All the vaccine misinformation is causing many hospitalizations and some deaths. At least 8 of the people condemning the vaccines died from corona virus and the son of Marcus Lamb said his father's death was “a spiritual attack from the enemy”. Not sure that I understand his logic on who he believes the enemy is, but the facts show Marcus Lamb not only didn't get vaccinated, but he also encouraged his followers not to get vaccinated.

Of the eight people listed below, Herman Cain died of Covid-19 before vaccines were available and he is probably on the list because he opposed wearing masks and stay at home orders.

https://newsone.com/playlist/famous-anti-vaxxers-who-have-died-from-covid-19/item/5

* Don’t you just love it when he says “ l came up with the vaccines.” I can’t see him hunched over doing test after test to get it just right, but l will let that one slide. Candace is something else, to hear her go off on the Covid deaths under Biden and compare it with 45’s is insanity. In her world, the vaccines are the real killer and l wonder what’s her opinion on ivermectin?

*Not sure if the rest of the world has as much pushback against getting vaccinated than those folk in the States. It’s almost like standing on the banks of a crocodile infested river, with a tiny rope bridge going across- the smart ones will look at that bridge and say “ it’s pretty narrow and it sways a lot, but l am going to walk it regardless.” On the other hand, you have those folk who look at the bridge and say “ Screw that, l am going to swim across.” That’s what we have with the vaccines vs ivermectin & the other crap out there being used to defeat Covid.

It's starting to look like the anti-vaxxers want to thin out the herd. Our resident misleading information teller doesn't even know the difference between doctors and an adverse event reporting system. And thinks people can call reports "liars".

According to the report over 20,000 people died after getting vaccinated. When asked how many died from direct vaccine causes, we're told FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Not saying the report is misleading, but without causes of death, the report is very incomplete.

The anti-vaxxers are using that report to convince their grandparents or elderly parents not to get vaccinated. Most of the anti-vaxxers (at least the ones here) are or were Trump supporters and now are saying Trump is full of it which I agree with as well as Trump's latest comments on getting vaccinated.

* Why don’t the anti vaxx folk make a list of the unvaccinated deaths due to COVID-19?

Grandpa Moderna told 1 million gumball lies according to CNN.
But this statement Grandpa Moderna made is GOSPEL TRUTH?
You need a list of vaccine deaths? Look at VAERS. 20,000 deaths official. 2 MILLION VACCINE DEATHS
according to a three year study by HHS and HARVARD if you TRUST THE SCIENCE.

Our hospitals are packed with anti vaxers. The daily death toll has gone up but the "smart" people won't get a shot. Its the trumpies who pass misinformation and it's ridiculous.

"Look at VAERS. 20,000 deaths official."

The FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.   Without knowing the causes of the "20,000 deaths official", it's just another misleading number. After vaccination there were 1500 Covid-19 deaths out of 166 million doses, but the vaccine didn't cause the deaths.

"2 MILLION VACCINE DEATHS according to a three year study"

That's what I mean about false and misleading statements. How could anyone do a "three-year study" of a vaccine created just a ONE YEAR AGO?

Now that the MAGA leader is encouraging getting vaccinated and getting booster shots, who are the anti-vaxxers trying to impress?

"Its the trumpies who pass misinformation and it's ridiculous."

That's from the time when they learned lying is fine as long as it doesn't contradict or is about people with an orange hue. Now that they turned on the "the great orange one" they are saying Trump is as full of it as the rest of the "swamp".

"Our hospitals are packed with anti vaxers."

Saw where podcaster Doug Kuzma is on a ventilator. Kentucky has 836,441 cases with 10,463 confirmed deaths out of a population of 4.5 million. Probably the first time in World History when a large portion of the population wanted to thin out their own herd.

My oldest daughter just got Covid. Woke up Friday morning muscle aches headache, body hurt all over. Took a rapid test that was positive. She was vaxxed, but didnt have the booster.
She's feeling a lot better this morning. My son (her brother) and I were exposed to her Thursday and so far so good for us. We're both vaxxed, me with booster.
Fingers crossed.

* Hoping the best for your loved ones and yourself Rcb. My take on this is : If you unvaccinated, fine, ok. But don’t tell others to not take the vaccine just because you didn’t. It’s unfair and selfish in my opinion. The other thing l cannot truly understand if : if an unvaccinated person or persons come down with the virus, what do they expect the hospital to do? Saying “ give me the shot” is to late.

*I have read of family members telling the hospitals to inject their sick loved ones with Ivermectin & other experimental drugs, drugs that are not approved for such use. What have we come to as a society? Supposedly intelligent people are getting their advice from folks on the internet, from people who never went to medical school or studied medicine- that’s the scary part.

"Fingers crossed."

From what I've read most of the healthy people are less likely to even be hospitalized if they were vaccinated. When my doctor asked if I had a booster and I said "not yet" he asked "what are you waiting for".

Hope she'll be feeling much better by New Years Eve!

"that’s the scary part."

People had allergic reactions after getting vaccinated and the CDC website addresses all of the reactions including the most dangerous to women under 50 with low platelets and have a risk of blood clots. The FDA told the CDC to record every death after getting vaccinated regardless of the cause of death. And anti-vaxxers are using the total number of deaths as a reason not to get vaccinated. The CDC list 9 women that died as a result of a reaction to the J&J vaccine and 1500 that died of Covid after getting vaccinated.

"What have we come to as a society?"

Lots of people are addicted to social media so much so the first thing they do when they wake up is checking Twitter, Facebook, favorite chat room, messages boards, etc. We see it here too. Almost 20 years ago I theorized the human mind isn't ready for all the technology available and that was before smart phones with Internet access almost everywhere. Terabytes of information on almost everything so why would anyone take any advice much medical from a stranger on the Internet?

Is it five minutes of fame, do they suffer from the "I'll pretend I'm smart syndrome", wanting to be part of something, anything even if they don't agree with it?

Will encouraging people not to get vaccinated and risk being very ill or die "make America great again"? Especially when the MAGA leader encourages getting vaccinated and booster shots.

Daughter is doing fine. Felt bad for one day.

Good!