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New Florida Law


Last Edited: April 9, 2008, 6:52 pm

What do you think of this? 


Today the Florida Senate approved the right of residents of the sunshine state to take guns to work. Of course, any bill like this will be caught up in election year politics.  Bills aren't the only issues that are impacted by an election.  Don't think for a minute that Terri Schiavo would have been taken off the feeding tube had it been 6 months earlier. 

Well, today I was traveling on the interstate and my fuel light came on.  I saw a Shell sign and took the Corkscrew exit and stopped at a red light, the key word here being red.   There's little doubt in what's left of my mind that a red arrow means stop.  (but tell me if I'm wrong)  As I sat at the light waiting patiently yet nervously for it to change, several drivers got very upset and honked at me.  At least 2 cars went around me and turned right.  One man was so infuriated that I refused to run the light, he made a certain gesture with his finger and then told me to do something..looked as if he was forming a word with the letter F.  (Hey, I've watched Sesame Street too.)  Finally, as I was about to give into the pressure, the red arrow turned to a bright shade of green and I was able to get onto Corkscrew Rd without breaking the law or getting a big fine..which I really don't need!   I breathed a deep sigh of relief. 

There's little doubt in my mind that, when people start carrying guns to work, someone will get shot for sitting at a traffic light.


This is a test.  I wasn't able to EDIT, but then I got on the home page and went back to my blog and now it shows the edit and delete links.  Since JAP69 already commented, I'll keep it as is and take the heat if I'm wrong.  I'm still going to call Lee County and ask.

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JAP69Comment by JAP69 - April 9, 2008, 6:29 pm
Check Florida driving rules for this.
A great many states have the rule stop on red and If all clear to do so make your right hand turn on red.
Right turn on red rule.
justxploringComment by justxploring - April 9, 2008, 6:45 pm
Thanks, Jap. Well, I just went to research it and I might end up embarrassed. I was going to edit this if I was wrong. I started out by talking about the new gun law and went off on a tangent to make a point.

I'll check because I was told the opposite. In MA we didn't have any right on red and then we had to pay lots of tax to put up signed that said "no right on red" on every street corner. Then I moved to FL where nobody can drive anyway.

This was not a solid red. I understand the right on red law, since I've lived here for a long time. I always turn on red. I was talking about a red arrow at a turn. Why would it be there at all? Usually when you get off of the highway, you turn at the light or just turn if there isn't one.   

justxploringComment by justxploring - April 9, 2008, 6:54 pm
Okay, in FL it says to stop and the proceed. I was misinformed. Now everyone can say "those women drivers!" LOL   See how paranoid I've gotten since my very costly ticket?
justxploringComment by justxploring - April 9, 2008, 7:06 pm
Let's just stick to the original topic, okay? :-)   What do you think about this new "take-your-guns-to-work" law?

I get very annoyed at snowbirds who don't turn at a red light. This was an arrow and where I've always lived that meant stop & wait for the green arrow. I've taken this exit lots of times since I moved to this area, and it never had any traffic signals at all. Of course one should stop anyway since you are getting off of the interstate. Nobody in his right mind would just drive onto a busy street from I-75 (I hope) Now I'll be more patient with others, although I rarely get enraged, but I do shake my head a little. I think I've also honked. I found the answer online. Oops! (blush) However, read the second paragraph. (Strange.)

What does the red arrow mean?
A red RIGHT arrow means that you must come to a complete stop at the marked stop line or before moving into the crosswalk or intersection. After stopping, you may turn RIGHT on the red arrow at most intersections if the way is clear. Some intersections display a "NO TURN ON RED" sign, which you must obey.

A LEFT turn on a red arrow from a one-way street onto a one-way street is also allowed unless a sign prohibits this turn. A red LEFT arrow is the same as a circular red indication. The motorist facing a steady red arrow signal shall not enter the intersection and shall stop at a clearly marked stop line. The motorist may only proceed when a green arrow indication is displayed.

konaneComment by konane - April 9, 2008, 7:48 pm
Think the law is great. If someone has passed extensive background checks including being fingerprinted and scrutinized it's perfectly fine with me. Irrational people fear permitted gun owners, not considering the real threat of armed robberies, carjackings, home invasions, etc., which would likely decline if more people were armed.
JAP69Comment by JAP69 - April 9, 2008, 8:52 pm
I agree with Konane.
When outlaws know it is in their favor they will commit crimes.
If outlaws have doubt they will think about what they are going to do.
Laws have turned around in favor of criminals today. To much in favor of protecting the criminals.
jarasanComment by jarasan - April 9, 2008, 10:00 pm
When we are out on the water, we always carry, never know when you are going to run into pirates. It may come to that on land, remember a good offense starts with a good defense or is it a good defense begins with a good offense, well you know what I mean. If anyone other than a police officer approaches your vehicle without identifying themselves and they possess a firearm in a threatening manner; escape or run them over.
justxploringComment by justxploring - April 9, 2008, 11:18 pm
Florida law allows a person to shoot & then ask questions later if he feels his life is in danger or someone is threatening his property. There are plenty of people who look at someone who is dressed differently or has a different color skin and automatically feels threatened.

Are you saying that we are going back to the days of the Wild West? Why is it that the United States has so much more gun violence than any other country?
LANTERNComment by LANTERN - April 9, 2008, 11:58 pm
Carry a gun to work?
Not a good idea, unless you work at a very dangerous place and or have to go thru a dangerous place to get to work.
justxploringComment by justxploring - April 10, 2008, 12:09 am
Also with all the auto thefts, look at how many more guns will be stolen if people start driving around with guns in their cars! I mean, I won't leave my GPS in the car. I keep reading that thieves always look for signs of cameras, cell phones, GPS, etc. in a car. So where do you hide your gun? In the glove compartment where you keep your sunglasses & your flashlight? "Mom, can I borrow the car?"   "Sure, honey. Just don't touch the guns, okay?"
konaneComment by konane - April 11, 2008, 11:06 am
Seriously doubt a permitted carrier would risk taking a firearm to work if parking is at risk. Also likely those people MAY be permitted to carry concealed anyway, which my understanding requires additional legal scrutiny before issuing.

My concern is being shot by addicts du jour, gangbangers, home invaders, young hoods who wanna be cool, brazen daytime person or store robbers, bank robbers, car jackers, road rage. In the Atlanta metro area there has been a dramatic increase in the incidence of all above, none of which are found to be perpetrated by permitted carriers when and if they're captured.

There also have been local incidences of perps being shot by a homeowner or automobile owner in fear of their life allowing someone to protect life and home the way it used to be. Sometimes used to be works best because "new-think of let them have what they want and can take" only served to created a criminal mindset through lack of boundaries and respect for property ownership.
Comment by MeFirstYouLast - May 29, 2008, 12:09 pm
Actually, the law in Florida requires you to feel your life is in emminant danger; just as many other state do. With a concealed carry license, you are not allowed to do any of the old west action, such as, brandishing a weapon, walking around making the outline of the weapon visible in normal circumstances, or trying to be a vigilante.
Never, in any states with CCW (46)has a person with a CCW been found to be engaged in OK Corral activities. It just doesn't happen. The license costs too much, and the FBI background check is too much of a pain in the rear.
Show me druggie or criminal who cares about living within society, following its laws and rules, and I'll give serious consideration to taking off my should holster and removing the .40 cal Sig P229 in it.
The anti-gun attitude is a result of the upper East Coast mentality. They pound and pound every one with anti-gun propaganda every day. People believe what they hear for years after years. Pretty soon, it becomes fact. Thefts of firearms are extremely rare, mainly because they don't lay on table tops or on dash boards. More children are killed in swimming pools, but no one cares, you don't see the fear of a pool on the news every day. More people are killed in cars, no one is willing to give up their car!
If the Government walked up to you today and took you car away, and forbid you from ever getting into one ever again. How would you react? You have zero grounds to complain. None. Nadda. The 2nd Amemenment IS part of the Constitution for a reason. It was placed, right after the freedom of speech right for a reason. The is nothing in the Constituion proecting the right to drive a car - or own a house. Those will be easy to take away. Would you feel the same about loosing those right? No more cars and we would be safer then no more guns! Hundreds of ways better off.

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