What the founding fathers actually meant by the Second Amendment might surprise you

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Avatar konane -
#1
Acting as mediums for the Founding Fathers, eh?
Avatar LiLSpeedy -
#2
Everyone seem to have their own interpretation of what the second amendment means, especially the NRA...who's motivated by PROFIT and GREED ONLY.
Avatar jarasan -
#3
rawgarbage.pos.crap, lil*poopy STFU dimwit.
Avatar amber123 -
#4
NRA needs to be dismantled..Period!   Bunch of losers like jarash1t...
Avatar LiLSpeedy -
#5
JARASAN you should be tired of being a malcontent troll. You're getting close to maturity. Start acting your age instead of an azzhole.
Avatar jarasan -
#6
lil*poopy and amberjackoff two fuquing idiots that live off the backs of others, sad lazy bitches.
Avatar amber123 -
#7
Really Jarash1t?   and you know this how?

I work you dumbass. I know you're a dumbass but I didn't know how badly.
Avatar jarasan -
#8
I don't give a fuque, drinking whiskey and bong water and smoking weed is not work, you ignorant douchebag.
Avatar amber123 -
#9
Boy you are truly an effing MORON!!!

I smoke and drink after work you freak!!!

I could drink bleach and I would be 1 million times smarter than your pathetic ass!
Avatar jarasan -
#10
Go ahead and drink all the bleach you want, it might help disinfect your remaining 3 brain cells.
Avatar mikeintexas -
#11
The author of that piece, Saul Cornell, is a rabid gun control advocate who was paid over a half million dollars just for that one article from The Joyce Foundation, an organization that has assets of close to a billion dollars and contributes tens of millions of dollars each year to anti-gun lobbyists and groups.

I skimmed through the article, so I didn't read EVERY single word, but I wonder how is it that Cornell, a "Constitutional scholar and expert" failed to mention when comparing U.S. laws with those of European common law that none of those countries has a Constitution explicitly guaranteeing the right to keep and bear arms as we do? Plus, if you're going by original intent and the meaning of a word, the term “militia” is explicitly defined as “all able-bodied persons residing in the State except those exempted by law."

What did the Founding Fathers "mean" by the 2nd Amendment? What about what they wrote down in black and white? (and just a few quotes, there are at least ten times this many but I know *some* of the commenters in this thread will think my post as tl;dnr because their attention span and reading comprehension are both limited. They, and the rest of you know who I'm referring to)

In the Federalist Papers, James Madison clearly states the reason for citizens to bear arms is to counter an oppressive govt.

Noah Webster said this in 1787: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of troops, that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.”

Thomas Jefferson declared "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of guns."

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or prevent the PEOPLE of the United States, who are peaceable from keeping their OWN arms..." - Samuel Adams

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

And one more thing: Amturd wants the NRA to be banned. He's always accusing others of being Fascists, yet wanting to limit the right to assemble, stifling the right to free speech and prohibiting the right to keep and bear arms is the hallmark of Fascism, is it not?   He accused me of being a "Nazi Racist", yet he's definitely a Nazi and one of the biggest bigots in here.

Amturd needs to be tried for treason, given legal representation if he cannot afford it (and I'm sure he can't - and by his own admission, he can't even afford dentures) and then given every avenue for any appeal after his conviction and when those are exhausted, lined up against a wall and shot...along with the other treasonous scum that he pals around with in here.
Avatar amber123 -
#12
Jarash1t lost the argument. sucker!
Avatar amber123 -
#13
Look who showed up...the redneck loser...you and jarash1t are two peas in a pod....who's the top?

Dumb and dumber..
Avatar jarasan -
#14
amberjackoff the only argument are those three remaining brain cells in your vacant skull arguing over who gets the next bong hit or swig of night train.
Avatar jarasan -
#15
@mike, good quotes!
Avatar mikeintexas -
#16
A bigot, traitor, willingly ignorant and a homophobe. Want to declare any of your other character defects?

I'm sure your eyes glazed over when you saw it was a post from me, so you didn't read any of it. Too bad, I try my best to educate you useful idiots in here, but no matter how many books I buy you, you just chew the covers off 'em.
Avatar amber123 -
#17
Answer my question...fine I'll guess...I say jarash1t is the bottom    more of a bitch who takes it.....
Avatar mikeintexas -
#18
I dunno 'bout Jarasan, but I'm straight as a string, thanks all the same. I suspect he's hetero as well, but even if he WAS gay, we could be friends. Someone's sexual proclivities are none of my concern, unless they're a pervert or pedophile.   I don't have a problem with gay people, but I DO have a problem with leftists and prefer to not be around them.

That's why I don't like you. I think gay people are born that way, but you have to WANT to be a America-hating leftist.
Avatar LiLSpeedy -
#19
Amber you are wasting your time with these two misfits. JARASAN is a pervert and Mikey is the product of incest. One can't go any lower than these two bozos.
Avatar mikeintexas -
#20
And Sleezy is a bigot, just like Amturd. Both useful idiots. You were Hillary supporters, I rest my case.

I can't be lower than either of you two...you're whale crap at the bottom of the Marianas Trench.
Avatar eddessaknight -
#21
Having learned from abusive power central Monarchy, Ii's been a long recorded & repeated historical fact that the implicit intentions of Our founding fathers on Bill of Rights'10 amendments to the Constitution was to protect the citizenry form the Fed and not the other way around.

"Blessed Brooklyn's Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there" thanks ~Johnph77
Avatar amber123 -
#22
You're right Speedy...The logs in my toilet have more intelligence than those two retards...I actually feel sorry for them.
Avatar mikeintexas -
#23
The "logs in your toilet"? Like the logs chewed on by your wife's beaver?   I'm sure those logs could have fixed your keyboard or found a workaround a lot quicker than you did.

Not sure why Sleezy keeps telling me I'm the product of incest; that means something like my dad having sex with my grandmother, instead of how it actually went down, me having sex with his mother.

Don't bother them with facts, ed. The truth is something they're not familiar with.
Avatar amber123 -
#24
I mention Turds and look who shows up.
Avatar LiLSpeedy -
#25
Mikey if your momma had sex with her brother and you are the result of it, that's incest fool. Your uncle is your daddy. That's messed up, and you're messed up too. JARASAN is just a slimy pervert because his momma is a crack head.
Avatar jarasan -
#26
lil*poopy you are giving chimpanzees all over the world a bad name. You and amberjackoff are some funky monkeys.
Avatar LiLSpeedy -
#27
Go away malcontent, is that the best you can do? Ask your mammy for something to say, crack heads are funny, you're not pervert.

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