Why Boris Johnson fell and Donald Trump remains the party's de facto leader

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Avatar noise-gate -
#1
* Boris did not have the same Kool-aid as Trump. The other thing is the Brits don't screw around. Take Winston Churchill as the " conversation writes"..

* The end of World War II in Europe and the defeat of Hitler and Nazi Germany in early May 1945 turned British Prime Minister Winston Churchill into the world’s most eminent statesman. He was feted and celebrated everywhere he went and had an approval rating of 83%.

* Yet he suffered a humiliating election defeat in 1945.

* Churchill’s electoral fate shows, I believe, that democratic elections are not won due to past achievements, personal glory and celebrity status, but because of a persuasive and realizable program for the next four or five years. Winning parties or candidates need a vision that addresses the genuine concerns and deep anxieties of the voters.

* Need a vision- Thats why 45 lost, no vision. The only thing that saved him was the delusional base, and there you have it.

* Oh, on Churchill..He was just short of his 71st birthday, exhausted, in ill health and demoralized. He fell into a deep depression (his “black dog,” as he called it) and spent much time in the south of France to pursue his hobbies of painting and bricklaying.

* Our fallen One could do the same: Deep sea fishing, watching the G kids, but no!
Avatar rdgrnr -
#2
Two distinctly different people.
President Trump will go down in history as one of the greatest Presidents of all time.
Boris will be a mere footnote in history, just another peckerhead.
Avatar noise-gate -
#3
* No he wont go down as the " one of the greatest" Presidents of all time.

* Were you not paying attention when..
* First let's start with 1 million people dead from Trumps mishandling of the COVID pandemic. You lead by example and not wearing a mask and telling everyone that it would go away when the weather warmed up was idiotic at best.
Trump telling everyone that the press is their enemy. A play right out of Hitler's playbook. Get the masses to only believe him because he's the only one that knows the truth. Believing Putin over his own intelligence agency and stating that in a public forum. Almost everyone that worked with Trump and has written books telling of his irrational and sometimes illegal way he wanted to handle things. Just the latest where his chief of staff Espers said Trump wanted to know why we couldn't fire missiles into Mexico to take out the cartels. Really? Fire missiles into a neighboring country?
I think his staff best sums things up by writing about the chaos and disorder of his administration. I almost forgot his actions that help try to destroy this country. Continuing the big lie that he won the election. All facts show otherwise. The 63 cases filed in court and 62 thrown out due to lack of evidence. Only one won on a procedural error that would have not changed the outcome.

* So No, not going to be remembered in history for good- but chaos he brought to this great nation. Throw your name in there as well since you lacked the vision to see the carnage that came about through your foolish vote. Can you imagine if Al Gore had said " All l want to 11,000 Chads showing l won." How would the right have reacted?
Avatar rdgrnr -
#4
You keep harping on the same nonsense.
When he said "find me 11,000 votes" he was talking about finding just 11,000 of the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of fraudulent votes that everybody knew were there and invalidating them. Are you that naive or do you just think nobody will notice your nonsense? You can't be THAT gullible, can you?
Avatar noise-gate -
#5
* Says you. The authorities in Georgia disagree with your take on what " find me means." 11,000 votes " means.
You do know that Mark Meadows whispered in 45's ear and told him that the Italians were using satellites to switch votes from Trump to Biden. Why are you a part of this BS?
Avatar grwurston -
#6
I'm having a hard time deciding which makes less sense, the article or NG's comments.
Avatar sully16 -
#7
****** hey Fredo

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