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How do I prove my state lottery's CGNs are fixed?
CA United States Member #3044 December 10, 2003 716 Posts Offline
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If it is at all possible, lotteries may be rigged to provide one of two outcomes - either certain numbers played by those who do the rigging can be selected or the most popular numbers selected can be eliminated from the draw - and keep in mind that around 70% of all tickets purchased in any lottery will be quick picks. With the second possibility in mind data like this can be analyzed to eliminate certain numbers from non-QP selections to maximize the winning possibilities. Interesting thread - KUTGW. gl j Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there.....
Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.
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The Mathematical Alpha Geek Waukesha, WI United States Member #21 December 7, 2001 1630 Posts Offline
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If it is at all possible, lotteries may be rigged to provide one of two outcomes - either certain numbers played by those who do the rigging can be selected or the most popular numbers selected can be eliminated from the draw - and keep in mind that around 70% of all tickets purchased in any lottery will be quick picks. With the second possibility in mind data like this can be analyzed to eliminate certain numbers from non-QP selections to maximize the winning possibilities. Interesting thread - KUTGW. gl j You've touched on a good point about Quick Picks. If it's possible to fix or rig Self Pick related CGN's, then the fixing or rigging of Quick Picks is just as susceptible and possible even more likely, given the fact that all terminals are connected to one central computer. Not necessarily connected to the same computer doing the number generation, but at least to the same organization that supplies it. Hypothetically speaking, of course.  My Self Picks are optimized to produce
the most number of wins with
the least amount of effort.
Order is a subset of Chaos.
Thank You,
Doug
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Atwater, Ohio United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 1175 Posts Offline
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You've touched on a good point about Quick Picks. If it's possible to fix or rig Self Pick related CGN's, then the fixing or rigging of Quick Picks is just as susceptible and possible even more likely, given the fact that all terminals are connected to one central computer. Not necessarily connected to the same computer doing the number generation, but at least to the same organization that supplies it. Hypothetically speaking, of course.  "Not necessarily connected to the same computer doing the number generation, but at least to the same organization that supplies it." If each terminal individually generated random QPs and when sales volume is high, there should be more duplicate tickets and have more drawings with multiple winners. Ohio started with a 50 cents ticket 6/40 lotto game in April 1983 and raised it to $1 tickets in November 1983. From then until the game ended in April 1987, it was rare to see only 1 winning ticket or more than 1 draw without a winner. There was one streak of 18 consecutive drawings with a jackpot winner and another streak with 54 jackpot winning tickets in 11 consecutive drawings. When they ran the Super Lotto 6/44 game, it was rare to see more than 1 winner and see the jackpot being hit in consecutive drawings. Granted, the possible combinations went from 4 million to 7 million but it's possible they synchronized the terminals so there would fewer duplicate combinations.
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The Mathematical Alpha Geek Waukesha, WI United States Member #21 December 7, 2001 1630 Posts Offline
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"Not necessarily connected to the same computer doing the number generation, but at least to the same organization that supplies it." If each terminal individually generated random QPs and when sales volume is high, there should be more duplicate tickets and have more drawings with multiple winners. Ohio started with a 50 cents ticket 6/40 lotto game in April 1983 and raised it to $1 tickets in November 1983. From then until the game ended in April 1987, it was rare to see only 1 winning ticket or more than 1 draw without a winner. There was one streak of 18 consecutive drawings with a jackpot winner and another streak with 54 jackpot winning tickets in 11 consecutive drawings. When they ran the Super Lotto 6/44 game, it was rare to see more than 1 winner and see the jackpot being hit in consecutive drawings. Granted, the possible combinations went from 4 million to 7 million but it's possible they synchronized the terminals so there would fewer duplicate combinations. Within the same concept, but on a wider spectrum... your thinking is in the arena, but there are things going on outside it that need to be accounted for. My Self Picks are optimized to produce
the most number of wins with
the least amount of effort.
Order is a subset of Chaos.
Thank You,
Doug
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WorldWide United States Member #55685 September 18, 2007 70 Posts Offline
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JADELottery I agree JADELottery there are things going on outside the drawing in order to bring about a certain fixed outcome. I have known this for years. In fact I can prove the lottery is rigged, unfortunately it will do me no good to post the 100% accurate detailed data on this site. There is a part of me "the ego" that wants to be the first in the world to publicate it but I have been holding on to it for some time, maybe just waiting for the right moment I dont know? But it is rigged, rigged in the sense that those who designed the lottery software that gives the 6 numbers have incorporated into it certain things to occure beyond chance. I know what those things are and can predict the outcome with incredible accuracy. If you dont play and only keep track of the results you can hit the numbers more often than if you play. If you play you wont. Its a software that wont allow you to win. In otherwords I hate to say it but as I told you before your graphs will do you know good in the sense of winning a lottery jackpot with them, but only prove an accuracy beyond chance or inaccuracy of normal luck in the drawing. Which i know for sure you have seen and attain some logical or illogical view, but are confused as to why it is occuring, thus causing you to try and prove that the lottery is rigged. But they will never allow a win to you, for the moment that you have it all figured out and go to play your system, the software that you are playing against will change one number so you cant win the jackpot, one number changed and you lose the jackpot. The most you will ever win is 5 right out of a 6/49 lotto. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you are barking up the wrong tree. Your graphs are increadibly well thought out and designed but will not ever do you much good in attaining all 6 numbers on one line, niether will they ever help anyone attain all 6 numbers on one line. Its not that it wouldnt be nice, but it is NOT FATE that is running the lottery and i think you are starting to see this, more clearly each drawing, am I correct in saying you were first excited, then confused, now trying to prove the lottery is rigged. You final outcome or conclusion will be the latter. I can promise you that. Regardless you will not be able to do anything with your data but publicize it, unfortunately it will never gain you a lottery win larger than 5 numbers right in a 6/49 game. Please pay attention to what I say next. This is the most important thing i could ever say to you. There are those who will never ever accept that the lottery is rigged they will always point you in the direction of others who thought the lottery was rigged also, and somehow aid you in seeing that those people who say the lottery is fixed are nuts, lunitics if i may say and a little delusional in their mind to even think such a thing that the lottery could be rigged, they will point you to the IRS watches over these things with a fine tooth comb abd that monitors are in place to aid in the security of a fair and accurate and legal honest lottery drawing, they will point you to books and websites about other who thought the lottery was rigged and show you how that person who claimed the lottery was fixed was discarded as a nut. But I say to you, you are onto something big, but in the end it will prove to be fruitless. These so called people I speak of will never assist you in winning more than 4 numbers maximum with your system maybe 5 tops. It is because they can not under no condition accept that a lottery could be fixed in someway to garantee a certain fixed outcome before the drawing is held. JADELottery have you ever known something but cant tell anyone? A secret? I know something that I can not tell anyone! But this posting is enough clue for you to either accept or regect the truth. The Lottery is NOT FATE! There is no such thing as FATE or destiny or luck when your dealing in a lottery drawing that is fixed prior to a drawing. Sorry!
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WorldWide United States Member #55685 September 18, 2007 70 Posts Offline
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JadeLottery, what I do see in the graphs and all the data is this; They do seem to bring up suspision that it "the wisconsin lottery" could be fixed to a level of accuracy beyond normal suspision. That being the case, you might wonder how or why you even or ever noticed what you noticed and put together the incredible data in the first place. And what your true goal is now? Is it to prove something to yourself? Or to win? Please dont say both it really is one more than the other. That is my only question? I'd be interested to hear which one it really is? And if you do prove in some fashion that the lottery in wisconsin is rigged what do you plan to do with your incredible information? Reveal it to the masses? Or? That would be even a bigger inquiry of mine. I'd love to hear your answer on that one too. Really I would. I think others would like to know what you plan on doing with your info also. I mean people who might tune into lottery post who have not joined yet too? What is your goal JadeLottery? Is it to prove the lottery is rigged? as far as your question is concerned you asked, "How do I prove my state lottery's Computer Generated Numbers are fixed?" My answer; Learn all you can about computer software and how it operates, the technology that developed the computer generated system is from this planet. Once you know how it works and what it incorporates, lanquage, code, dates, time, past results ect. You will be closer to knowing? Dont worry about graphs as much as computer programming. how do computer programmers program software that the lottery uses. better yet create a program that mimicks the lottery software results to a te, one that emulates the wisconsin lottery. You must incorpoate computer software linquistic. Do that and you have your prove.
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The Mathematical Alpha Geek Waukesha, WI United States Member #21 December 7, 2001 1630 Posts Offline
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JadeLottery, what I do see in the graphs and all the data is this; They do seem to bring up suspision that it "the wisconsin lottery" could be fixed to a level of accuracy beyond normal suspision. That being the case, you might wonder how or why you even or ever noticed what you noticed and put together the incredible data in the first place. And what your true goal is now? Is it to prove something to yourself? Or to win? Please dont say both it really is one more than the other. That is my only question? I'd be interested to hear which one it really is? And if you do prove in some fashion that the lottery in wisconsin is rigged what do you plan to do with your incredible information? Reveal it to the masses? Or? That would be even a bigger inquiry of mine. I'd love to hear your answer on that one too. Really I would. I think others would like to know what you plan on doing with your info also. I mean people who might tune into lottery post who have not joined yet too? What is your goal JadeLottery? Is it to prove the lottery is rigged? as far as your question is concerned you asked, "How do I prove my state lottery's Computer Generated Numbers are fixed?" My answer; Learn all you can about computer software and how it operates, the technology that developed the computer generated system is from this planet. Once you know how it works and what it incorporates, lanquage, code, dates, time, past results ect. You will be closer to knowing? Dont worry about graphs as much as computer programming. how do computer programmers program software that the lottery uses. better yet create a program that mimicks the lottery software results to a te, one that emulates the wisconsin lottery. You must incorpoate computer software linquistic. Do that and you have your prove. I'd like to say, I do appreciate your input as a means of advice from your perspective or of an opinion from mine. It does serve to help broaden my own perspective in various parts of the overall question. However, I'm not restricted to just the proposed question of topic, as you have so obviously pointed out in question, yourself. At this time, I can not answer many of your questions that might reveal my true nature as they will present themselves in due time. You are though, free to ask any question you'd like and/or conclude, guess or formulate as to my possible answer. I will however, neither confirm or deny it's truth or fallacy. Although, in a manner of speaking, when sailing through troubled waters, your heading is correct; just don't get lost in the storm. Chaos, as it would seem, can be forged into order. The wind is changing, rain blankets to obscure and waves gather to turn ship off course, but stay steadfast in conviction and assurance. The story will play itself out, over time. My Self Picks are optimized to produce
the most number of wins with
the least amount of effort.
Order is a subset of Chaos.
Thank You,
Doug
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The Mathematical Alpha Geek Waukesha, WI United States Member #21 December 7, 2001 1630 Posts Offline
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As stated in my blog, this will be an all year project for experiment 2. I missed 3 prediction posts and that needs to be made up for in a longer than 90 days I had planned on. Oh-well, I hope I can keep up this time. My Self Picks are optimized to produce
the most number of wins with
the least amount of effort.
Order is a subset of Chaos.
Thank You,
Doug
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NASHVILLE, TENN United States Member #33768 February 20, 2006 369 Posts Offline
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JadeLottery I really appreciate all the work you have put into the Wisconsin lotto and I wish you the best. I can tell from the way you wrote up your data you are well educated. Not many people can write as well. I have only one reservation, however. While I agree CGN drawings can and probably are fixed in some way, proving it by statistics based on the drawings is impossible. Lotteries are random. The last draw has no influence on the next draw. Knowing this, can anyone take the draw history, apply chi-square, T-square, or standard deviations and declare that the lottory is fixed? I don't think so. Any number set can result from any draw. Now if the Tennessee Cash 5 had the same number sets three drawing in a row, I would know the lotto was fixed but I could not prove it based on those three draws. While such a scenario would be highly improbable it would not be impossible. There is a difference. This difference between improbable and impossible makes proving any lottory fixed based soley on the drawing an impossible task. I am not advocating you should cease and desist. Quite the contrary. Such data would be helpful in indicating a problem exists. What that problem might be is a totally different story. Take the Tennessee Pick 3 game. No doubles or triples came up for several draws when Tennessee switched to CGN. Statistics came to the rescue thanks to those players who track the P3 game. The problem was identified and rectified. If you were to prove that a problem exists, then you will have accomplished a great feat and I wish you well. If you prove a problem exists and the lotto officials take no heed of your claims, then by their stubborness you will have proved the lotto is fixed. You next task will be to find the smoking gun.
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The Mathematical Alpha Geek Waukesha, WI United States Member #21 December 7, 2001 1630 Posts Offline
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JadeLottery I really appreciate all the work you have put into the Wisconsin lotto and I wish you the best. I can tell from the way you wrote up your data you are well educated. Not many people can write as well. I have only one reservation, however. While I agree CGN drawings can and probably are fixed in some way, proving it by statistics based on the drawings is impossible. Lotteries are random. The last draw has no influence on the next draw. Knowing this, can anyone take the draw history, apply chi-square, T-square, or standard deviations and declare that the lottory is fixed? I don't think so. Any number set can result from any draw. Now if the Tennessee Cash 5 had the same number sets three drawing in a row, I would know the lotto was fixed but I could not prove it based on those three draws. While such a scenario would be highly improbable it would not be impossible. There is a difference. This difference between improbable and impossible makes proving any lottory fixed based soley on the drawing an impossible task. I am not advocating you should cease and desist. Quite the contrary. Such data would be helpful in indicating a problem exists. What that problem might be is a totally different story. Take the Tennessee Pick 3 game. No doubles or triples came up for several draws when Tennessee switched to CGN. Statistics came to the rescue thanks to those players who track the P3 game. The problem was identified and rectified. If you were to prove that a problem exists, then you will have accomplished a great feat and I wish you well. If you prove a problem exists and the lotto officials take no heed of your claims, then by their stubborness you will have proved the lotto is fixed. You next task will be to find the smoking gun. Distinguishing between the probable and improbable takes time in a matter of this kind.
We'll just keep chugging along with the posting for a while before we make a formal reply.
Thanks for the input. My Self Picks are optimized to produce
the most number of wins with
the least amount of effort.
Order is a subset of Chaos.
Thank You,
Doug
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