement like, "Anything longer than two months of history is a waste of time"? Obviously if you are learning a new system, you have no clue as to what the appropriate amount of history for that system should be. If you're dismissing every system that uses greater than 2 months of history, then you are being very narrow-minded. I can't see any reason to exclude anyone's ideas, unless you have already cornered the market on winning systems. So far I haven't seen anyone with that kind of track record. I am about half-way finished with writing the Vtracs Search Engine, but I have become so busy with various projects (such as my book), and my second book that will be available this week, that projects like this have gotten delayed. Eventually I will find the time, and hopefully it will meet everyone's needs. | | |
Pennsylvania United States Member #74607 May 2, 2009 10250 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 9, 2010, 4:45 pm - IP Logged | |
I'm very confused as to why you think this poll was a farce. I think it makes sense. If your point is that you don't need it or don't want it, then that's your opinion, and you've expressed it. But to call it a "farce" is ... disingenuous in itself. Also, I have not read all your posts, but it seems to me you are still learning Vtracs. Why then would you make a statement like, "Anything longer than two months of history is a waste of time"? Obviously if you are learning a new system, you have no clue as to what the appropriate amount of history for that system should be. If you're dismissing every system that uses greater than 2 months of history, then you are being very narrow-minded. I can't see any reason to exclude anyone's ideas, unless you have already cornered the market on winning systems. So far I haven't seen anyone with that kind of track record. I am about half-way finished with writing the Vtracs Search Engine, but I have become so busy with various projects (such as my book), and my second book that will be available this week, that projects like this have gotten delayed. Eventually I will find the time, and hopefully it will meet everyone's needs. I am pleased to announce that this in one of my smiles for today! And believe me, I've been smiling about various things practically all day... and something about locusts, if you can believe, actually made me laugh out loud.  I am happy to see you support systems using more than 2 months worth of history in your post. It is very important and extremely useful to have the tools at Lottery Post in place to search through years if one needs to do so. I know the update on the progress of a Vtracs search engine has made more than a few people happy. It will be a useful tool that will aid many members. Thank you Todd Thank you calabs | | |
United States Member #69671 January 5, 2009 1947 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 9, 2010, 4:52 pm - IP Logged | |
I too have to disagree with Delta Draw about the 2 month rule. I think that statement is illegitimate because I have my own system that no one in the world is using and it requires at least 14 months of draws. "Many Strategies|One System" | | |
United States Member #82372 October 31, 2009 856 Posts Offline
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I'm very confused as to why you think this poll was a farce. I think it makes sense. If your point is that you don't need it or don't want it, then that's your opinion, and you've expressed it. But to call it a "farce" is ... disingenuous in itself. Also, I have not read all your posts, but it seems to me you are still learning Vtracs. Why then would you make a statement like, "Anything longer than two months of history is a waste of time"? Obviously if you are learning a new system, you have no clue as to what the appropriate amount of history for that system should be. If you're dismissing every system that uses greater than 2 months of history, then you are being very narrow-minded. I can't see any reason to exclude anyone's ideas, unless you have already cornered the market on winning systems. So far I haven't seen anyone with that kind of track record. I am about half-way finished with writing the Vtracs Search Engine, but I have become so busy with various projects (such as my book), and my second book that will be available this week, that projects like this have gotten delayed. Eventually I will find the time, and hopefully it will meet everyone's needs. Very well. I inquired HOW as a new learner, any vtrac tool could help me pick numbers better and faster. Looking at a history is not the same as knowing how this tool would help me pick numbers better and faster. Glad to hear it’s in the works along with a new book, but the How is still evasive. Studying something is not the same as getting results. I take for granted the better and faster equates to wins and not just less time spent. The poll leads one to believe a desired economy of effort with some kind of results. I guess I just got lucky and it is a coincidence that in my nearsighted studies of vtracs, I get winning results. There is no way I could get results without a big history to study. I must accept that. I must conclude then there is no system to apply and I am only fooling myself with a coincidence. Shame on me, I am most embarrassed. It was not friendly of me to even question long standing members how. They are right, I need to figure this out on my own in anticipation of a new tool. Where do I begin? I don’t even think I have sufficient standing to even comment on the use of vtracs, let alone question how they are used. Any posts I make on their use has to be questionable; there is no way a neophyte could grasp the length, breadth and depth of a topic so soon. Thanks for setting me strait. Today is a break-though day. A true moment of clarity. Anyways, if these games became a game of skill they would be finished. Systems only allude to the idea that winning is more than luck and skill plays a significant role. Pure lottery insanity. I should not encourage that. Looking at my posts here honestly shows how a poison idea is destroying me. Time to call the gambling problem hotline. Now I must go and trade my imaginary wins for imaginary greenbacks and enjoy an imaginary chicken dinner. The idea of a working system has to be the height of lottery insanity, but it was fun while it lasted! I am enjoying a whole new moment of clarity against all odds: Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner! No, wait,.... I will have surf n' turf. Thanks for stopping by and a preemptive good luck to you on your new book! Maybe there will be something in it about Vtracs I can learn?! I hope, I hope, I hope! Delta Draw | | |
MD United States Member #1735 June 18, 2003 7059 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 9, 2010, 7:14 pm - IP Logged | |
Very well. I inquired HOW as a new learner, any vtrac tool could help me pick numbers better and faster. Looking at a history is not the same as knowing how this tool would help me pick numbers better and faster. Glad to hear it’s in the works along with a new book, but the How is still evasive. Studying something is not the same as getting results. I take for granted the better and faster equates to wins and not just less time spent. The poll leads one to believe a desired economy of effort with some kind of results. I guess I just got lucky and it is a coincidence that in my nearsighted studies of vtracs, I get winning results. There is no way I could get results without a big history to study. I must accept that. I must conclude then there is no system to apply and I am only fooling myself with a coincidence. Shame on me, I am most embarrassed. It was not friendly of me to even question long standing members how. They are right, I need to figure this out on my own in anticipation of a new tool. Where do I begin? I don’t even think I have sufficient standing to even comment on the use of vtracs, let alone question how they are used. Any posts I make on their use has to be questionable; there is no way a neophyte could grasp the length, breadth and depth of a topic so soon. Thanks for setting me strait. Today is a break-though day. A true moment of clarity. Anyways, if these games became a game of skill they would be finished. Systems only allude to the idea that winning is more than luck and skill plays a significant role. Pure lottery insanity. I should not encourage that. Looking at my posts here honestly shows how a poison idea is destroying me. Time to call the gambling problem hotline. Now I must go and trade my imaginary wins for imaginary greenbacks and enjoy an imaginary chicken dinner. The idea of a working system has to be the height of lottery insanity, but it was fun while it lasted! I am enjoying a whole new moment of clarity against all odds: Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner! No, wait,.... I will have surf n' turf. Thanks for stopping by and a preemptive good luck to you on your new book! Maybe there will be something in it about Vtracs I can learn?! I hope, I hope, I hope! Delta Draw tntea was one of the people that made Vtracks happen I don't know much about them but here is a link, Comments for "Vtracs lessons.. learn and win" http://www.lotterypost.com/blogentry/5949 Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!! | | |
New Jersey United States Member #27411 November 26, 2005 26758 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 10, 2010, 1:59 am - IP Logged | |
I'm very confused as to why you think this poll was a farce. I think it makes sense. If your point is that you don't need it or don't want it, then that's your opinion, and you've expressed it. But to call it a "farce" is ... disingenuous in itself. Also, I have not read all your posts, but it seems to me you are still learning Vtracs. Why then would you make a statement like, "Anything longer than two months of history is a waste of time"? Obviously if you are learning a new system, you have no clue as to what the appropriate amount of history for that system should be. If you're dismissing every system that uses greater than 2 months of history, then you are being very narrow-minded. I can't see any reason to exclude anyone's ideas, unless you have already cornered the market on winning systems. So far I haven't seen anyone with that kind of track record. I am about half-way finished with writing the Vtracs Search Engine, but I have become so busy with various projects (such as my book), and my second book that will be available this week, that projects like this have gotten delayed. Eventually I will find the time, and hopefully it will meet everyone's needs. Thanks Todd. It's great to know that the vtrac search engine is still in the works. Looking forward to when it is completed. | | |
United States Member #84534 December 29, 2009 146 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 10, 2010, 12:01 pm - IP Logged | |
(*Patiently Waiting On Todd 2 Complete The "VTRAC Search Engine!!"*) 
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New Jersey United States Member #27411 November 26, 2005 26758 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 10, 2010, 1:33 pm - IP Logged | |
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