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how far have we fallen with televsion and music since the 50's?
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since the 50's up until the 2000's i think music and television shape a big part in kids thinking growing up.all throughout this city i live in you see kids wearing tacky stuff and saying the things they say because of what they are influenced by in music and television.when people imitate trash they become trashy.like someone said it might drive up ratings for advertisers but at the cost of gullible kids being influenced by questionable subject matter and repeating the things they see or hear thinking its cool.i might've had long hair from being influenced by hard rock music back in the 80's but i'd hate to have been growing up these days influenced by all this gang stuff infesting the airwaves.
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Look at the old series Combat vs today's The Unit. Combat was about an infantry squad in Europe in WW II, and the story line stuck to that.
The Unit is about SF soldiers but has to throw in the home front and a soap opera element to appeal to the females.
And rap indeed is not music. It's just noise.
And what you are talking about, lottomike relates to what I was trying to say in Justx's blog about the media. I usually don't watch the news, because I find it too disturbing. But my hubby has a bad habit of doing it while I'm in the room anyway. Six cheerleaders beat up one little girl for supposedly making a bad comment on their blog. They recorded the whole thing hoping it would become a viral video. The girl they beat up on lost her hearing in one ear and is going blind in the other. This was done in the name of sensationalism for today's punks. These girls actually thought this was okay. They almost killed her and left her for dead. It made me just want to be violent to them. I want to hurt them still., in part because it struck a nerve with me, being a mother. And this kid's mom and dad were doing nothing about it. And I know what it is like to be left helpless.
I know it isn't fair to blame all of this on tv and the media... but they did play their part in this. The parents should have raised them better. And the local government should make them examples (which I don't think will happen because the sheriff has already gotten a gag order to not talk to the media, but I am hoping for it.) These girls wanted publicity and now that they're getting it, they are trying to shut it up. Can you believe they thought this would be okay? They thought this would make them look cool? The news story I am talking about can be found on CNN or watch the videos and local news broadcasts on youtube.com by searching "six cheerleaders."
That's where they are and how they see the world. It belongs to them. Main stream adopted it and even the Pillsbury dough boy dances to it.
It says, this is what you are doing but is dishonest about it and hide it. It says I got woman, money, and great sex. It says, I feel good about myself and go to hell because you are a fake. I give it great respect. (not always have - because I didn't understand) Everything you hate about it is their response to the world.
Maybe when the world comes to respecting woman, and woman respecting themselves, the heads start making honest money, and there's a place for everyone regardless of their ethnic background and the youth can feel like they are getting a fair shake they will start singing and dancing differently. Like I said music and art is the reflection of the society.
I was recently talking to a friend about this and she doesn't want her son to listen to hip-hop, but he's 18 and in college. She believes it has taken everything she fought for and set back the clock 30 years.
Anyway, to clear up what I was saying...I don't think all rap is bad. I just think some of the "gangsta" style is giving kids the wrong messages. Remember the contest that a member (DucksAFloat I think) asked us to vote for? Those were rap songs. It can be a poetic way of expressing yourself, but I wouldn't call it music, but that's just my opinion. A gang member who was in prison was on Fox (I can't believe I'm actually quoting Fox news) Anyway, he was a member of a gang called the Bloods and goes around saying things like "...when you're saying something that encourages thousands of people to go out and kill people and have a negative input, that's wrong. I realize that it's business, but still and all, you have this music that's encouraging people to be gangsters. And I am a real gangster. I mean, you know, I've been to prison. I've been shot."
@lottomike, yeah it had a good beginning but didn't evolve, it went the way of the devo. Everybody wanted in; Eminem as an eg. it became about the word, message etc.. not the music.
We were throwing food and chairs in the caferteria from school integration so we can go home early and high fived on the bus cause we pulled it off. It's a different world. Get a clue. Music is the reflection of the society. And Jarasan, yes I felt the say way you did about Hip Hop until I learned to dance it and it ain't nothing rudimentary about it.
Both my kids grew up with Hip Hop and Rap but they also listened to Gospel, Funk, Blues, Disco, Jazz and R and B, Motown Love Ballads, and musicals. Both were straight A honor students, student council, cheerleaders, letter girl and won many awards and accolades and they heard the gansta rap and watched HBO and Cinemax.
My grandson is into Hip Hop and can dance like a pro to it but I introduced to him Jazz, Blues, Disco, and old school, Funk, and Motown. He requests Eddie Harris. I also introduced him to the white musicians that deserve merit like wild cherry, elton john, the eagles, and edgar winters from back in the day to teach him about music so he wouldn't be ignorant to what he was listening to.
He's a straight A student just like his momma was. He goes to church every sunday, knows love, knows how to give it and love and respect everyone.
So ya'll need to get a clue and stop being so ignorant. Oh yes, I like swing, classical, know all the lyrics to the musicals and can appreciate music and I like so country too.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_3_how_hip_hop.html
(good article)
I enjoyed watching Kayne West perform at the Grammy Awards and was touched by the song he wrong for his mother. There is good and bad in everything.
Also, you obviously raised your kids right. Many parents don't and they just know what they hear from the popular songs that are played all the time. That goes for both White & Black families. Same with TV and the movies. The influence of a good parent is very important. My sister also let her children listen to anything they wanted, including hip-hop, and both graduated college with honors.
Justx, you would have to understand the community before you can understand the music and that's just a small part of the big picture. That's what I call ignorance to say something about something you don't know about.
These kids see these "artists" as heroes and become wannabes, but no one tells them that without connections they aren't getting anywhere, just like with a lot of other things.
I may not understand the "music" (it''s NOT music, it's anger put to a voo doo beat) but I do understand that for all the wonderful things being claimed about it here that the people who play it assume that the rest of the world wants to hear it, too and that's hardly the case.
I'm hoping someone invents "RAP ZAP", kind of like a remote control, and when you're sitting in traffic and some cretan is blasting their "sound system", you just take out your RAP ZAP, point it at their car, and it takes their sound system down to .00001 decibel.
(Hopefully it would render cell phones in autos useless, too).
If it represents society, then that is exactly what Mike said. It is a mess. It is a subculture that should be illegal. I am for freedom of speech just so far.
I don't think it's just a Black or White thing anyway, I once read that the majority of teens who buy rap are White, but I can't confirm that statement. After all, 2 big rappers were Emimen and Vanilla Ice. The latter was just released from jail in FL again.
I don't want to misquote anything, so I'll cut & paste something from Julian Bond I heard last year. "We don't believe it's a violation of the First Amendment to say to somebody you ought not to talk that way, you ought not denigrate women, you ought not condemn people because of the color of their skin. I heard somebody say that when Jay-Z talks about ho's, he gets a gold record. When Don Imus talks about ho's, he gets fired. We believe in equal justice and equal justice for everyone."
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