First of all, these men were considered dangerous as the FBI already knew they were armed....no armed and dangerous necessary. Their general hostility towards the situation, in general, suggested pure anti-government at any and all costs, okay. In terms of that land, their cattle grazing, and the B.O.L.M, they got away with murder for years. So many particulars on this issue.

However, I'd like to inject an observation which is very noteworthy, and, hints at the whole Michael Brown shooting. Read carefully:

It has been said that the deceased in this altercation HAD THEIR HANDS UP AND WAS STILL SHOT. I'll just leave it right there....

Update: Jason Patrick has also just been arrested...in real time. As usual, a talk show caller tried to inject Obama into all this mess and the talk show host told them that "it's JUVENILE" to even attempt to blame this on the President...and it's a somewhat conservative chat show. Anyhow, armored vehicles headed out to the refuge....

When you unjustly rise up against the government, and with weapons, you're a permanently marked man, or group.