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Selective abhorrance of terrorism


Last Edited: September 28, 2006, 10:05 am

Not many years ago, 1987, maybe, the Israeli Defense Forces, moved into Lebanon to intervene in a war between the Christian Phalangists and the Palestine Liberation Front forces. 

As they did so, the UN personnel and the PLO combat personnel evacuated by ship, leaving a non-combatant, mostly un-armed population of 1000 Palestinians at the major PLO base at Shatilla, Lebanon.

The Israeli forces moved to surround Shatilla, but didn't enter it.  They locked it up so nobody could leave, and brought the Christian Phalangists in to do the dirty work.  For 36 hours they lit the sky with flares while the Christians moved in and slaughtered all 1000, every man, woman and child at Shatilla.

A few managed to survive, hiding under the bodies of the dead until the dust settled and the gunfire stopped.  Then the Israeli loudspeakers came on.  "We are only looking for terrorists.  No one else will be harmed.  (words to persuade any unlikely survivors to come out with their hands up."

No US president ever became outraged by the slaughter, clearly a military action.  Clearly no terrorist act.  No wars on THIS terrorism, because the right people were killed by the right people.

We in the US never liked Palestinians.  They didn't give up their homes and their land easily enough to suit us when we created the Zionist state of Israel.  When they were shoved off into filthy camps in Gaza and elsewhere, they threw rocks at cops and got their ugly pictures in the papers.

The PLO became a leading force among them, dedicated to trying to get the ancestral homeland back by any method.  They killed Europeans.  Killed some good Americans.  Bastards.  Their leader dressed the way Jesus must have dressed, dressed the way Matthew, Mark Luke and John probably dressed.  Didn't shave often enough.

Let the Christians slaughter them all they want, was the world reaction.  They ain't getting their land back.  We gave it away, and we wouldn't have done it if we didn't know what was best.

Let the Christians kill them all.

The Lebanese Christian Phalangists did their work at Shatilla, but they ran out of steam.  So we had to declare war on terrorists to expand the job.

A holy war with the right people killing the right people.

We've got to do it, because they hate us (gotta wonder why), because of the unprovoked 9/11 attack, because, as luck has it, they're sitting on the oil we need to keep the country running.

And, of course, as everyone knows, they want to destroy us.


(Edited in:  I've composed this from memory of the events of the time.  Some minor inaccuracies, names of places might be wrong or miss-spelled.  But this is a generally accurate description of an actual event as it happened, including the reaction of the world (Europe and the US) during the aftermath.


Entry #601


Comment by Rip Snorter - September 28, 2006, 11:23 am
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with racial, ethnic, religious, or patriotic cleansing. Slaughtering, enslaving, and taking the property of people who believe differently from you, who have a different skin color, who speak a different language, so long as they have something you want.

The Jews have done it from their earliest history.

The Moslems have done it since the beginning.

The Christians have done it throughout their own history.

The US could never have become great without a willingness to follow lockstep in that tradition, taking whatever it wanted from anyone who had it, Indians, French, Spaniards, Mexicans, Mormans, and slaughtering them out of pleasure or necessity occasionally.

Nothing intrinsically wrong with that, if you're a good Jew, Moslem, Christian, good American.

What's wrong is the hypocracy. The lies.

Have the decency to be honest about your beliefs, your actions, your bloody history and the bloody future you aspire to.
csfbComment by csfb - September 28, 2006, 12:09 pm
You said, "What's wrong is the hypocrisy. The lies."

Trouble is, most people do not know they are hypocrites and /or telling lies.

Most people think what they are doing and saying are the RIGHT things to do. It is the other person who is wrong , they believe. It's a matter of what lens you are looking from. We all look at things through lenses, some tinted darkly than others. If all lenses were the same, than we aren't in this world.

Comment by Rip Snorter - September 28, 2006, 12:34 pm
csfb: Frankly, I don't believe you are correct in that assertion. I believe there was never any doubt in the minds of the Brits and Americans about who owned Palestine prior to 1947. Of course they knew.

But they felt guilty. They had an agenda. And they had a population of displaced Jews throughout Europe who would never again trust Europeans not to do what they've done throughout European history. They made a value judgement.

Nobody really ever doubted what happened at Shatilla. But it was okay because it was on the agenda, Palestinians needed a solution, and the Zionists and Christians provided a piece of that solution. A piece of that final solution.

Of course they thought it was RIGHT, that slaughter, those Zionists, those Christians doing the slaughtering.

"We all look at things through lenses, some tinted darkly than others. If all lenses were the same, than we aren't in this world," is merely a blas'e means, other words to say, "The lies and hypocracy are okay because we THINK it's okay to live as we do."

About all I can think of in reply is this:

Human beings, Christians, Moslems, Jews, good Americans, for the good of your souls stop the damned lying. God, Jesus, Mohammad, and George Washington all hate lies.

No, I don't believe for a moment those Christians. . . those CHRISTIANS at Shatilla slaughtering women, children, thought it was RIGHT. They thought it was convenient, thought it was 'all-right' because it was what they wanted to do, but they didn't think it was right.

And the failure of Israel, of the US, of Europe to be properly aghast by it is something I call indirect terrorism, I call it lies, I call it hyprocracy. I call it selective abhorrance of terrorism.

Frankly, I don't give a damn what anyone else calls it.

If such events can't teach the fanatics, the political and religious zealots a measure of self-doubt, it's because they're hypocrites, liars, and they are no different than their ancesters in spirit, except their ancestors, as least, were honest. They at least had the courage of honesty.


Comment by Rip Snorter - September 28, 2006, 1:24 pm
Actually, csfb, on second thought maybe I'm wrong about that.

I used to work with a nurse named Inga. German/American immigrant from the post-WWII years, but was a Hitler Youth during the 3rd Reich. Managed to marry a GI and come to the US after the war.

Inga believed, or claimed to believe, that Hitler only did what was necessary where Jews were concerned. She asserted the Jews had a strangle-hold on the German economy. Claimed to believe the Jews were destroying Germany before Hitler came along to save Der Vaderland.

Inga. Unapologetic for any of her past beliefs, even savoring them 35 years later, still believing it was okay in 1975. Good Christian lady. Went to church every Sunday. Lutheran Christian lady who thought, I almost have to admit, she was right and had always been right, along with her political mentor, her fallen hero.

About all Inga and I ever agreed about was Israel, and with her it was a mixed bag. She didn't like Arabs, either. She'd have agreed with Todd and Konane that we ought to exterminate all of them, the Arabs. But they'd have parted company over what to do next. What to do with the Jews.

ToddComment by Todd - September 28, 2006, 1:38 pm
HOW DARE YOU put words in my mouth that I advocate "exterminating Arabs". There could not be anything further from the truth, and your comment is DESPICABLE.

I used to enjoy reading whatever you wrote, but that was before you apparently lost your mind. You have become something that I do not wish to discuss, and I will not be participating in any more discussion with such a person.
konaneComment by konane - September 28, 2006, 2:19 pm
You will not put words in my mouth either, nor will you or anyone project onto me an attitude, mindset or intent that does not exist.

I've carefully qualified my personal blog comments to make them relevant to the subject of the entry, very clear and easily understood by anyone capable of reading.

The rest of my blog contains good articles which I feel offers new information and a different perspective than the one that's been spoon fed daily for mass consumption. Period.
justxploringComment by justxploring - September 28, 2006, 2:46 pm
Jack, some of your statements are ludricrous. For ex: "They didn't give up their homes and their land easily enough to suit us when we created the Zionist state of Israel."

The Palestinians left their homes willingly and were even told to do so by the Arab nations who planned on destroying Israel. I'm not a Zionist. In fact I hate the oppression of any people, but get your facts right. One statement in your comment below is:

"The Jews Have Done It" when referring to genocide and ethnic cleansing. When was that?

Jews only began to raise arms against their enemies as a last resort for self-preservation. Going back to Biblical times (if you believe the Old Testament) Jews were enslaved and, only when they were trying to escape, did God take vengeance upon their captors (ex: Moses & the Red Sea)

Jews have been expelled from over 80 countries. Anti-semitism isn't anything new, so to skip a few thousand years of persecution, this small group of peaceful people whose teachings are never to wage war, were butchered in Russia and exterminated in Germany, leaving less than one half of 1% of the entire world populated with any trace of the Jewish people. In fact, out of 6.6 billion people there are less than 13 million Jews on this Earth. Approx 1/2 live in the United States, about 2% of the U.S. Population, yet every day I hear someone, even my neighbors, blame this tiny group for all the world's woes including the economy and world peace.

I agree that the occupation of Palestine is very sad. I abhor the oppression of any people. But please read your history books. Every historical fact indicates that from the beginning of time the Jews welcomed every Arab nation to live in peace. But nations like Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Iraq and Jordan have publicly said the Jews have no right to even exist.

In Oct 1947, The Assembly of Palestine Jewry issued this appeal: "We will do everything in our power to maintain peace, and establish a cooperation gainful to both Jews and Arabs.. It is here and now, from Jerusalem itself, that a call must go out to the Arab nations to join forces with Jewry and the destined Jewish State and work shoulder to shoulder for our common good, for the peace and progress of sovereign equals."
In 1948 the Arab nations encouraged the Palestinians to leave even after the Jews told them to remain in their homes and become equal citizens in the new state. The Arab nations told them to leave because they planned on killing every Jew that breathed. In May of that year Israel's Proclamation of Independence stated: "In the midst of wanton aggression, we yet call upon the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve the ways of peace and play their part in the development of the State, on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its bodies and institutions. We extend our hand in peace and neighborliness to all the neighboring states and their peoples, and invite them to cooperate with the independent Jewish nation for the common good of all."

The Arab governments and the refugees themselves have always been unwilling to accept any plan that could be interpreted as fostering resettlement and alleviating the Palestinian problem if it means living with Jews as neighbors.

The Arab states do not wantto solve the refugee problem. They never did and never will. They have always used the Palestinians as pawns and don't care if they live or die. It is an excuse to wage war on Israel and to get sympathy from nations around the world. In fact, most Arab governments will not offer jobs to Palestinians or allow them housing or land. Back in the 1980s when there was a labor shortage, they recruited thousands of workers from other countries to fill the jobs and would not hire unemployed Palestinians. Saudi Arabia is one of those nations and openly refused to allow any Palestinian refugee shelter or work.

Do you know that a consistent effort has been made by Israel to get all Palestinian refugees into permanent housing? The refugees would not accept this, because of the terrorist groups who are bitter and hateful and will not agree to any peaceful resolution.

So when you say "minor inaccuracies" I guess they're a little more than misspellings.
Comment by Rip Snorter - September 29, 2006, 9:19 am
Todd, Konane and justxploring:

Thanks for the comments.

Comment by Dano44 - February 1, 2007, 10:41 pm
Doyce doy....doy......doy.....Doyce!!!!!!! What a god aweful Name. What kind of sick person names their kid Doyce. I think If I had that name I would probably become some kind of pathological liar too. Just like good old Doyce Purcell
Comment by Rip Snorter - February 2, 2007, 7:17 am
Thanks for the comment Dano 44.


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