* It was bad an idea to invite him in the first place. The guy cannot & does not follow the rules & regulations. Remember when he was sworn into office? Sure you do, recall that he raised his right hand & out the other on the Bible, and in under 4 years, he defied the Constitution. That’s the Maga hero they keep telling us that he is going to make America great again.

Why was it bad?
That reporter tried the racist entrapment gotcha question.
Democrats sure like to create division in this country. Abortion and race is all the Dems got.

I got Trump on the TV right now.
TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP
Trump is attacking Kamala's radical vision for America.

Kamala must be into that fundamental transformation of America thing.
A great nation will fall into history if that fundamental transformation falls into place.

MAGA all the way. Go Trump/Vance.
Vote Trump/ Vance.
Make the vote to big to rig.

* It was a bad idea because he exposed himself for who he is. There are certain doors you do not open for fear of what lies behind. He couldn’t give a definitive answer on what he calls “ black jobs.” He never talks about “ white or zodiac jobs” why even bring that up?

* The Maga folk had no problem on Trump lying to the nation & hosts of the 1st debate, because there was not going to be any fact checking, so he came out on top- through lies. Don’t sound surprised when he got boxed in because this invite was not going to be a CNN kinda invite.

Zodiac jobs? I meant Asian jobs. These iPhone can mess you up.

* Trump is trying everything to slow her down- thing is- Harris is not Joe & the more they attack Harris, the more it puts women off. Vance is a pariah as far as women are concerned & Trump got a pass in 2016 by getting away with taking women for granted- well he has come full circle & 2024 is not 2016, as he & his supporters are finding out.

* Trump’s “ problem “ is that he was under the illusion that everything he put in place in his administration should stay in place with the following administration. Hello- if people wanted a repeat of his administration, they would have voted him in a 2nd term.

* My point on the Wall: Biden was supposed to complete it. Everything 45 put pen to should have stayed intact. That’s crazy thinking right there. If 45 wanted to set an example all “ future” administration should attack the Capitol if their guy loses, right ? Provide fake electors etc etc.

Different views on politics is what makes a toe to toe debate possible.
Trump stood his ground at that event.
Standing your ground shows who you are. And you show where you stand. You know where I stand.
Nether one of us is going to change the others mind .
So we will go back and forth on the issues until hell freezes over.

"* Trump’s “ problem “ is that he was under the illusion that everything he put in place in his administration should stay in place with the following administration. Hello- if people wanted a repeat of his administration, they would have voted him in a 2nd term."
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That is one of the biggest problems in this country. One party wants to tear down the others policy even though it may be good for the nation.

JAP69 Trump was a terrible president.   HE belongs in prison. If he wasn't rich he would be locked up  the   rest of his life.

Jap69 his own vo called him America's Hitler and political geroin.  Ronald Regan is rolling over in his grave.

His own vp called him political heroin.    Why the excitement?   I don't get it ?

Jap- it’s not the political party that takes over- it’s the voters that want change. If you want to put the blame on someone, blame the voters.

“ Standing your ground is okay, if you right.” Trump lies so much, that when he make a statement, he is scrutinized much more than others. I mean who actually believes they win the election when professionals at this game said he lost?
It’s similar to someone picking up a tennis racket for the 1st time & telling Nadal how to serve. In a similar way, 45 was doubting the folks who run elections because in his mind, he is more savvy than they are.

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noise-gate
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Jul 31, 2024, 10:04 pm
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The voters want change!!!!!!!!!! WHATTT
It is those elected with a stolen election that wants change.
Keep up with how elections are stolen.

* I am repeating myself here going backs years.

* Trump championed the cause for having free & fair elections because he considered himself that good, that voters of all stripes would flock to him. He appointed a cyber czar named Chris Krebs, he pulled the guy away from Microsoft where Krebs had done an outstanding job.
* Krebs got to work, pulled in homeland security, other professional agencies to monitor outside influence & told the nation that our election was the tightest it has been in years.

* When the results came in & Trump found out he lost” he fired Krebs.” There is no such thing as a sure thing in politics, but because 45 didn’t like the results, he pulled the trigger. He pulled the trigger on many in his cabinet over the years because he never ever thought that the cancer in his administration was him, but the voters told him in no uncertain terms, and what did he do: Rebel, against the voters.

* The same people that put him in the WH were viewed as incompetent & not savvy enough to realize that they were getting rid of a “ good thing.” That good thing go in all kinds of trouble: Georgia pulled the trigger on him by naming him the head of a criminal enterprise. He was charged with racketeering, so much for being a savvy guy. What is apparent, is that the voters saw through 45 & couldn’t risk him hanging around for another 4 years. They knew, obviously the Maga folks don’t see it that way- that’s a real pity.

Machines count votes.
A machine can be hacked while in the process of counting votes. Testing a machine after the fact which has been returned to its original programming obviously would show no fraud.
A machine that counts votes do not know which ones were filled out by mail in ballot fraudsters.
The last election was won by mail in ballots in swing states that were counted after the polls closed and after the in person voting was counted. How many more mail in ballots for Biden do we need to put Biden ahead?
You need to do a search for mail in ballot fraud.

Here you go noise. Educate yourself on mail in ballots.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/07/03/james-clyburn-visits-10-key-precincts-for-ballot-collection-in-three-wisconsin-cities-madison-milwaukee-beloit-and-no-one-notices/

Democrats can’t win on better ideas, they
have none, they have to cheat to have any chance of winning.

* Jap, everything you described has been looked at by “ professionals & experts” on elections & machines. IF hacking machines were so easy : Why did not a single firm come forward to present their finding in the FOX TV case in which they had to pay close to a billion dollars. Are you saying those folks were incompetent, that Fix hired fools?

* You and others are under the illusion that you guys know something others don’t. There has not been a SINGLE hand recount after the machines were challenged that resulted in Trump winning. Zero, none. If one recount showed that the machines were in fact faulty and Trump won on re count, then yeah- we have a situation, but…. None!

* Disappointment  is a hard pill to swallow, but to remain in the real world, swallow you must. The world at large knew Trump lost & no amount of recounts have changed that. In fact when the AZ Republicans enlisted a so called Cyber tech company to check & recheck, the CEO of that company pocketed a cool 1 million dollars & in their investigation, they found MORE votes for Joe. In a word: it was time to move the circus out of town.

* What ideas would that be? Building a wall, deporting people?

* How about the IDEA of having infrastructure that would benefit All
The States, including Red States? Did you know that Congress folks from Red States voted against the infrastructure bill, but when money started to flow to
their States, suddenly they were all for it. They even got called out on it.

* How about the idea of 45 getting rid of the Iran deal out together by our Allies, Trump said he could put together a better one & ripped the one in place- yet when he tried to get our Allies to sit down & rehash a new deal: The word from our Allies was” we did our best, you go it alone cause we got other things to attend to.” Trump wanted to replace Obamacare, yet he had no plan for 4 years, in fact enrollment increased while 45 was in the WH.

* Any other ideas you want to bring to the floor? Thought so…

noise-gate
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Jul 31, 2024, 11:53 pm
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Hand recounts!!!!
Sure they are counting ballots. The problem is are the ballots fraudulent? No one knows who made out the mail in ballots?
To cheat you do not need the voters, you need the ballots.

* Jap: All that “ stuff” has been covered in depth years ago. If there was a sliver of theft, it would have been exposed by now. It’s ridiculous to assume that Trump was going to win re election when he “ never led” in any poll leading up to Nov 2020, which is why 45 came up with his “ if we lose, they cheated.”

* As for those ballots: They were sent in the mail & they were sent with official ballot folders. What you forgetting is this: NO ONE knew how the outcome of those ballots would change the election. Had those ballots pushed Trump over the top, 45 & his supporters would have been dancing in the streets- but because they came up short, they crying foul. Maga supporters including 45 need to grow up & realize that nothing in life is a guarantee.

" They were sent in the mail & they were sent with official ballot folders."
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That is correct,
But  some were sent to addresses that were not a residence, sometimes multiple ballots sent to those addresses. Then there are cases where multiple ballots sent to the same residence. Then there were ballots swiped from mail delivery.
Then there is video proof of a person dropping multiple ballots at a drop point. Non citizens registering to vote to receive a mail in ballot which they actually do not receive personally. They do not need the voter, fraudsters need the ballot.

There are groups out there cleaning up dirty voter rolls.

Mail in ballots have turned into the biggest scam in American voting history.
It has also been shown that military vote by mail has been messed with.

If someone can not be in their district on voting day to vote in person they need to vote in person during early voting days.

* l know you trying to make a case for 45 & assuming that he won, which is just not true. Even Congress men & women on the Republican side have come out & said “ there were irregularities “ but cannot flat out claim that 45 won. Irregularities can mean just what you said “ addresses that were not residences” but the facts remain. Trump lost. I am ALL for fair elections, if 45 won the 2020 election- l say he deserves a 2nd term- but the evidence & multiple recounts & investigations have proven that Joe won.

* Why is it so difficult to believe that Trump lost? After all, he was new to politics, his behavior was atrocious, attacked folks of his own party, like McCain, Mitch- calling people names, suggesting weird ways to combat the virus, wanted to sell Puerto Rico off because he found it too costly after the hurricane, insulted our Allies & the list goes on & on. The guy may have been a breeze to the Oval Office, but he was not fresh.

* History tells us that leaders have been rejected by their people, why would 45 be any different? I repeat: Carter & Bush Snr were sent packing. Winston Churchill was defeated at the polls by the Brits & Churchill was at the helm in seeing Hitler defeated, the guy was a hero, yet he lost an election and went into deep depression. He couldn’t believe his own people would turn on him. So hey, say what you want, 45 lost & many more American Presidents will lose in the  future.

"but the evidence & multiple recounts & investigations have proven that Joe won."

I am making a case for honest elections.
The evidence and investigations were not allowed by Judges to be heard in court. No standing!!! WTH
I already went over the recount thing.

Jap69
Again with feeling. Trump whined and got his Maggie's to whine but he was the one cheating!!!! He had his cronies make fake electors, he called for 11,000 votes for Georgia then he started an insurrection.  For crying outlook  what part of that don't you understand. !!!!!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/boom-republican-sos-removes-hundreds-non-us-citizens/
Last week, at the direction of Secretary LaRose, the boards of elections removed nearly 155,000 registrations confirmed to be abandoned and inactive for at least four consecutive years.
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There you go.

lakerben
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Aug 1, 2024, 5:56 pm
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No proof Trump started an insurrection.