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How do I prove my state lottery's CGNs are fixed?Prev TopicNext Topic
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If it is at all possible, lotteries may be rigged to provide one of two outcomes - either certain numbers played by those who do the rigging can be selected or the most popular numbers selected can be eliminated from the draw - and keep in mind that around 70% of all tickets purchased in any lottery will be quick picks. With the second possibility in mind data like this can be analyzed to eliminate certain numbers from non-QP selections to maximize the winning possibilities. Interesting thread - KUTGW.
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by johnph77 on Dec 14, 2007
If it is at all possible, lotteries may be rigged to provide one of two outcomes - either certain numbers played by those who do the rigging can be selected or the most popular numbers selected can be eliminated from the draw - and keep in mind that around 70% of all tickets purchased in any lottery will be quick picks. With the second possibility in mind data like this can be analyzed to eliminate certain numbers from non-QP selections to maximize the winning possibilities. Interesting thread - KUTGW.
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You've touched on a good point about Quick Picks. If it's possible to fix or rig Self Pick related CGN's, then the fixing or rigging of Quick Picks is just as susceptible and possible even more likely, given the fact that all terminals are connected to one central computer. Not necessarily connected to the same computer doing the number generation, but at least to the same organization that supplies it. Hypothetically speaking, of course.
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Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Dec 14, 2007
You've touched on a good point about Quick Picks. If it's possible to fix or rig Self Pick related CGN's, then the fixing or rigging of Quick Picks is just as susceptible and possible even more likely, given the fact that all terminals are connected to one central computer. Not necessarily connected to the same computer doing the number generation, but at least to the same organization that supplies it. Hypothetically speaking, of course.
"Not necessarily connected to the same computer doing the number generation, but at least to the same organization that supplies it."
If each terminal individually generated random QPs and when sales volume is high, there should be more duplicate tickets and have more drawings with multiple winners. Ohio started with a 50 cents ticket 6/40 lotto game in April 1983 and raised it to $1 tickets in November 1983. From then until the game ended in April 1987, it was rare to see only 1 winning ticket or more than 1 draw without a winner. There was one streak of 18 consecutive drawings with a jackpot winner and another streak with 54 jackpot winning tickets in 11 consecutive drawings.
When they ran the Super Lotto 6/44 game, it was rare to see more than 1 winner and see the jackpot being hit in consecutive drawings. Granted, the possible combinations went from 4 million to 7 million but it's possible they synchronized the terminals so there would fewer duplicate combinations.
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Dec 15, 2007
"Not necessarily connected to the same computer doing the number generation, but at least to the same organization that supplies it."
If each terminal individually generated random QPs and when sales volume is high, there should be more duplicate tickets and have more drawings with multiple winners. Ohio started with a 50 cents ticket 6/40 lotto game in April 1983 and raised it to $1 tickets in November 1983. From then until the game ended in April 1987, it was rare to see only 1 winning ticket or more than 1 draw without a winner. There was one streak of 18 consecutive drawings with a jackpot winner and another streak with 54 jackpot winning tickets in 11 consecutive drawings.
When they ran the Super Lotto 6/44 game, it was rare to see more than 1 winner and see the jackpot being hit in consecutive drawings. Granted, the possible combinations went from 4 million to 7 million but it's possible they synchronized the terminals so there would fewer duplicate combinations.
Within the same concept, but on a wider spectrum... your thinking is in the arena, but there are things going on outside it that need to be accounted for.
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I agree JADELottery there are things going on outside the drawing in order to bring about a certain fixed outcome. I have known this for years. In fact I can prove the lottery is rigged, unfortunately it will do me no good to post the 100% accurate detailed data on this site.
There is a part of me "the ego" that wants to be the first in the world to publicate it but I have been holding on to it for some time, maybe just waiting for the right moment I dont know?
But it is rigged, rigged in the sense that those who designed the lottery software that gives the 6 numbers have incorporated into it certain things to occure beyond chance. I know what those things are and can predict the outcome with incredible accuracy.
If you dont play and only keep track of the results you can hit the numbers more often than if you play. If you play you wont. Its a software that wont allow you to win.
In otherwords I hate to say it but as I told you before your graphs will do you know good in the sense of winning a lottery jackpot with them, but only prove an accuracy beyond chance or inaccuracy of normal luck in the drawing. Which i know for sure you have seen and attain some logical or illogical view, but are confused as to why it is occuring, thus causing you to try and prove that the lottery is rigged. But they will never allow a win to you, for the moment that you have it all figured out and go to play your system, the software that you are playing against will change one number so you cant win the jackpot, one number changed and you lose the jackpot. The most you will ever win is 5 right out of a 6/49 lotto.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you are barking up the wrong tree.
Your graphs are increadibly well thought out and designed but will not ever do you much good in attaining all 6 numbers on one line, niether will they ever help anyone attain all 6 numbers on one line. Its not that it wouldnt be nice, but it is NOT FATE that is running the lottery and i think you are starting to see this, more clearly each drawing, am I correct in saying you were first excited, then confused, now trying to prove the lottery is rigged. You final outcome or conclusion will be the latter. I can promise you that. Regardless you will not be able to do anything with your data but publicize it, unfortunately it will never gain you a lottery win larger than 5 numbers right in a 6/49 game.
Please pay attention to what I say next. This is the most important thing i could ever say to you.
There are those who will never ever accept that the lottery is rigged they will always point you in the direction of others who thought the lottery was rigged also, and somehow aid you in seeing that those people who say the lottery is fixed are nuts, lunitics if i may say and a little delusional in their mind to even think such a thing that the lottery could be rigged, they will point you to the IRS watches over these things with a fine tooth comb abd that monitors are in place to aid in the security of a fair and accurate and legal honest lottery drawing, they will point you to books and websites about other who thought the lottery was rigged and show you how that person who claimed the lottery was fixed was discarded as a nut. But I say to you, you are onto something big, but in the end it will prove to be fruitless. These so called people I speak of will never assist you in winning more than 4 numbers maximum with your system maybe 5 tops. It is because they can not under no condition accept that a lottery could be fixed in someway to garantee a certain fixed outcome before the drawing is held.
JADELottery have you ever known something but cant tell anyone? A secret?
I know something that I can not tell anyone! But this posting is enough clue for you to either accept or regect the truth.
The Lottery is NOT FATE! There is no such thing as FATE or destiny or luck when your dealing in a lottery drawing that is fixed prior to a drawing.
Sorry!
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JadeLottery, what I do see in the graphs and all the data is this;
They do seem to bring up suspision that it "the wisconsin lottery" could be fixed to a level of accuracy beyond normal suspision.
That being the case, you might wonder how or why you even or ever noticed what you noticed and put together the incredible data in the first place.
And what your true goal is now?
Is it to prove something to yourself? Or to win? Please dont say both it really is one more than the other.
That is my only question?
I'd be interested to hear which one it really is?
And if you do prove in some fashion that the lottery in wisconsin is rigged what do you plan to do with your incredible information? Reveal it to the masses? Or?
That would be even a bigger inquiry of mine.
I'd love to hear your answer on that one too.
Really I would. I think others would like to know what you plan on doing with your info also. I mean people who might tune into lottery post who have not joined yet too?
What is your goal JadeLottery? Is it to prove the lottery is rigged?
as far as your question is concerned you asked,
"How do I prove my state lottery's Computer Generated Numbers are fixed?"
My answer;
Learn all you can about computer software and how it operates, the technology that developed the computer generated system is from this planet. Once you know how it works and what it incorporates, lanquage, code, dates, time, past results ect. You will be closer to knowing?
Dont worry about graphs as much as computer programming. how do computer programmers program software that the lottery uses. better yet create a program that mimicks the lottery software results to a te, one that emulates the wisconsin lottery. You must incorpoate computer software linquistic. Do that and you have your prove.
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by nanolike on Dec 16, 2007
JadeLottery, what I do see in the graphs and all the data is this;
They do seem to bring up suspision that it "the wisconsin lottery" could be fixed to a level of accuracy beyond normal suspision.
That being the case, you might wonder how or why you even or ever noticed what you noticed and put together the incredible data in the first place.
And what your true goal is now?
Is it to prove something to yourself? Or to win? Please dont say both it really is one more than the other.
That is my only question?
I'd be interested to hear which one it really is?
And if you do prove in some fashion that the lottery in wisconsin is rigged what do you plan to do with your incredible information? Reveal it to the masses? Or?
That would be even a bigger inquiry of mine.
I'd love to hear your answer on that one too.
Really I would. I think others would like to know what you plan on doing with your info also. I mean people who might tune into lottery post who have not joined yet too?
What is your goal JadeLottery? Is it to prove the lottery is rigged?
as far as your question is concerned you asked,
"How do I prove my state lottery's Computer Generated Numbers are fixed?"
My answer;
Learn all you can about computer software and how it operates, the technology that developed the computer generated system is from this planet. Once you know how it works and what it incorporates, lanquage, code, dates, time, past results ect. You will be closer to knowing?
Dont worry about graphs as much as computer programming. how do computer programmers program software that the lottery uses. better yet create a program that mimicks the lottery software results to a te, one that emulates the wisconsin lottery. You must incorpoate computer software linquistic. Do that and you have your prove.
I'd like to say, I do appreciate your input as a means of advice from your perspective or of an opinion from mine. It does serve to help broaden my own perspective in various parts of the overall question. However, I'm not restricted to just the proposed question of topic, as you have so obviously pointed out in question, yourself. At this time, I can not answer many of your questions that might reveal my true nature as they will present themselves in due time. You are though, free to ask any question you'd like and/or conclude, guess or formulate as to my possible answer. I will however, neither confirm or deny it's truth or fallacy.
Although, in a manner of speaking, when sailing through troubled waters, your heading is correct; just don't get lost in the storm. Chaos, as it would seem, can be forged into order. The wind is changing, rain blankets to obscure and waves gather to turn ship off course, but stay steadfast in conviction and assurance. The story will play itself out, over time.
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OfflineAs stated in my blog, this will be an all year project for experiment 2.
I missed 3 prediction posts and that needs to be made up for in a longer than 90 days I had planned on.
Oh-well, I hope I can keep up this time.
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I really appreciate all the work you have put into the Wisconsin lotto and I wish you the best. I can tell from the way you wrote up your data you are well educated. Not many people can write as well.
I have only one reservation, however.
While I agree CGN drawings can and probably are fixed in some way, proving it by statistics based on the drawings is impossible. Lotteries are random. The last draw has no influence on the next draw. Knowing this, can anyone take the draw history, apply chi-square, T-square, or standard deviations and declare that the lottory is fixed? I don't think so. Any number set can result from any draw.
Now if the Tennessee Cash 5 had the same number sets three drawing in a row, I would know the lotto was fixed but I could not prove it based on those three draws. While such a scenario would be highly improbable it would not be impossible. There is a difference. This difference between improbable and impossible makes proving any lottory fixed based soley on the drawing an impossible task.
I am not advocating you should cease and desist. Quite the contrary. Such data would be helpful in indicating a problem exists. What that problem might be is a totally different story. Take the Tennessee Pick 3 game. No doubles or triples came up for several draws when Tennessee switched to CGN. Statistics came to the rescue thanks to those players who track the P3 game. The problem was identified and rectified.
If you were to prove that a problem exists, then you will have accomplished a great feat and I wish you well. If you prove a problem exists and the lotto officials take no heed of your claims, then by their stubborness you will have proved the lotto is fixed. You next task will be to find the smoking gun.
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on Jan 18, 2008
JadeLottery
I really appreciate all the work you have put into the Wisconsin lotto and I wish you the best. I can tell from the way you wrote up your data you are well educated. Not many people can write as well.
I have only one reservation, however.
While I agree CGN drawings can and probably are fixed in some way, proving it by statistics based on the drawings is impossible. Lotteries are random. The last draw has no influence on the next draw. Knowing this, can anyone take the draw history, apply chi-square, T-square, or standard deviations and declare that the lottory is fixed? I don't think so. Any number set can result from any draw.
Now if the Tennessee Cash 5 had the same number sets three drawing in a row, I would know the lotto was fixed but I could not prove it based on those three draws. While such a scenario would be highly improbable it would not be impossible. There is a difference. This difference between improbable and impossible makes proving any lottory fixed based soley on the drawing an impossible task.
I am not advocating you should cease and desist. Quite the contrary. Such data would be helpful in indicating a problem exists. What that problem might be is a totally different story. Take the Tennessee Pick 3 game. No doubles or triples came up for several draws when Tennessee switched to CGN. Statistics came to the rescue thanks to those players who track the P3 game. The problem was identified and rectified.
If you were to prove that a problem exists, then you will have accomplished a great feat and I wish you well. If you prove a problem exists and the lotto officials take no heed of your claims, then by their stubborness you will have proved the lotto is fixed. You next task will be to find the smoking gun.
Distinguishing between the probable and improbable takes time in a matter of this kind.
We'll just keep chugging along with the posting for a while before we make a formal reply.
Thanks for the input.
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OfflineDue to the recent Lottery Post server and Lottery Post Member Pages server inaccessibility and instability, I'm reposting the opening post so you can see the graphs.
Also, you can go to this link to see the opening post.
http://members.aol.com/jadelottery/hpslcgnf.htm
How do I prove my state lottery's Computer Generated Numbers are fixed?
This is a perplexing and difficult task, but it's not beyond a reasonable plausibility. The task becomes an experiment with a number of steps to follow. Following this opening is a header outline of what can be expected in general; after that, each header is presented in more detail and may have data, graphs, explanations in logic and process, theories, etc. The contents in each header will not get too technical unless it is needed to help support a current or following idea, process, data, graph, computation or theory.
Next is a list of each header and a brief explanation:
- Pretext
Setup information. - Correlation
Simple explanation and graphs in the presentation. - Computations for Analysis
Draw mean and span, the Simplified Bidirectional Mean Averaging. - Wheel Application
Using the draw mean to derive wheel numbers. - Distributions and Analysis
Lottery and Wheel Pool distributions and draw span distribution. - The Pretest, Experiment 0
The 60 draw sample data for analysis and correlation from 2007-08-06 to 2007-10-04. - The Setup and Cost Effective Approach
If they're watching the Lottery Post Predictions, use it to an advantage. - The Test, Experiment 1
Draw and wheel data for the 60 day sample from 2007-10-05 to 2007-12-03. - The Conclusion, Experiment 1
Possible proof the Computer Generated Numbers are fixed? - The Posttest, Experiment 2
A 90 draw sample and wheel posting to play on current draw number deficiencies started 2007-12-04.
Pretext
Prerequisites: Understanding of lotteries, lottery wheels, analysis and systems; graph reading and table reading skills; math operations, statistics, averages, line equations.
In going through this, I ask that anyone reading this please keep this basic understanding in mind. This is not an attempt to try and predict any particular combination. This has more to do with reasonable expectation. I have stated in my blog and defined the difference between the two. The following is from my blog on 2007-02-23:
"Reasonable Expectation and Prediction are often thought of as being the same; they are not. Prediction has a level of precision that is greater than Reasonable Expectation and Prediction can be derived from Reasonable Expectation. Reasonable Expectation has a level of accuracy that is greater than Prediction, however, Reasonable Expectation can only be derived from many different Predictions."
Understanding this difference between reasonable expectation and prediction is important for this topic. There is a tendency to think this topic is about predicting exact combinations. It is about what would be reasonably expected from a lottery selection and the playing of a wheeled set of numbers in a combinatorial set.
The lottery chosen to work with is the Wisconsin Lottery Badger 5. It is a pick 5 of 31 numbers game and is a completely Computer Generated Number game. It has been a Computer Generated Numbers game since its implementation back on 2003-02-17. The numbers selected will be analyzed based on their individual total frequency for the numbers 1 to 31. This creates a distribution and the distribution can be analyzed using a computational method called the Simplified Bidirectional Mean Averaging to show the average fluctuations in the data throughout the numbers 1 to 31. The span of numbers between the largest and the smallest numbers is also analyzed by distribution.
The selected numbers from the previous day's draw are averaged to get a mean value and that mean value is used to create pool of 12 numbers. Those 12 numbers are then inserted into a set of combinations called a wheel. The wheel is then posted on the Lottery Post's prediction board and recorded for further analysis. The 12 numbers derived are also analyzed based on their individual total frequency relative to the 1 to 31 numbers. Here too, the analysis produces a distribution of numbers 1 to 31 and the Simplified Bidirectional Mean Averaging is applied to find the average fluctuations in the distribution.
Both of these analysis procedures are applied to a set of 60 draws before the posting of the wheels and 60 draws during the posting of the wheels; they are experiment 0 (before) and 1 (during). Both experiments will produce a graph of distributions that can be compared to each other and between the drawn numbers and wheeled numbers. From that, it can be visually inspected to see if there is a correlation between the drawn numbers and the wheeled numbers.
In any means of proving that something is influenced by something else, there needs to be a means of correlating the data in to the data out. The statistical information is provided via a link, however, it's easier to present the data in a graphical form for easy reading. If there are questions about the graphs, refer to the data links provided first. The data can be downloaded to perform additional analysis.
Correlation
This is an over simplified description, correlation is the relationship between to different sets of data relative to the same event. Typically, it's thought of as degree of relationship between the Data A (in) to the Data B (out). It's like the heat put into a flask of water and the temperature measured or the electrical current put into a light bulb and the light emitted out. The level of correlation can be expressed as a value from 0 to 1. Later in the topic, this value will be referred to as the R-squared value. The closer to 0 the R-squared value is means there is low correlation between the Data A (in) and the Data B (out). A value closer to 1 means there is a high correlation between the Data A (in) and the Data B (out). Also, there are negative, neutral and positive relationships between the Data A (in) and the Data B (out). The more negative a correlation is means Data A goes in one direction and Data B goes in the opposite direction. The more positive a correlation is means Data A goes in one direction and Data B goes in the same direction. A neutral correlation means Data A changes, but Data B does not change in relationship to Data A. Below are some simple animated graphs to show how this would look.
The animated graphs can be also shown as a line graph to display all the data values at once. The following are the same animated graphs as a non-animated line graphs.
The data can also be graphed as an XY plot with Data A (in) on the horizontal X axis and Data B (out) on the vertical Y axis . The green line on the graph is the general trend line for each. A negative correlation will slant from upper left to lower right and the data will be fairly close to the line, a positive correlation will slant from the lower left to the upper right and the data will be fairly close to the line. A neutral correlation may be slanted or horizontal, but the data will not be very close to the line.
Understanding these last two sets of line graphs is going to be important in showing the relationship between the wheel distributions (Data A) and the draw distributions (Data B). As the distribution data is presented, it will begin as a bar graph and then the Simplified Bidirectional Mean Averaging will be applied to give a line graph showing the average fluctuations in the distributions. The fluctuation distributions will be shown in both formats, line graphs and XY plots.
Computations for Analysis
In order to get the wheel numbers and the average fluctuations in the distributions, a few math operations need to be done. First the mean value of the previously selected draw is needed to derive the wheel numbers. If the previous days draw is represented by these set of values for each column, {A, B, C, D, E}, then the mean is the sum of those numbers divided by the pick size, r. The equation is as follows:
Dm = (A + B + C + D + E) / r
Example, if the previous days draw is {1, 2, 3, 4, 5}, then the mean is Dm = (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5) / 5, Dm = 15 / 5 or Dm = 3. The mean will be applied to find the wheel numbers later.
Next is the Simplified Bidirectional Mean Averaging and is similar to the posted topic Bidirectional Mean Averaging and the Wave Matrix. As the name suggests, it a simplified version of the bidirectional mean averaging process. It involves a few steps: up mean averaging, down mean averaging, the average between the up an down processes. The process is as follows:
By example, if the sample data is {X1, X2, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, X8, X9, X10}, then the up mean averaging is
U1 = X1
U2 = (U1 + X2) / 2
U3 = (U2 + X3) / 2
U4 = (U3 + X4) / 2
U5 = (U4 + X5) / 2
U6 = (U5 + X6) / 2
U7 = (U6 + X7) / 2
U8 = (U7 + X8) / 2
U9 = (U8 + X9) / 2
U10 = (U9 + X10) / 2The up mean averaging data is {U1, U2, U3, U4, U5, U6, U7, U8, U9, U10}. The down mean averaging is
D10 = X10
D9 = (D10 + X9) / 2
D8 = (D9 + X8) / 2
D7 = (D8 + X7) / 2
D6 = (D7 + X6) / 2
D5 = (D6 + X5) / 2
D4 = (D5 + X4) / 2
D3 = (D4 + X3) / 2
D2 = (D3 + X2) / 2
D1 = (D2 + X1) / 2The down mean averaging data is {D1, D2, D3, D4, D5, D6, D7, D8, D9, D10}. The simplified bidirectional mean averaging is
B1 = (U1 + D1) / 2
B2 = (U2 + D2) / 2
B3 = (U3 + D3) / 2
B4 = (U4 + D4) / 2
B5 = (U5 + D5) / 2
B6 = (U6 + D6) / 2
B7 = (U7 + D7) / 2
B8 = (U8 + D8) / 2
B9 = (U9 + D9) / 2
B10 = (U10 + D10) / 2The simplified bidirectional mean averaging data is {B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, B7, B8, B9, B10} for this sample set of 10 numbers. A different quantity set of numbers will follow the same basic process where X1 is set equal to U1 and then the following mean averaging; also, Xn is set equal to Dn and then the following mean averaging, where n is the quantity of numbers in the set.
Another step is needed to make the averaging results more smooth; to work out any big differences in the data. This process is called iteration and it is simply the reapplication of the bidirectional mean averaging method to the data derived by the bidirectional mean averaging. If the data from the bidirectional mean averaging is {B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, B7, B8, B9, B10}, then the bidirectional mean averaging data is set equal to the original variables {X1, X2, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, X8, X9, X10} and the bidirectional mean averaging process is repeated. The new data is said to have been reiterated in the bidirectional mean averaging process, hence the term, iteration. The first iteration is the first application of the method, the second iteration is the reapplication of the method and so on. An example of the method and the following iterations are shown in the graph below. From the graph, Iteration 8 shows the average fluctuations in the distribution. Below the example are a few more graphs.
This graph shows Iteration 8 plotted against a second axis on the right, Average Fluctuation.
An additional calculation is needed for a distribution discussed later in the post. It is the draw span and it's the difference between the largest number and the smallest number in an individual draw. If the draw data is {A, B, C, D, E} and the draw data is in ascending order, then the draw span is
Ds = E - A, where E > A
Example, if the draw is {1, 2, 3, 4, 5}, then the draw span is Ds = 5 - 1 or Ds = 4.
Wheel Application
The draw mean is used to derive the 12 numbers that will be inserted in a wheel for posting on the Lottery Post's prediction board. First, the Integer part of the draw mean is found; it is Di = Int(Dm). The Di value is then used to add and subtract incremental values above and below the Di value to get a set of 12 numbers. Below are the equations for finding Wn values 1 to 12, where n is 1 to 12.
W1 = Di - 5
W2 = Di - 4
W3 = Di - 3
W4 = Di - 2
W5 = Di - 1
W6 = Di
W7 = Di + 1
W8 = Di + 2
W9 = Di + 3
W10 = Di + 4
W11 = Di + 5
W12 = Di + 6The wheel numbers are then {W1, W2, W3, W4, W5, W6, W7, W8, W9, W10, W11, W12}.
The wheel used is as follows:
Index A B C D E 1 1 2 3 5 7 2 1 2 3 5 12 3 1 2 4 7 8 4 1 2 5 6 12 5 1 2 5 7 10 6 1 2 6 7 11 7 1 2 6 9 10 8 1 3 4 6 11 9 1 3 4 8 9 10 1 3 5 6 12 11 1 3 6 7 8 12 1 4 5 7 11 13 1 4 5 8 9 14 1 4 5 8 10 15 1 4 5 9 12 16 1 4 6 9 11 17 1 4 6 10 12 18 1 4 8 10 12 19 1 5 7 10 11 20 1 5 8 9 11 21 1 5 8 10 12 22 2 3 4 6 9 23 2 3 4 9 10 24 2 3 5 9 11 25 2 3 6 9 10 26 2 3 7 8 10 27 2 3 7 9 11 28 2 3 8 9 12 29 2 4 7 10 11 30 2 5 6 7 11 31 2 6 7 10 12 32 2 6 8 10 11 33 2 6 8 10 12 34 2 7 8 11 12 35 3 4 6 11 12 36 3 4 7 9 12 37 3 4 8 9 10 38 3 5 6 8 9 39 3 5 6 8 11 40 3 5 7 8 12 41 3 6 7 10 12 42 3 8 10 11 12 43 4 5 7 8 9 44 4 5 9 11 12 45 4 6 7 8 10 46 4 7 9 10 11 47 4 7 9 11 12 48 5 6 10 11 12 49 5 8 9 10 12 50 6 7 9 11 12 If the previous day's lottery numbers are {10, 13, 20, 22, 28}, then the draw mean is Dm = (10 + 13 + 20 + 22 + 28) / 5, Dm = 93 / 5 or Dm = 18.6 and the Integer value is then Di = Int(18.6) or Di = 18. The the wheel numbers then become {18 - 5, 18 - 4, 18 - 3, 18 - 2, 18 - 1, 18, 18 + 1, 18 + 2, 18 + 3, 18 + 4, 18 + 5, 18 + 6} or {13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24} and when applied to the list of combinations, the wheel becomes the play or prediction post lines as follows:
Index A B C D E 1 13 14 15 17 19 2 13 14 15 17 24 3 13 14 16 19 20 4 13 14 17 18 24 5 13 14 17 19 22 6 13 14 18 19 23 7 13 14 18 21 22 8 13 15 16 18 23 9 13 15 16 20 21 10 13 15 17 18 24 11 13 15 18 19 20 12 13 16 17 19 23 13 13 16 17 20 21 14 13 16 17 20 22 15 13 16 17 21 24 16 13 16 18 21 23 17 13 16 18 22 24 18 13 16 20 22 24 19 13 17 19 22 23 20 13 17 20 21 23 21 13 17 20 22 24 22 14 15 16 18 21 23 14 15 16 21 22 24 14 15 17 21 23 25 14 15 18 21 22 26 14 15 19 20 22 27 14 15 19 21 23 28 14 15 20 21 24 29 14 16 19 22 23 30 14 17 18 19 23 31 14 18 19 22 24 32 14 18 20 22 23 33 14 18 20 22 24 34 14 19 20 23 24 35 15 16 18 23 24 36 15 16 19 21 24 37 15 16 20 21 22 38 15 17 18 20 21 39 15 17 18 20 23 40 15 17 19 20 24 41 15 18 19 22 24 42 15 20 22 23 24 43 16 17 19 20 21 44 16 17 21 23 24 45 16 18 19 20 22 46 16 19 21 22 23 47 16 19 21 23 24 48 17 18 22 23 24 49 17 20 21 22 24 50 18 19 21 23 24 This process is done for each days drawing and posting.
Distributions and Analysis
There are three distributions that will be looked at and analyzed. They are the lottery and wheel numbers distributions and the draw span distribution. The table below shows a 60 draw example of lottery numbers, wheel numbers and draw span for each draw.
Index Lottery Numbers Draw Span Wheel Numbers A B C D E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 0 1 13 19 20 24 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 2 3 5 15 22 20 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 2 2 10 20 22 26 24 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 3 1 6 10 21 27 26 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 4 2 3 5 12 20 18 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 5 2 4 16 17 25 23 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 6 13 17 19 27 30 17 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 7 3 12 23 29 30 27 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 8 16 20 22 25 28 12 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 9 7 11 18 19 23 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 10 4 5 13 23 30 26 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 11 13 17 20 22 26 13 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 12 9 22 24 29 30 21 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 13 22 24 26 27 30 8 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 14 5 10 18 26 29 24 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 15 3 10 12 16 19 16 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 16 2 8 20 25 28 26 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 17 2 19 20 25 26 24 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 18 5 6 9 13 21 16 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 19 5 12 19 21 24 19 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 20 2 14 22 26 31 29 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 21 4 8 9 13 26 22 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 22 10 13 17 19 30 20 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 23 4 6 9 11 12 8 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 1 10 21 29 30 29 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 25 1 2 12 21 26 25 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 26 1 7 15 16 20 19 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 27 2 7 8 13 25 23 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 28 5 7 17 18 21 16 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 29 1 18 25 27 29 28 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 30 4 5 15 17 29 25 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 31 1 19 20 26 28 27 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 32 8 9 13 16 24 16 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 33 4 7 18 20 30 26 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 34 3 4 10 14 17 14 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 35 2 3 9 11 24 22 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 36 3 7 19 20 26 23 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 37 21 22 23 26 28 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 38 10 12 24 25 27 17 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 39 4 9 14 18 24 20 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 40 3 5 17 23 29 26 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 41 2 3 6 12 28 26 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 42 8 11 15 18 21 13 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 43 7 15 16 23 27 20 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 44 9 15 16 17 28 19 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 45 2 6 7 9 24 22 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 46 1 19 20 25 27 26 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 47 1 14 15 21 26 25 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 48 3 5 6 12 13 10 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 49 2 7 10 12 18 16 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 50 4 8 17 19 28 24 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 51 3 9 11 14 22 19 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 52 1 7 10 12 29 28 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 53 7 13 14 30 31 24 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 54 1 4 11 14 17 16 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 55 1 8 10 22 25 24 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 56 3 14 16 24 29 26 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 57 18 19 23 25 26 8 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 58 2 9 21 22 23 21 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 59 4 5 8 9 14 10 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 60 5 8 11 15 20 15 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 The numbers in each column heading of Lottery Numbers, Draw Span and Wheel Numbers can be tallied to find each headings distribution of numbers. For this example, the following tables show their respective distributions.
Number Frequencies Wheel Draw 1 0 11 2 1 14 3 4 12 4 10 11 5 12 12 6 16 6 7 20 11 8 24 9 9 27 12 10 36 11 11 39 7 12 44 11 13 48 10 14 52 9 15 50 8 16 45 8 17 46 11 18 42 9 19 39 11 20 36 12 21 33 10 22 24 11 23 21 8 24 16 9 25 12 10 26 7 13 27 6 7 28 5 7 29 2 9 30 2 9 31 1 2 Value Span Frequency 1 0 2 0 3 0 4 0 5 0 6 0 7 1 8 3 9 0 10 2 11 0 12 1 13 2 14 1 15 1 16 7 17 2 18 1 19 4 20 4 21 2 22 3 23 3 24 6 25 3 26 8 27 2 28 2 29 2 30 0 The bar graphs of these can be seen next.
The draw span will be referred to later in the post. The wheel and draw distributions will have the Simplified Bidirectional Mean Averaging applied to get the average fluctuations for each data set. The Bidirectional Mean Averaging will be carried out to 8 Iterations for analysis. The next table shows the average fluctuations for each wheel and draw distribution.
Number Frequencies Fluctuations Wheel Draw Wheel Draw 1 0 11 8.296221 11.20978 2 1 14 9.455705 11.12575 3 4 12 11.14963 11.00038 4 10 11 13.31095 10.84371 5 12 12 15.85587 10.67092 6 16 6 18.69422 10.498 7 20 11 21.72728 10.34132 8 24 9 24.8474 10.20175 9 27 12 27.93632 10.07813 10 36 11 30.86472 9.965723 11 39 7 33.49274 9.866072 12 44 11 35.68861 9.785218 13 48 10 37.33592 9.723592 14 52 9 38.34711 9.684897 15 50 8 38.67417 9.672521 16 45 8 38.31653 9.685291 17 46 11 37.31168 9.713629 18 42 9 35.71819 9.739883 19 39 11 33.61597 9.747519 20 36 12 31.09881 9.718874 21 33 10 28.27243 9.641936 22 24 11 25.25336 9.513316 23 21 8 22.16709 9.332396 24 16 9 19.13069 9.102002 25 12 10 16.25005 8.820878 26 7 13 13.61314 8.488693 27 6 7 11.28714 8.112503 28 5 7 9.31464 7.717087 29 2 9 7.720732 7.331684 30 2 9 6.520118 6.99004 31 1 2 5.718166 6.733356 Here is a graph of the data.
Now the fluctuations only.
The fluctuation data then can be applied to an XY plot to show the relationship between the wheel and draw average fluctuation. In the XY plot there will be a green line showing the trend line and some additional information about the line and correlation of the data. The R-square value is the degree of correlation between the wheel and draw fluctuations and the equation of the line is given by y = 8.77 + 0.0326x. The R-square value is close to 0, meaning the data in (wheel fluctuation) has a low influence on the data out (draw fluctuation) and can be visually verified by the points and their respective distances from the line.
Next, these basic processes of finding fluctuations and correlation will be applied to some actual draw data in a pretest, Experiment 0.
The Pretest, Experiment 0
For this part, the data can be accessed through the following link for reference, Experiment 0 Data. Experiment 0 never posted any wheels to the Lottery Post's prediction board and was never played in the Badger 5 game. It is the 60 draw data from 2007-08-06 to 2007-10-04. The following graphs are the wheel and draw distributions, their fluctuations and the XY Plot and correlation.
From the graphs, an inference can be made based on the R-square value and the XY Plot. The low R-square value shows there is a low relationship between the wheel numbers (data in) to the draw numbers (data out). Also, from the visual inspection of the plot, the data points are fairly far from the trend line, meaning this tends to suggest there is a low relationship between the wheel and the draw. This is what would be reasonably expected for a random event where no wheel was played or posted. In a truly random setting, it is also reasonable to expect a low correlation if the wheel is played or posted. In the next step, there needs to be a setup for attention grabbing to get those who could possibly be involved to play along. Then Experiment 1 can be tested to see if there is a relationship between data in (wheel) and data out (draw).
The Setup and Cost Effective Approach
Ever had that feeling you're being watched? The feeling goes something like this: You work out a really great system for analyzing and playing numbers in a specific lottery game. You've done all the research, worked all the loose ends and then comes the time to either play or post your find. It works great and then like someone switching off a light, it goes cold.
Well, in the case of posting on the Lottery Post, I think there might be a reason. It's described in one word, discredit. One of the most effective ways of discouraging many people from playing a proven method is to show it doesn't work. I think this is what could be happening at the Lottery Post.
Unfortunately for the ones watching, this can prove to be a very cost effective way of proving the opening sentence in this post. If a $50.00 wheel were played for 60 draws, that would be a $3000.00 cost to play. Far beyond my ability to afford. So, basically I needed a way to attract attention and get the eye of those who would be watching. Loud mouthing, posting wheels and systems seems to have worked. Instead of actually playing the $50.00 wheel, I've used the watchful eye as an advantage.
Next is the heart of this post, Experiment 1.
The Test, Experiment 1
The Excel Sheet for the data and graphs can be found here, Experiment 1 Data. Experiment 1 posted wheels on the Lottery Post's prediction board during the period 2007-10-05 to 2007-12-03, a total of 60 draws. The following are the distributions, fluctuations and correlation graphs for the data.
In the fluctuations graph, there is an obvious visual correlation between the data in (wheel) and the data out (draw). As the wheel number fluctuation increases, the draw number fluctuation decreases and the same is true in the opposite, as the wheel number fluctuation decreases, the draw number fluctuation increases. This would tend to suggest there may be a negative correlation between the two. Following this graph is the XY plot that can help in determining the correlation.
Next is the XY plot of the fluctuations and shows the plotted data points and tend line. In the lower right are the R-square value and line equation based on 31 data points.
From the graphs, it visually shows there is a possible correlation between the data in (wheel) to the data out (draw), the points are very close to the line. From the the R-square value of 0.957, it's very close to 1 and suggests there is a close correlation between the wheel and draw data, numerically. The -0.0526 value in the line equation suggests there is a negative correlation between the data in (wheel) and the data out (draw). As a comparison between the before and after, examine the XY plots of both Experiment 0 and 1. There is a dramatic difference between the two. Below is the XY plot for Experiment 0.
Going back to the distributions graph, looking at just the wheel data, there appears to be something like a normal distribution curve. Below is a bar graph of just the wheel distribution data; this data can be analyzed to find a mean wheel number and standard deviation. The mean and standard deviation can then be used to find what are the 50% of the highest frequently posted wheel numbers. In other words, where does the bulk of the wheel numbers lay? The mean value is just the average of all the wheel numbers that are to be inserted into the combinations of the wheel and the standard deviation is the value related to those numbers, also.
To find the wheel number mean, add up all the numbers that are to be inserted in the wheel combinations and divided by the total set of numbers. The wheel number mean is then equal to 16.11667. The standard deviation value for the wheel numbers is 5.24639. This operation can be found in the Experiment 1 Data Excel file by click on the bottom tab, Wheel # Analysis. These values can then be used to create a normal distribution curve and find the 50% bulk of the wheel numbers. Below is a graph of the wheel distribution and normal distribution.
The graph shows there is a peak at the number 16; this is consistent with the mean value of 16.11667. Also, looking at the graph there appears to be a bulk of the data centered around the mean. To find the 50% bulk of the data that is closest to the mean and is 25% above and 25% below the mean can be determined by multiplying the standard deviation by 0.674489524681121 and then adding and subtracting it from the mean. This will produce a lower limit and upper limit of where the 50% bulk of the data is falling. The lower limit is
Lb = 16.11667 - (0.674489524681121 * 5.24639)
Lb = 16.11667 - 3.53864
Lb = 12.57803
Lu = 16.11667 + (0.674489524681121 * 5.24639)
Lu = 16.11667 + 3.53864
Lu = 19.65530The Lb and Lu values can now establish a set of high work bulk numbers that represent the highest frequency numbers where the work is being done by the wheel. The set of numbers are going to be the integer values that are greater than Lb and less than Lu; these are {13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19}. In addition to the high work bulk of numbers, there is a counter part that shows the low work bulk of numbers where the least amount of work is being done. It is also 50% of the numbers and is the remaining set of numbers not covered by the high work bulk numbers of {13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19}; they are {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31}.
It's important to understand these as what numbers are doing the most work and how this relates to the numbers being drawn by the lottery. Below is a distribution table of the drawn lottery numbers. From this table it can be shown what are the highest frequency numbers and lowest frequency numbers by finding the mean or average frequency of the table.
Number Draw 1 11 2 11 3 9 4 10 5 8 6 13 7 12 8 12 9 10 10 11 11 11 12 6 13 6 14 9 15 9 16 7 17 10 18 8 19 4 20 14 21 5 22 14 23 10 24 6 25 14 26 6 27 10 28 13 29 7 30 12 31 12 From this an average frequency can be found by summing the frequencies and dividing by the total numbers in the set. The average frequency is 9.67742 and can be used to setup a table that shows the numbers below average and above average.
Experiment 1 Draw Number Frequencies Below average Above average 3 1 5 2 12 4 13 6 14 7 15 8 16 9 18 10 19 11 21 17 24 20 26 22 29 23 25 27 28 30 31 The table shows the high work bulk wheel numbers in gray. It also shows that almost half of the below average draw number frequencies are the high work bulk wheel numbers. The same was applied to Experiment 0. The data can be accessed in this link, Experiment 0 Data. The following is the table for Experiment 0 showing the below average and above average draw number frequencies. As it turns out, the high work bulk wheel numbers have the same set of numbers in Experiment 0, {13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19}.
Experiment 0 Draw Number Frequencies Below average Above average 2 1 6 3 7 4 8 5 9 10 11 12 15 13 16 14 18 17 21 19 25 20 26 22 28 23 30 24 27 29 31 Notice the high work bulk numbers are fairly evenly distributed between the below average and above average draw number frequencies and there is actually more by count in the above average column.
The draw span also changed slightly between Experiment 0 and 1. Below are some graphs showing the change. The shift can be seen where the peek of each fluctuation line is. In Experiment 0 the peek is at 23. The peek in Experiment 1 is at 25, meaning there was a slight shift in the span of drawn numbers. This shows the draw span increased slightly during Experiment 1 as compared to Experiment 0.
All this data will play an important role in the next part, the conclusion.
The Conclusion, Experiment 1
Is this possible proof the Wisconsin Lottery Badger 5 Computer Generated Numbers are fixed? Well, looking at just small slice of the possible data that could be derived for this topic, it appears to be fixed. There is the direct relationship between the data in (wheel) and data out (draw) in Experiment 1. Also, the high work bulk wheel numbers are clustered in the low frequency drawn numbers. In addition, the draw span shifted slightly to higher span values.
Some might say, "Well, this is a small sample and the data can interpreted in may ways. Don't think much of it." This is true if it were not for Experiment 2 running currently. The next part will address the implications of the posttest, Experiment 2.
The Posttest, Experiment 2
Experiment 2 is designed to pick up on the low frequency or deficient draw numbers established in Experiment 1. The deficient draw numbers contain almost all the high work bulk wheel numbers established in Experiment 1. To play on these deficient draw number, a wheel with a fixed set of numbers is used to be inserted in a wheel for posting. The numbers are {10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22} and is a total set of 13 numbers. This also contains the high work bulk wheel numbers from Experiment 1, {13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19}.
This setup creates a paradox for the would be wheel watchers. On one hand, if they stop trying to discredit the wheel by returning to a truly random state, the wheel begins to look good. However, on the other hand, if the continue to try and discredit the wheel by randomly manipulating the draw numbers, they will continue the current deficiencies and possibly increase the deficiencies which would go against the very notion of a truly random setting.
There is one other possible choice, but that would lead to something of an admission of guilt, change the play matrix or discontinue the game. The basis is covered, all we have to is watch them watching us.
To be continued... with Experiment 2.
As a side note, look at the frequency distribution for the draw numbers. See how asymmetrical the pattern is; it seems normal on the left (low numbers), but look how choppy the pattern is on the right (higher numbers).
Seems to me, whatever software that could possibly be used to randomly hide the act of fixing the draws, ain't workin'.
Also, clarification on a point made at the end of the post. "...possibly increase the deficiencies..." means the difference between the high frequency and low frequency would increase, not the number frequencies themselves.
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Hi,
Maybe the problem isn't the way the numbers are picked. Maybe it is the way quick pick numbers are being issued. Take the2/2/08 California Fantasy 5, for example. The numbers picked were 7,9,11,13,15. The interesting thing about it is that there 14 winners hitting 5 out of 5. My guess is that most of the winners were quick picks. Only because, just about anyone at the LP would have filtered out this combination. So, why fix the draw when you can issue low pecentage chance quick picks?
You are a slave to the choices you have made. jk
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Does 'fixed' mean 'not evenly distributed' or does 'fixed' mean 'responds in some way' to what combos are played?'
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All: My place is a bit of a mess right now. I'm in the process of building three table/desks for myself and my sons. Space was pretty well limited and I had a huge monstrosity of an old desk I needed to get rid of. Now there's lots of room for the computer wares, couch converted futon and my pool table.
Also, here are the links to the Experiment Data. It seems the Lottery Post Member Pages will be down for a long while.
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by JKING on Feb 3, 2008
Hi,
Maybe the problem isn't the way the numbers are picked. Maybe it is the way quick pick numbers are being issued. Take the2/2/08 California Fantasy 5, for example. The numbers picked were 7,9,11,13,15. The interesting thing about it is that there 14 winners hitting 5 out of 5. My guess is that most of the winners were quick picks. Only because, just about anyone at the LP would have filtered out this combination. So, why fix the draw when you can issue low pecentage chance quick picks?
JKING,
There is a possible tie in with how Quick Picks are generated, but that's a side topic relative to this one and is certainly being looked at on the local purchasing level and the broader multiple cities/county/state purchasing level. I've noticed in my travels some unusual anomalies in the picking that don't seem to suggest random selections. I can't get into much detail now, but keep an eye out for it.
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