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Florida & Michigan Voters Disenfranchised


Last Edited: February 13, 2008, 2:50 pm

Please read this article that appeared in the news today.  This is what I've been saying all along.  The Florida legislature is run by Republicans and the Governor of Florida (formerly the Attorney General under Jeb Bush) is a conservative Republican.  They voted to push back the primary to January 29th knowing that the DNC would punish the voters.  I am trying to understand why WE lost our voice.


I want to ask a question and hope to get an honest answer.  How many people here have been influenced by a "campaign" in their state?  Has anyone here ever met a Presidential candidate in person?  Have you gone to a rally where a candidate spoke?  The voters in FL made their choice already and the Republicans took it away from us.  Obama called Florida "a beauty contest" which is an insult to all Floridians who wanted to be heard and went to the polls. That's why there was a record turnout.  Now if there are caucuses held in Florida and Michigan, I'm sure he'll be changing his tune.  The primary represented the majority of the people, a caucus will not.

Just a side note:  Keep in mind that many of the people who voted for Sen Clinton won't be in Florida by the summer.  The media keeps saying she attracts the "older voters" and many retirees go up north for a few months after May.  In some areas as many as half of the regestered voters live here for 6 months.

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Comment by scorpio - February 13, 2008, 3:08 pm
justxploringComment by justxploring - February 13, 2008, 3:46 pm
Yes, Scorpio. Many of Americans are being ignored. But in this case, it was planned.

Many people do not realize that nearly a million people voted for Hillary Clinton in Florida on Jan 29. I am trying to find the number, but I am almost certain that only around 150,000 people voted in total at the Iowa caucus. So how can 1/10 of the population count more? In ND about 18,000 people voted altogether for both Dem candidates. So obviously the number of states isn't as important as the general population. If you go back and read my comments on other member's blogs, you know I rarely side with conspiracy theories, but what else is this? Clinton got 300,000 more votes than Obama. That is more than several states, but I guess the popular vote doesn't matter again.

I realize that the superdelegates have a lot of power, but I just heard that John Kerry said he will vote for Obama regardless of what the people of Massachusetts wants. I don't like to spread rumors, so I will check this out.   To anyone who has a link to a news article (not just a blog) I would appreciate it.

Funny how Kerry and Kennedy couldn't convince the people of Massachusetts to see it their way.
jarasanComment by jarasan - February 13, 2008, 3:50 pm
When you don't fall into line with the old school Democratic party you are made to pay and become less signicant. They only want you when they need you.

I have a solution: Become an independent or republican, at least you'll be heard.

You see the Dems.' in charge true colors are beginning to show, they're exclusionary, racists, and arrogant beyond reproach. They are the party of divisiveness and ruthlessness.

It isn't too late to change, do it for the good of your country.
JAP69Comment by JAP69 - February 13, 2008, 7:01 pm
Back room politics at it finest.
TenajComment by Tenaj - February 13, 2008, 8:22 pm
You are so right jap69. You wouldn't think that Fla would get hit twice with this. I don't think the people should be punished for an error their elected officials made. Whether it was on purpose or not.
Where's the accountability.

Heads should be rolling on this. Fla and Mi residents should demand that their votes count and some heads should roll. They should get together by the thousands and march, rather than bitch about it on blogs.
ThinkComment by Think - February 13, 2008, 10:39 pm
Obama was on the ballot here in Michigan and took his name off. He might as well of said "Michigan is not worth taking time out of my schedule to even crap on".

But so what! Michigan is constantly sending more money to DC than it gets back. Since the statistics have been kept, Michigan has been getting back less than a dollar for every dollar it sends to the feds. Our own officials dont even care!

Dont be Stupid
Be a Smarty
Go ahead and vote
All Third Party
justxploringComment by justxploring - February 14, 2008, 3:21 am
Think, I wish a third party candidate would beat McCain.
(off topic - Think, everytime I see your name I start singing Aretha Franklin "You better think think think about what you're trying to do to me...Think think think, let your mind go, let yourself be free." "Freedom, Freedom Freedom, ooooh Freedom!!"
Tenaj, I like that word - accountability. This current administration has not been accountable for much and has fleeced the American people.
Divisiveness? Jarasan, if the Patriot Act was a way to unite people, I think I'll move to a small island in the South Pacific and live with pigs.
I hope everyone was able to use the link. It's a letter from the NAACP.
I have a copy of the letter but it is in .pdf format so here is the Associate Press article.

NAACP Head Wants Barred Delegates Seated

WASHINGTON — A prominent civil rights leader has told the Democratic National Committee that refusing to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan would disenfranchise both states' minority communities.

In a Feb. 8 letter to DNC Chairman Howard Dean, NAACP chairman Julian Bond expressed "great concern at the prospect that million of voters in Michigan and Florida could ultimately have their votes completely discounted." Refusing to seat the states' delegations could remind voters of the "sordid history of racially discriminatory primaries," he said.

The DNC penalized Michigan and Florida for moving their primaries to earlier dates in violation of party rules. Both states were stripped of their delegates, and the party's presidential candidates signed a pledge not to campaign in either state. Florida lost all 210 delegates, including its superdelegates; Michigan, 156.

Since then, facing the prospect of a drawn-out delegate battle with Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign has pushed hard for both states' delegations to be seated. Clinton won Florida's primary Jan. 29 and Michigan's Jan. 15, but was the only candidate to appear on the Michigan ballot after the other candidates removed their names.

In an interview, Bond said the NAACP had taken no position in the race between Clinton and Obama and would not endorse either candidate. He sent the letter on behalf of the voters in Michigan and especially Florida, where the Republican-controlled legislature and governor changed the state's primary date.

"It struck me as making the voters, including minority voters in Florida particularly, victims of the Republican legislature in Florida. I wanted to get Chairman Dean to find some way to rectify the situation," Bond said.

The DNC has said it would allow both states to hold a different contest, probably a caucus, that would comply with party rules. Either state can also appeal the penalty to the DNC credentials committee, which will not meet again until this summer.

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