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Buses tackling high gas Price and Global Warming: 25 cents Busfare in Every City

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Last Edited: May 11, 2008, 11:05 pm

Buses Combating Global Warning: You know in my city of Columbus, Georgia there are buses but they run every hour and they cost 1 dollar...And my question is how much does it cost that bus terminal (piquera)? How much does one of those buses cost? 100,000 dollars? And i thought...How much does that entire bus terminal makes in 1 year? i say 4 to 5 million a year...And i thought...Again just to show you the power of 5% earned interest....And i thought....Why doesn't the city gets 100 million dollars, place it in the bank and let 5 million from the 5% earned interest that you are going to get EACH DAMN YEAR fromo those 100 million dollars, and let it pay the first year for 50 of those buses if they cost 100,000 dollars...And then the second year they get 50 more and this way they will have buses running every 10 minutes and they can give themselves the luxury of  reducing the busfare from 1 dollar to 50 cents, now that the gas prices are expensive...And gas is only projected to go up, to something like 7 dollars a gallon....And what do they do with the 50 cents fare? they use it to pay the drivers of those buses or for bus maintenance or gas....

How do you get those 100 million...Remember when i said that allowing people to put money to eventually make a king to speak for the rest of us....Why not get 20,000 people and let each of them pledge 500 dollars a month (they are not investors they are only people that want to see a change in their city/country) and get those 20,000 people let each of them pledge to donate 500 a month for 10 months....and 20,000 x 500 = 10 Million dollars, now multiply that by 10 months and it equals 100 million dollars...The problem with all this is the taxes...But i am just giving you an idea where you can elaborate and take it a step further...And those 20,000 people will not have to donate 500 dollars ever again in their life...This way the city will have buses every 10 minutes or every 15 minutes...This way reducing how much gas people all in general consume reducing people how much they have to pay for gas and reducing the carbon footprint....And now repeat this scenario in every big city in America...And if you can get yourself 200 million instead of 100 million the bus fare can cost 25 cents...LOL...

I know that banks only give you 5% for 5 years, but knowing the city/U.S, the city/U.S can work itself around it, they can figure it out....

And what if my city instead of waiting 2 years and buying 100 busses, it waits a third year and buys itself 150 fleet of busses...Wouldn't that be wonderful....I hope you get the point i am just giving you an idea where you can elaborate and take it a step further...And the good thing is that the bus terminal is basically running itself it doesn't need the help of the city to run it...

Can you imagine bus fare costing 25 cents to ride around the city? With enough effort the bus fare can and could cost 10 cents perhaps free....

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Comments

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four4meComment by four4me - May 12, 2008, 11:44 am
Buses can cost up wards of 300,000.00 dollars a piece in a large states that might have 500 or more buses thats a huge sum of money not to include all the operating costs.

Most US city's have deals for people who use public transportation. A monthly pass A daily pass. senior citizens pass, disability passes etc.



http://www.hybridcenter.org/hybrid-transit-buses.html
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 4:39 pm
That's impossible..how can those buses cost 300,000 what are they made of of gold? That's too expensive...

also better than articulated buses is a bus that has two floors one on top and another on the bottom..those articulated busses are too long...
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 4:43 pm
And city buses don't even do long routes...So i don't know what they are talking about...
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 4:45 pm
they don't know what is long routes, and they don't even go high speeds..so i don't know what they are talking about...
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 5:58 pm
When i say that they don't go long routes i mean they don't go long distances like they do here in Panama...
Also i believe that if you was to take out the 120 miles/per hour speed out of busses that are driving on the big city, and leave them with 60-65 miles per hours which is what they should be doing you will reduce their cost, why? because they are putting so much horse power and speed into them and they are not even using them....And they should leave it at 60-65 miles per hours because there is going to be so many of them...
And this is not just a case for the U.S.A is for France, England, Russia, Indonesia, everywhere...In a big city how many buses they are? perhaps 250, and how many cars they are driving at one time in a city? 50,000 100,000? That's what i am saying if we can get people do ride buses and not buy so many cars, or ride their cars on the weekend and take the bus on weekdays when they are going to work, the streets will have been better off...look at NY York city is littered with taxi cabs, wouldn't it be better if they was lots of busses and the bus fare been 25 cents or free....Even though
Around the world the problem is and is going to be not only higher gas prices, and pollution but CONGESTION...IS GOING TO BE EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD...It is going to be CONGESTION...You know you can only build so many roads in on city, until you begin to expand to the suburbs and country side but how many countries got that luxury...Which is another factor you should have in mind...Again the problem is going to be congestion...
Plus since there is going to be buses passing every 10 minutes you can give yourself the luxury of hiring bus LOTS of bus drivers to ride 3 round/cycles in one day and paying him very little instead of hiring 1 driver to drive 8 times in 1 day...This is more important than having a cosco/costco in a city, yet each person that works in costco gets paid 9 to 11 dollars an hour...
Again the problem worldwide is going to be congestion, too many cars on the road, Unless you live in Russia...Look at Japan 127 Million people and look at the side of that Island...Can you imagine 50 million people in Japan having 1 or 2 cars...Plus not counting the cabs/taxis....Look at Indonesia and look at the size of that country...It has 231 million people, where are they going to fit all...The United Kingdom only has so much land...The Phillipines has 90 million people and look at the size of that island, look at Bangladesh...Puerto rico, Cuba, Jamaica are next, perhaps not now but couple of decades from now...Population is only going to go up, i wander if car dealers are considering this fact...
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 6:01 pm
The car industry, nor carmaker yet, has a semi-supercomputer or supercomputer to calculate the amount of cars sold each year and on the road and checking them against land size and in constrast to population size, you know to measure congestion....No carmaker yet has done that...They only produce cars without thinking of the consequences...
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 6:33 pm
plus riding in a bus is safer than driving a car...
And what if you take another team of 20,000 people let them each pay 500 a month (for 1 city), and let them pay that for 10 months...Then the 100 million dollars (again if a bus cost 100,000 dollars) (talking outside the U.S.A here) then they can take those 100 million dollars and buy 1,000 buses...So a big city will have 1,000 buses all to drive around the city...And then the first team of 20,000 people will take the other 100 million dollars and place it in the bank and the 5 million from earned interest can go to run the bus terminal, or maintenance, or whatever...
again the power of 5%, plus the power of making a king through a pyramid to speak for the rest of us....LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL..LOL...LOL...
At least i am trying...

again we all suffer just because 1 or 2 person want to make a buck...Always the same scenario....
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 6:35 pm
plus the bus fare is 25 cents to tackle the maintenace problem...How about 15 cents....LOL....LOL....LOL....
Again i am not talking only the U.S.A...
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 7:28 pm
plus for free the bus fare for disabled people: http://www.buscrazy.net/vehicles.htm (i wonder how much they cost)....I heard that some very good ones but i think they are used can cost 35,000 dollars...Here in Panama all we will need is 3 or 4 buses of those for people in wheel chair and that the bus driver drive with a phone...The person in wheel chair just calls the bus driver wherever he is and ask to pick them up at whatever time....This is also another idea where you can elaborate and take it a step further...
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JAP69Comment by JAP69 - May 12, 2008, 10:25 pm
The cost of running a bus service by a city cost more than the revenue they take in.
Buses are primarily used by riders who do not have transportation of their own or have limited parking downtown.
It irratates me when I see a bus go by with only one or two passengers on board. Big time losing deal.
The cost of bus service is subsidized by taxpayers.
Bus fares should be increased not reduced. Or the size of the buses should be smaller when a small passenger load is known to happen at certain times of the day.
Big 60 passenger bus with only two riders. Grumble,grumble.
Then you have bus riders who may be on longer routes paying a small sum for a long ride.
Complete waste of money.
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 11:22 pm
yeah you are right...
i disagree on the bus fare though...If the bus fare was increase more people will be inclined to drive and what happens if more and more people drive their cars and adds to the 50,000 or 100,000 cars or whatever number driving on the city...City gets congested, more polution...
Could you imagine if every teenager in school got their cars..
Take the example of China, 1 Billion people (well they have the land) but 1 billion people all driving in cars, and more with the advent of the "NANO" car that can cost up to 2,500 dollars...That's why i said that the "Nano" was a great invention for a continent like Africa, China and India but if it only was "smog free" and is not...
The U.S has the land for it, but the problem is that those cars continue to smoke, smog into the air....And the U.S.A doesn't wants to import the car that runs on compressed air...SO..
i agree on the riders on longer routes paying small sum for a long ride, but i believe is better if you leave it at one simple fair...
what i think is a complete waste of money is not allowing the car that runs on compressed air in the U.S yet allowing those hybrids in like they are going to make an impact, when clearly the DAMN population of the U.S is not 33 million like canada but 300 million....
Experiment: Take a major city and announce that the bus fare is going to be 10 cents (LOL) or make it worse announce that the bus fare is going to be free and that is going to pass every 3 minutes and see what happens with this projected 7 dollar a galon in a couple of years, (i don't know but something tells me that eventually in the next 20 or 30 years you will end up paying 8 dollars per gallon...LOL...AND YOU ARE NOT NECESARILY GOING TO GET AN INCREASE IN JOB SALARY...

The reason why i don't take buses in the U.S is because not EVERY CORNER doesn't have a bus stop, because they pass every HOUR, and not every 3 minutes, and because they cost 1 dollar and not 10 cents or 25 cents like they should and because they don't go everywhere like they should....If it was like Panama, i will have preffer a bus over a car...The bus fare here in Panama is projected to increase...Panama is only 3 million people and not 238 million...

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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 11:23 pm
and i am projecting for the next 60, 100 years...not for the next 3 or 4 years....
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 11:28 pm
what i see in the future is people either through a pyramid to create a king if the oil prices continue to go up, they are going to pull to get themselves their own private transportation, and by that i mean their own private bus to take them everywhere...
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 11:29 pm
i meant to say: "they are going to pool".....
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 12, 2008, 11:42 pm
Gas/oil/petroleum is only going to go up, not down....LOL...
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 13, 2008, 2:47 am
What they don't realize is that if oil prices end up been 10 dollars a galon, then the economy will not be working to its full potential because oil means work and work means the economy...
America ought to have a system of buses, by that i mean have the buses ready as a mass transportation and really cheap just if in case of a catasthrophy or oil ends up going to the roof, and what's better than the 5% earned interest...But are they thinking about this? i wonder...
if a catasthrophy happens, they will have to have the buses ready, or they will have to import that "air compressed car" whether it meets government standards or not....Are they thinking about this? have they started buying huge amount of that air compressed cars....Have they invested in the hydrogen car? Why is BMW alone and a handful of car companies investing in the hydrogen car...Why is the U.S government not investing fully on this...
Oil/gas/petroleum can disrupt the U.S economy, and British economy, and all of them....I understand the U.S having some though car standards on the cars that make it to america and that's because there is lots of land in america to drive really fast...HOwever is not the same case in England...So why is England not interested in the Air compressed car from Tata company, i mean since they have little cars and please don't tell me that England also have though standards for the cars, because you CAN NOT GO FAST IN ENGLAND, there is not much road to do so....Same thing with France....So why aren't they started taken the first step to import that air compressed car from Tata?
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Comment by pumpi76 - May 13, 2008, 3:37 pm
But you know why the U.S doesn't want to import air compressed cars, because is of pride, is too proud to say that they drive such cars, yet they forget the 1920 and such cars..Yet it doesn't want to look at its high crime rate, discrimination and how minorities get paid less...A lot of this stuff i don't have to say them i just can keep them to myself...

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