Amen, konane, we must Stop sugarcoating it. Stop calling them liberals, progressives or even socialists. This is exactly what communism looks like.

Thanks Eddessa. Peel all the layers off and you have the same system that's failed so many times in history. Cranking it up again won't make it work any better.

Nota Bene;

"When you see that trading is done not by consent, but by compulsion.

When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing.

When you see money flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors.

When you see that men get richer by graft and pull, than by work and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you.

When you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming self-sacrifice,

you may know that your society is doomed" - AYN RAND

Thanks Eddessa. Well stated. :)